[Killed by Death]

Turn 2 causing lots of trouble at Indy this year.

[3798j]

it's the car...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Seems to me RB always starts the weekend with Max's car on a knifes edge, virtually out of control. Then slowly back it down to his liking. Max will be fine by qualifying and the race.

Even if Charlie could snatch poll I don't think Ferrari have the long run pace or top speed to hold Max off. That Ferrari engine just doesn't seem to have enough ponies.

That's right and I see what you mean .
But we haven't seen it yet , how MAX was drifting through the turns and ran over the grass .

IMHO , I think this time it will be otherwise

BTW : Ferrari looked very planted and fast , also in the long runs .

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's right and I see what you mean .
But we haven't seen it yet , how MAX was drifting through the turns and ran over the grass .

IMHO , I think this time it will be otherwise

BTW : Ferrari looked very planted and fast , also in the long runs .

It also looks much more like a Red Bull now

If you can't beat them join them

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by 3798j

it's the car...

I hope so

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Let's agree to disagree: Verstappen has deservedly won the 2021 WDC, including the 2021 Abu Dhabi race.

A couple of 2021 F1 stats about Verstappen:

• most championship points
• most victories
• most podiums
• most pole positions
• most laps in the lead
• most 'fastest lap of the race'
• either P1 or P2 in every 2021 race, except:
  • Hungary: P9 (crash caused by Bottas/Mercedes in lap 1/70)
  • Azerbaijan: DNF (blown tire | P1 in lap 46/51 | had fastest lap but got no point for it because of DNF)
  • Silverstone: DNF (crash with Hamilton/Mercedes | P1 in lap 1/52)
  • Monza: DNF (crash with Hamilton/Mercedes | P8 in lap 26/53 | had fastest lap but got no point for it because of DNF)

Ahead of the 2021 Abu Dhabi race, in response to concerns, race director Michael Masi himself warned that Verstappen or Hamilton could be subject to further sanctions from the FIA if one of them decided to manufacture a deliberate race-ending collision in an attempt to engineer a favourable championship result, up to and including championship disqualification or future race bans:

• "FIA issues points deduction warning ahead of F1 title decider"
  https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f...title-decider/
• "Tensions rise between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen before F1 decider"
  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ore-f1-decider

That same race director - condemning prior to the race any attempt to engineer a favourable championship result - took a decision during the final stage of the 2021 Abu Dhabi race. It wasn't Verstappen who has taken that race decision (just like Verstappen hasn't taken the "No further action" decision when Hamilton gained a track position and exit speed advantage by cutting the Turn 9 hairpin during the first lap of the race).

Despite its excellent skills and vast experience, Mercedes decided not to pit Hamilton for soft tires during the safety car stage resulting from the Latifi crash. And additionally, despite his excellent skills and vast experience, Hamilton misjudged Verstappen during the notorious final lap: race leader Hamilton, fully aware that he was tailgated by Verstappen in the final lap, left a considerably big gap on his left side upon Turn 5 approach: Hamilton must have assumed that Verstappen had planned an overtake attempt at a later turn. But Verstappen struck straightaway: he went for the gap and outsmarted his 7xWDC main rival in Turn 5 in a proper, WDC title worthy, way. Hamilton's Turn 5 exit speed was compromised. The end.

Mercedes appealed the 2021 Abu Dhabi final lap race decision. FIA dismissed the appeal. Mercedes has rest its case. Hamilton has rest his case.

It's your choice to allow Verstappen and/or Masi to keep on living rent free in your head because of the 2021 Abu Dhabi race. The 2021 F1 season consisted of 22 races and 3 Sprint events. It's 2024 now, about time to move on, Marcoose.

By the way, two more words defining the 2021 F1 season:

Silverstone Heist.

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We know Ham meant to do damage to Max at Silverstone and we know Bot crashing into Max in Hungary was intentional since he received "order 66" just before that on the radio from Toto. It was odd timing because just before those two Toto said to the media all they needed was a couple of DNFs - and oddly enough, we have what likely was crashgate 2. Either way, Max had a better season that year in what was a slower car. He handled the pressure when it counted the most and Ham didn't.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I hope so

McLaren !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Checo ...

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

McLaren !!!

Max on the medium tire whereas all the others on soft. His race runs were looking very fast with high fuel load and engine yet to be turned up fully.

[3798j]

Qualifying should be exciting...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Max on the medium tire whereas all the others on soft. His race runs were looking very fast with high fuel load and engine yet to be turned up fully.

Yeah . Hopefully , we'll see it in 50 in the Qualifying.

[GuidoK]

I wonder what'll become of qualifying with Max.
He clearly wasn't in his zone with the free practices.
I wonder if the RB upgrades are really upgrades or more like AMR 'upgrades'

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . Hopefully , we'll see it in 50 in the Qualifying.

Back.. and uh oh it's a slow b/post.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I wonder what'll become of qualifying with Max.
He clearly wasn't in his zone with the free practices.
I wonder if the RB upgrades are really upgrades or more like AMR 'upgrades'

I'm afraid , the RB20 upgrades really s@ck !

A 1.5 sec. gap to the McLarens , we haven't seen that yet in this season ..

=> https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=157

#DriftingThroughTheTurns

And Checo ended up in the wall , so Red Bull had some work to do...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Back.. and uh oh it's a slow b/post.

Works normal over here ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Works normal over here ...

Same here now, its just when I powered up it was slow.
MAX may have found the set up answer out of the dozens he is trying hopefully it can take care of the Larens.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Back.. and uh oh it's a slow b/post.

ALO mows the Imola lawn

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Same here now, its just when I powered up it was slow.
MAX may have found the set up answer out of the dozens he is trying hopefully it can take care of the Larens.

Ferrari runs with mediums ..

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

ALO mows the Imola lawn

He can come and mow mine if he likes, there's plenty of it heheh

[Fliplegend]

HUL in P3 in Q1 and ALO last.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Same here now, its just when I powered up it was slow.
MAX may have found the set up answer out of the dozens he is trying hopefully it can take care of the Larens.

Looks like MAX is (suddenly)! back , P1 in Q1 !

[F32Fleet]

Alonso lose his confidence in Q3?