Lakers!!!!

Game · 12-06-2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

Won't happen...Pringles hate Jordan Hill. He played Earl Clark before Hill.

Still have no idea what that's about. It was like when Brown refused to play Jodie. Hopefully he'll open his eyes and see what Hill is bringing us.

ChineseGuy · 12-06-2012, 01:38 AM

Pringles is ALMOST Mike Brown level.

His rotations are weird. There's no defensive system at all. He's too stubborn to make any adjustments. His philosophy is simply wrong.

Inspired · 12-07-2012, 04:38 PM

Gasol might be traded

sensi09 · 12-07-2012, 04:42 PM

I hope he doesn't get traded. Just give him some post touches. Even when howard is on the bench, gasol is still hanging out on the perimeter....doesn't make sense.

Inspired · 12-07-2012, 04:46 PM

Gasol needs to be traded. He hasnt been scoring or rebounding like the previous years

Chris_506 · 12-07-2012, 04:53 PM

sorry to burst your bubble guys but..

the Memphis Grizzlies are taking it all this year

...now

sensi09 · 12-07-2012, 05:01 PM

The rumors with toronto are interesting, but I'd still rather have gasol.

He's been injured and takes a bunch of jumpshots in this offense. Just this summer, he was a dominant player even against the US team when he plays closer to the basket.

He's had a shooting slump and he takes less shots, but I'd expect his shooting % to increase. Even when he doesn't score much, he makes for a good facilitator in this offense. It's interesting to note, that when bickerstaff was the coach, gasol had some good numbers. Dantoni just needs to find a way to utilize him.

Also, nash and dantoni never had a stretch 4 during their time in phoenix other than kurt thomas for a brief period. So they don't need it to win.

Here's an interesting link on gasol http://www.sbnation.com/2012/12/5/37...ht-howard-hook

ChineseGuy · 12-07-2012, 08:00 PM

Here's my take on this...

Gasol is not THAT injured...just trying to protest against Pringles because he does not respect Pringles. Obviously he's not using Gasol correctly and just wants him to run up and down the floor to play as the 4th option. Lakers front office probably notices that too, so they leaked some trade rumors to get Gasol's act together. After this Gasol already said he'll try his best to fit in the Pringles system.

After all that, I just feel sorry for Gasol. If anyone watched his Olympics performance, you'll know what he's capable of.

Until Lakers get Phil Jackson back (which is never), I don't see Lakers winning anything...

Not a hater, I'm actually a hardcore Lakers fan that watched almost all their games for the past few years.

Inspired · 12-08-2012, 04:10 PM

Even though Bynum is injured right now, I really think Bynum was a much better fit with the Lakers. Howard may be the best center in the league but Bynum was a better fit for the Lakers. The team was way more cohesive with Bynum on the floor vs Howard. The pick and roll was better, the defense was better. With Howard on the floor, the Lakers looks like a joke.

Game · 12-08-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspired

Even though Bynum is injured right now, I really think Bynum was a much better fit with the Lakers. Howard may be the best center in the league but Bynum was a better fit for the Lakers. The team was way more cohesive with Bynum on the floor vs Howard. The pick and roll was better, the defense was better. With Howard on the floor, the Lakers looks like a joke.

You have to give it time....and wait till Nash comes back. Bynum was with the Lakers for 7 years. Dwight, 20 games.

bmw1racer · 12-08-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Game

You have to give it time....and wait till Nash comes back. Bynum was with the Lakers for 7 years. Dwight, 20 games.

Agreed... Bynum looked lost the first couple of seasons, plus he kept getting hurt.

bmw1racer · 12-10-2012, 12:26 AM

Lakers lose to the Jazz, 117-110.

Not pretty.

Game · 12-10-2012, 11:59 AM

We fucking suck.

We're slow and lazy

justinnum1 · 12-10-2012, 04:26 PM

Lakers are a joke. Where are the fans that talked about going 73-9?

M3forMe · 12-10-2012, 04:31 PM

I never said 73-9 but I sure thought they were going to do great. They look like a$$. I don't even think Phil could get this thing going. They are past that. This about the players on the court, not the coaching. They are just flat lazy right now.

ChineseGuy · 12-10-2012, 05:21 PM

I don't believe it's laziness. We're all lazy without motivation. Lakers lack motivation right now because even themselves don't believe that Pringles can lift them up. There's a lot of frustration in the game right now and it's not from offensive side. Missing a shot is fine, but seeing the other team crashing the defensive boards and running to the other end for the fast break is very demotivating.

It all comes down to defense. Lakers are too old to keep up with fast breaks and general defending. What they need is a system to rely on. Unfortunately, Pringles do not offer one. Often you will see Lakers missing a possession and the last line of defense is no where close to the half court line. There's no one to run back for defense. It might take me a few nights to explain their flaws in defense so I'll just stop here.

Just...defense...end of story.

ELiTeNeSs · 12-12-2012, 10:35 AM

We lost to a 4-17 cavs... Smh!

bmw1racer · 12-12-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

I don't believe it's laziness. We're all lazy without motivation. Lakers lack motivation right now because even themselves don't believe that Pringles can lift them up.

No heart and no pride.

The way they're playing, I'm not disappointed at all that KCAL-9 isn't showing the games anymore...

Inspired · 12-12-2012, 02:37 PM

They are gonna play the Knicks tomorrow and Knicks again on Christmas Day.

Alpine F31 · 12-12-2012, 03:06 PM

Bring back Bernie Bickerstaff. (sorry if someone has already said this... I hope someone else did!)

bmw1racer · 12-12-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspired

Knicks again on Christmas Day.

I think I'll watch A Christmas Carol instead... Why ruin my Christmas by watching the Lakers?

Alpine F31 · 12-12-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

Pringles is ALMOST Mike Brown level.

His rotations are weird. There's no defensive system at all. He's too stubborn to make any adjustments. His philosophy is simply wrong.

Almost? I'd say it's neck and neck at this point. He was asked after the Cav's game "what's wrong with the team?" His answer??? "I don't know....."

BRILLIANT!

Even Brown would ramble through a litany of reasons of why they lost, when they lost, which was far too often...just like now.

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sensi09 Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,789 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: socal iTrader: (1)	The rumors with toronto are interesting, but I'd still rather have gasol. He's been injured and takes a bunch of jumpshots in this offense. Just this summer, he was a dominant player even against the US team when he plays closer to the basket. He's had a shooting slump and he takes less shots, but I'd expect his shooting % to increase. Even when he doesn't score much, he makes for a good facilitator in this offense. It's interesting to note, that when bickerstaff was the coach, gasol had some good numbers. Dantoni just needs to find a way to utilize him. Also, nash and dantoni never had a stretch 4 during their time in phoenix other than kurt thomas for a brief period. So they don't need it to win. Here's an interesting link on gasol http://www.sbnation.com/2012/12/5/37...ht-howard-hook
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ChineseGuy QuickShifter 145 Rep 1,499 Posts Drives: Black E90 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North Pole iTrader: (2)	Here's my take on this... Gasol is not THAT injured...just trying to protest against Pringles because he does not respect Pringles. Obviously he's not using Gasol correctly and just wants him to run up and down the floor to play as the 4th option. Lakers front office probably notices that too, so they leaked some trade rumors to get Gasol's act together. After this Gasol already said he'll try his best to fit in the Pringles system. After all that, I just feel sorry for Gasol. If anyone watched his Olympics performance, you'll know what he's capable of. Until Lakers get Phil Jackson back (which is never), I don't see Lakers winning anything... Not a hater, I'm actually a hardcore Lakers fan that watched almost all their games for the past few years.
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Inspired Colonel 156 Rep 2,368 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California iTrader: (2)	Even though Bynum is injured right now, I really think Bynum was a much better fit with the Lakers. Howard may be the best center in the league but Bynum was a better fit for the Lakers. The team was way more cohesive with Bynum on the floor vs Howard. The pick and roll was better, the defense was better. With Howard on the floor, the Lakers looks like a joke.
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M3forMe M3 Dreamin' 38 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 13 E92 - AW Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Orange iTrader: (0)	I never said 73-9 but I sure thought they were going to do great. They look like a$$. I don't even think Phil could get this thing going. They are past that. This about the players on the court, not the coaching. They are just flat lazy right now.
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ChineseGuy QuickShifter 145 Rep 1,499 Posts Drives: Black E90 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North Pole iTrader: (2)	I don't believe it's laziness. We're all lazy without motivation. Lakers lack motivation right now because even themselves don't believe that Pringles can lift them up. There's a lot of frustration in the game right now and it's not from offensive side. Missing a shot is fine, but seeing the other team crashing the defensive boards and running to the other end for the fast break is very demotivating. It all comes down to defense. Lakers are too old to keep up with fast breaks and general defending. What they need is a system to rely on. Unfortunately, Pringles do not offer one. Often you will see Lakers missing a possession and the last line of defense is no where close to the half court line. There's no one to run back for defense. It might take me a few nights to explain their flaws in defense so I'll just stop here. Just...defense...end of story.
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