[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

No. A pump shotgun in NJ can have an adjustable stock, trigger grip, and has no limit on shell capacity. If those limitations weren't in place there would be no discussion as I'd be dead set on the Benelli.

Then I'd stick pump. First, just the sound of racking it is generally enough to end the discussion. If not, the 590A1 will fire each pump if you hold the trigger. About the same speed as an auto because you need a moment to recover from each shot anyway. One i have is also USMC issue like the benneli m4.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by capo180

A shotty is next for me and a baby semi auto for pocket carry lol.

That's exactly where I'm at. I'm just waiting on my purchase permit and I'm picking up a 45 cal Springfield XDs along with one of the shotguns I'm considering. NJ forbids hollow points outside of the home so I'm going to carry a 45 instead of a 9mm like the HK P30 I keep bedside.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

That's exactly where I'm at. I'm just waiting on my purchase permit and I'm picking up a 45 cal Springfield XDs along with one of the shotguns I'm considering. NJ forbids hollow points outside of the home so I'm going to carry a 45 instead of a 9mm like the HK P30 I keep bedside.

True. My carry is my sig p229 .40 with 13 hollowtips, 1911 colt with 8 round clip hollowtips, or ruger lcp .380 with 7 hollowtips. Depends on my mood and what I'm wearing. Backup for shotgun with 9 manstopper low recoil 00 buck is ar15 with 15 penetrators and 15 hollowtips or ak47 with 30 fmj. In any case, its a bad day for my opponents. These don't play well on liberal states but to bad for them.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Then I'd stick pump. First, just the sound of racking it is generally enough to end the discussion. If not, the 590A1 will fire each pump if you hold the trigger. About the same speed as an auto because you need a moment to recover from each shot anyway. One i have is also USMC issue like the benneli m4.

I have a KSG with 7 00 buck and 7 rifled slugs myself. Depending on the surroundings and threat I can choose quickly with the flick of my thumb before chambering.

My XDs 45 and Glock 19 are usually in the night stand as well (those are my 2 main carry weapons)

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

That's exactly where I'm at. I'm just waiting on my purchase permit and I'm picking up a 45 cal Springfield XDs along with one of the shotguns I'm considering. NJ forbids hollow points outside of the home so I'm going to carry a 45 instead of a 9mm like the HK P30 I keep bedside.

Wait, what? Hollow points are much safer for everyone that is not being shot... how can that be a law? That boggles my mind.

For the XDs, look for 6 round mags... they are easily the most comfortable ones! The 5 and 7 that come with it just both miss the mark for me.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

True. My carry is my sig p229 .40 with 13 hollowtips, 1911 colt with 8 round clip hollowtips, or ruger lcp .380 with 7 hollowtips. Depends on my mood and what I'm wearing. Backup for shotgun with 9 manstopper low recoil 00 buck is ar15 with 15 penetrators and 15 hollowtips or ak47 with 30 fmj. In any case, its a bad day for my opponents. These don't play well on liberal states but to bad for them.

Nice!
I'm a newbie to firearms. My P30 is my first gun so I'm just starting a collection!

I was looking at the Glock 36 (single-stack 45) but the XDs is notably slimmer and just feels better in my hand. Now Springfield will even throw in a holster and 4 extra magazines so...

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I have a KSG with 7 00 buck and 7 rifled slugs myself. Depending on the surroundings and threat I can choose quickly with the flick of my thumb before chambering.

My XDs 45 and Glock 19 are usually in the night stand as well (those are my 2 main carry weapons)



Wait, what? Hollow points are much safer for everyone that is not being shot... how can that be a law? That boggles my mind.

For the XDs, look for 6 round mags... they are easily the most comfortable ones! The 5 and 7 that come with it just both miss the mark for me.

I agree but remember in NJ its democrats who make the laws. They don't understand guns.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Nice!
I'm a newbie to firearms. My P30 is my first gun so I'm just starting a collection!

I was looking at the Glock 36 (single-stack 45) but the XDs is notably slimmer and just feels better in my hand. Now Springfield will even throw in a holster and 4 extra magazines so...

Yeah but its an outside the waistband holster. Useless without a coat or long shirt. Prints more too.

[PINeely]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

That looks similar to the setup I used to have. I ended up moving to a safe for fire rating and slightly more protection though.

That's a concern I had. We are planning to add on to the house next year and I'm trying to convince her to let me put a safe in there. I will need a huge one though

[imserious]

If you had one do it all AR what optic or optics would you get. Not brand but magnification/type. Main purpose HD and range fun 100-200 yards.

Right now I have BUIS, red dot and scope 3x-8x.

I tried my friend's 3x fixed prism optic and it was really really nice on a 100 yard range. Clear big sight picture, fast enough with more precision, compact package. Still not as fast as red dot at close range. I'm tempted to add but feel like there is overlap with what I have.

Then there are the 1x-4x scopes that sound like a doable all in one for what I want. Here I'm not sure if it is as fast as a red dot at 1x and not sure if I'd be happy with only 4x on the long end.

From your ownership or usage experience what do you guys like/recommend?

[1MOREMOD]

If you want to shoot minute of man rds at those ranges is all you need. 50 yard zero will give you +/- 2 inches of elevation zero to 250 yards, hold it dead center and done deal.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Yeah but its an outside the waistband holster. Useless without a coat or long shirt. Prints more too.

They had me at 4 magazines. Actually- Before that. I decided on the XDs before I learned of the promo.

[Cuz5150]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Since NJ is so strict about auto shotguns (no pistol grip, no adjustable stock, and 6 shell limit) I've been considering an alternative to the Benelli M4 I've been planning to buy. Wilson Combat's "CQB Shotgun" (modified Remington 870) is only about $300 less expensive than the M4, but it is already accessorized so I think of it as being at least $1000 less expensive than how my M4 would end up. I hear the quality and recoil is superior in the M4, but is it worth less capacity and traditional grip?

Im in NJ and i have that Benelli M4 pictured. Sure no pistol grip, but5+1+1 capacity
The best shot gun hands down Buy the pistol grip & extension tube when you move out of this State........
If you need more capacity, mount a side saddle for an extra 6 shells.
Nothing comes close to the M4. The speed of witch it fires those 7 shells is breath taking. The quality and its heavy duty is second to none.

[imserious]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

If you want to shoot minute of man rds at those ranges is all you need. 50 yard zero will give you +/- 2 inches of elevation zero to 250 yards, hold it dead center and done deal.

I assume you meant red dot? I know it's sufficient for range with a 50 yard zero.

My problem is eye sight - I prefer some magnification when reaching out.

[Todd0131]

I run a vortex strike eagle on one of the ar's. for the money it's pretty decent. I still prefer a red dot though

[1MOREMOD]

Yes rds is red dot sight. You don't have to be abe to see a guys button on his shirt at 250 yards to be able to hold the rds on his center of mass. This is the difference between a square range paper punching mentality and being able to use the gun for intended purpose. It's something I initially struggled with also. I built a precision ar as well for shooting paper.

[smoosh]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Yes rds is red dot sight. You don't have to be abe to see a guys button on his shirt at 250 yards to be able to hold the rds on his center of mass. This is the difference between a square range paper punching mentality and being able to use the gun for intended purpose. It's something I initially struggled with also. I built a precision ar as well for shooting paper.

guns kill people

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by smoosh

guns kill people

Only the bad ones

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Only the bad ones

My guns are so pissed that i keep them locked in the safe. They're always trying to slip out to go raise hell at night after i go to bed.

[smoosh]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

My guns are so pissed that i keep them locked in the safe. They're always trying to slip out to go raise hell at night after i go to bed.

I keep my guns covered cause they'll scare away all the little boys and girls...sometimes, my guns swell up and grow, and start throbbing, as if they're about to explode. all the bitches love making sweet sweet love to them

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

My guns are so pissed that i keep them locked in the safe. They're always trying to slip out to go raise hell at night after i go to bed.

Weird I leave mine laying around so they can do what they want

[Mr Tonka]

All of yours must be good. Mine are always dressed in black, wearing hoodies.

[1MOREMOD]

I have a don't ask don't tell policy. If I don't know what they did I'm not culpable