[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by Bizall

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-r-test-review

Sums it up. Kinda surprised that acceleration matches m235i manual. I wonder what kind of difference do the tires make in acceleration and handling? I think 225/245 setup is ridiculous for BMW, I had wider tires on my S2000 with 240hp

Highs and Lows
Highs:
Grip for days, excellent composure and civility, heavenly seats and shifter.

Lows:
Looking at it or being seen in it, irksome infotainment interface, less-than-thrilling engine note.

[Red Bread]

Impressive 0-60 for fwd. Porky though, at 3,111, since Honda claimed it was under 2,900.

[Beartato]

Originally Posted by Bizall

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-r-test-review

If a car could run on a slurry of Mountain Dew and Doritos, it would be this thing.

That's so accurate. Still want one, but after the market settles.

[Mingwan]

Waiting for someone to drop the Type-R's motor in an EK or EG. Or putting a K20 head on it.

[supra93]

Honda has revealed that it decided to develop the new Civic Type R exclusively with a six-speed manual transmission because an automatic would have been too heavy.

Discussing the fiery new hot hatch with Car Advice at its international launch, assistant large project leader for the 10th-generation Civic, Yuji Matsumochi, admitted that an auto or DSG were considered to broaden the car’s appeal but that neither would have worked.

“We produce just the six-speed manual transmission only for the Type R, because our powertrain has achieved 400Nm and 320 or 310PS – so, big performance.

“The Type R needs a lightweight powertrain because it is front-wheel-drive, and needs lightweight powertrain systems. So, the engine is a little bit heavy, so the transmission side needs to be more lightweight. If we applied an automatic transmission, or dual-clutch transmission, for a 400Nm engine, it would be very heavy weight, and very big. The front weight would be very heavy,” he said.

In recent years, the hot hatch game has shifted from front-wheel drive and manual to all-wheel drive and dual-clutch and while some still offer stick-shifts (think Focus RS and VW Golf R), front-wheel drive hot hatches are a dying breed.

Off the line, this means that the Civic Type R cannot compete with its rivals, but reviews have indicated it offers a driving experience unlike its all-wheel drive counterparts and ultimately, we don’t think hot hatches are defined by their 0-60 mph times. Evidently, it doesn’t seem Honda enthusiasts are too worried anyway.

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/07/hon...heavy-for.html

[c1pher]

Hot hatches aren't defined by their 0-60 times? I would say it's a key benchmark for which hot hatches are bought over just another hatchback. Otherwise, you'd buy any old econobox.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

Hot hatches aren't defined by their 0-60 times? I would say it's a key benchmark for which hot hatches are bought over just another hatchback. Otherwise, you'd buy any old econobox.

They are any old econobox just with a better drivetrain & such.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by supra93

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/07/hon...heavy-for.html

Yea, bs. Not like an auto adds 1k lbs.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Mingwan

Waiting for someone to drop the Type-R's motor in an EK or EG. Or putting a K20 head on it.

If they don't make it look like ass, like this new Type-R looks, it will be the better & faster of the two. This coming from someone that was never a fan of any of these cars

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by 3rdPedalAddict

I was trying to decide between this and the focus rs. I wanted a toy but the this looks too much like a toy.

I was actually looking at a new Focus RS versus it's competitors. This is 10k cheaper but turns out I want a E92 M3. 20K cheaper. ayy

[eluded]

108 trap with C&D

[hellokitty]

$20k markup in CA

[Bluer2]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

$20k markup in CA

20K over MSRP in MS also.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Honda-C...9ZWpXz&vxp=mtr

[Blackraven]

There should be a poll here:

Which hot hatch would you choose:
1) Honda Civic Type R
2) Subaru Imprezza WRX STI
3) Ford Focus RS
4) VW Golf R
5) Others

[skyline408]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I was actually looking at a new Focus RS versus it's competitors. This is 10k cheaper but turns out I want a E92 M3. 20K cheaper. ayy

Not really a fair comparison since both the Civic and Focus RS will be new car with new car warranties.

Something to be said about that... An E92 w/o warranty could be a bit of a headache.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by skyline408

Not really a fair comparison since both the Civic and Focus RS will be new car with new car warranties.

Something to be said about that... An E92 w/o warranty could be a bit of a headache.

Yes I was seeing it that way to first. But I don't expect to have 20k in repairs and maintenance for the M3. 3k off the bat for rod bearings and a bit more maybe for actuators but that's pretty much it.

[bryan_G01]

what a piece of shit.

if it was 21k, i would say its a great buy, but for what it cost, and the way it was built. Not for me.

If you are under 25 years old, i get why you would want this, but can you image being 40 years old driving to a car meet in this thing.

[eluded]

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

If you are under 25 years old, i get why you would want this, but can you image being 40 years old driving to a car meet in this thing.

It's the shizzle.

This car has two things that make it awesome. It's got the VTEC and turbo.

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

what a piece of shit.

if it was 21k, i would say its a great buy, but for what it cost, and the way it was built. Not for me.

If you are under 25 years old, i get why you would want this, but can you image being 40 years old driving to a car meet in this thing.

Question is why is any 40 year old even attending a car meet lol

[bryan_G01]

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Question is why is any 40 year old even attending a car meet lol

what kind of ignorant comment is this?

Cars and coffee is generally made up of older people, much older than 40.

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

what kind of ignorant comment is this?

Cars and coffee is generally made up of older people, much older than 40.

It's not ignorance, it's a statement of priorities. I barely have enough time it is to make it to the track. At 40 only way I'll be at a car meet is to take my kid.

CnC is also filled with guys who spend more time waxing their garage queen than actually taking it out on the road. And regardless it's clear a 40 year old doesn't fall under the main demographics for this car so it's moot anyway.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

Hot hatches aren't defined by their 0-60 times? I would say it's a key benchmark for which hot hatches are bought over just another hatchback. Otherwise, you'd buy any old econobox.

Only if you have been living under a rock.
For the past 7 years or so there has been this huge battle who makes the fastest fwd hot hatch on the ring.
So no, they arent defined anymore by their 0-60 times. they are now defined by their track times.

They cant match say an m3's 0-60 time but they have been kicking its butt for years now on the nordschleife....
I dont know if you've ever been there but especially the success of the megane rs makes you think you're in france if you drive around there, looking at all the renault signs at garages and such....