F1 2022: Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps (Aug 28)

M5Rick · 08-26-2022, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Currently the track is very tricky with wet and dry spots ...

It's squally and Chas replies shakily 'oh okay'when told he is P2 behind Max who is used to the wet patched track.

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's squally and Chas replies shakily 'oh okay'when told he is P2 behind Max who is used to the wet patched track.

More rain drops ...

DrFerry · 08-26-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

More rain drops ...

Max luvs the rain..

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's squally and Chas replies shakily 'oh okay'when told he is P2 behind Max who is used to the wet patched track.

HAM almost lost it at Eau Rouge ...WOW ! ( 2 min.ago )

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFerry

Max luvs the rain..

MAX is incredible in the rain . Average 1 + sec. faster than the rest !

He looks planted like a rock in the rain ! ( snapshot from 2min. ago )

FASTEST OVERALL !!!

M5Rick · 08-26-2022, 01:03 PM

Max almost a second ahead of Chas in FP2
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen...belgian-gp-fp2

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Max almost a second ahead of Chas in FP2
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen...belgian-gp-fp2

MAX took it easy in the tricky wet today and lifted most of the time , so he ran at +/- 75 %
He heard non-stop from Red Bull pitwall : "CAUTION" MAX !!!

If it sunday rains , coming from the back row he can lap the rest

There is no competition for MAX in the rain ..Remember BRAZIL 2016 ...
Today in 2022 he's 300% better !

DrFerry · 08-26-2022, 01:24 PM

Interesting perspective from Juan Montoya discussed in this video regarding what Merc might've be up to over the summer break:
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NYG · 08-26-2022, 01:27 PM

I'm revising my top 3:

1) PER
2) HAM
3) SAI

I think Max and Charles will make it pretty close to the top 3.

NYG · 08-26-2022, 01:37 PM

Actually.... phuck it.

MAX WINNING FROM P15 - WATCH

M5Rick · 08-26-2022, 01:47 PM

Max's FP2

NYG · 08-26-2022, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Max's FP2

Did you hear Charles after he asked his engineer what times Max was running lol.

Sounded like Ferrari was way off pace.

M5Rick · 08-26-2022, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Did you hear Charles after he asked his engineer what times Max was running lol.

Sounded like Ferrari was way off pace.

I heard it but can't remember now.

GuidoK · 08-26-2022, 02:10 PM

It's going to be crowded at the back of the field.
These drivers have to start at the back:

Verstappen
Leclerc
Norris
Ocon
Bottas
Schumacher

But what I don't understand, from what I understand, LEC only gets a new MGUK and ES (energy storage) and gets set back 15 places.
Why not do all (new PU, everything) for only a few places extra?
Sounds like a brilliant new strategic move....

NYG · 08-26-2022, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

It's going to be crowded at the back of the field.
These drivers have to start at the back:

Verstappen
Leclerc
Norris
Ocon
Bottas
Schumacher

But what I don't understand, from what I understand, LEC only gets a new MGUK and ES (energy storage) and gets set back 15 places.
Why not do all (new PU, everything) for only a few places extra?
Sounds like a brilliant new strategic move....

Idk... limiting damage? I'm sure they're expecting lots more failures in the next 9 races.

Meanwhile Redbull pre-emptively puts a new PU for Max even though he already has a new PU in his vehicle. Now they have two new engines to finish the season.

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

I heard it but can't remember now.

Sunday : 47,000 + MAX fans in Orange at SPA !

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 03:56 PM

Eau Rouge was attacked ! Great shot ..

///M Power-Belgium · 08-26-2022, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

It's going to be crowded at the back of the field.
These drivers have to start at the back:

Verstappen
Leclerc
Norris
Ocon
Bottas
Schumacher

But what I don't understand, from what I understand, LEC only gets a new MGUK and ES (energy storage) and gets set back 15 places.
Why not do all (new PU, everything) for only a few places extra?
Sounds like a brilliant new strategic move....

As I said and as you can read

=> https://www.hln.be/formule-1/gp-f1-v...2023~a91f423c/

G30M · 08-26-2022, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yep .That's P20 for Charlie !

He will start from the back of the grid, while enjoying a fresh engine and above all an updated hybrid, MGU-K and updated battery.

This won't be his last PU ...Too bad !

if it were me i'd take the penalty after fitting new engine in practice, and then start at the back of the grid with an older engine and use the new engine next race

can you do that?

GuidoK · 08-27-2022, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Idk... limiting damage? I'm sure they're expecting lots more failures in the next 9 races.

So I've now read something different.
Apparently there's a loophole in the rules (well, actually it's just the rules...):
If you change one day for instance parts that sets you back 15 places, and the next day another part that sets you back 5 places, you're still being set back 15 places?

Can anyone confirm that?
So they're gonna change more to LEC car, but just not everything at once during the weekend?
Ferrari might be up to something...?

This is the link that gave that info:
https://the-race.com/formula-1/rule-...tappen-at-spa/

Can it be that simple?
How can other teams not do/know this? (I'm sure every team has specialists with the main task to study the rules....)

M5Rick · 08-27-2022, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

So I've now read something different.
Apparently there's a loophole in the rules (well, actually it's just the rules...):
If you change one day for instance parts that sets you back 15 places, and the next day another part that sets you back 5 places, you're still being set back 15 places?

Can anyone confirm that?
So they're gonna change more to LEC car, but just not everything at once during the weekend?
Ferrari might be up to something...?

This is the link that gave that info:
https://the-race.com/formula-1/rule-...tappen-at-spa/

Can it be that simple?
How can other teams not do/know this? (I'm sure every team has specialists with the main task to study the rules....)

I would have thought that whatever you change at different times during FP and quali would add up to a total that reflects on the race itself but yes I'm beginning to see now with the reduced penalty points for adding further certain components.

M5Rick · 08-27-2022, 04:33 AM

^^ Even so I would rather be 20th than in the middle of a chaotic pack at the start with high risk of collision going into La Source..or could be they only remembered to also fit the mguk to the car in FP2, Binotto master plan

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