[COOLGREANY]

I don't own the current model yet so I'm wondering if there are any thoughts from current owners on this review of the negative aspects of the X1?

[04S]

That video is a joke. I disagree with everything they say except the over-reliance on the touchscreen and the lack of physical AC controls (which is effectively the same thing).

iD8 is a disaster - yes.

Disagree with all of their other points.

Ones they don’t mention:

1. over-aggressive start stop which can at times make the takeoff of the car super slow when you need it to be fast;
2. The centre console door opens the wrong way
3. The space under the centre console is useless and basically inaccessible
4. The AC system is completely counterintuitive - you get no seat heating for instance unless the interior temp is set to more than 26 c. To get the seat heating working you need to turn off the auto climate control. This is complete madness.
5. The middle seat belt coming out of the roof is crazy - makes the car feel like a Mazda

Despite all of the above the car rides beautifully, is comfortable to sit in and a pleasure to drive. The main (but not only) issue is iD8 and the consequences which flow from a lack of physical buttons.

I have 2 cars with iD7 and it is such a pleasure to get back into those cars given superior functionality

[FZI89]

Originally Posted by 04S

That video is a joke. I disagree with everything they say except the over-reliance on the touchscreen and the lack of physical AC controls (which is effectively the same thing).

iD8 is a disaster - yes.

Disagree with all of their other points.

Ones they don’t mention:

1. over-aggressive start stop which can at times make the takeoff of the car super slow when you need it to be fast;
2. The centre console door opens the wrong way
3. The space under the centre console is useless and basically inaccessible
4. The AC system is completely counterintuitive - you get no seat heating for instance unless the interior temp is set to more than 26 c. To get the seat heating working you need to turn off the auto climate control. This is complete madness.
5. The middle seat belt coming out of the roof is crazy - makes the car feel like a Mazda

Despite all of the above the car rides beautifully, is comfortable to sit in and a pleasure to drive. The main (but not only) issue is iD8 and the consequences which flow from a lack of physical buttons.

I have 2 cars with iD7 and it is such a pleasure to get back into those cars given superior functionality

Re point 1: i can’t say anything as i have the iX1, but everybody here complains about it. I think it’s a matter of software tweaking and hopefully BMW does something about that soon!

Re point 2: UK drivers are unlucky with that. I don’t understand why they couldn’t flip the opening of the centre console.

Re point 3: it really is useless. I put the drivers manual in there to save up some space in the glove compartment.

Re point 4: in my opinion, the A/C works best when you turn off the automatic function. You can then set the seat heating, climate temp, and power exactly how you like it. Even if temp is set to 21°C, heat seating will work.

Re point 5: someone must have been smoking when thinking of this seatbelt design. At least it’s held firmly up there with magnets

[FlashMonkey929]

This video is very clickbait-ish. The fact that they are using stock footage, don't elaborate on any of the shortcomings very much, and what I suspect is an AI generated voiceover, means that they are merely just pushing out content designed to get reactions and views. What got me is the criticism of lacking passing power, especially when they don't specify which powertrain (I'm assuming the US 28i based on their fuel economy figures). This car absolutely does not lack in passing power at all and in fact I think this car might accelerate faster than the 2020 430i that I previously leased. I feel bad for watching this video now and contributing to their YouTube algorithm.

[FlashMonkey929]

Originally Posted by 04S

That video is a joke. I disagree with everything they say except the over-reliance on the touchscreen and the lack of physical AC controls (which is effectively the same thing).

iD8 is a disaster - yes.

Disagree with all of their other points.

Ones they don’t mention:

1. over-aggressive start stop which can at times make the takeoff of the car super slow when you need it to be fast;
2. The centre console door opens the wrong way
3. The space under the centre console is useless and basically inaccessible
4. The AC system is completely counterintuitive - you get no seat heating for instance unless the interior temp is set to more than 26 c. To get the seat heating working you need to turn off the auto climate control. This is complete madness.
5. The middle seat belt coming out of the roof is crazy - makes the car feel like a Mazda

Despite all of the above the car rides beautifully, is comfortable to sit in and a pleasure to drive. The main (but not only) issue is iD8 and the consequences which flow from a lack of physical buttons.

I have 2 cars with iD7 and it is such a pleasure to get back into those cars given superior functionality

Coming from an iD7 car, while I do miss its simplicity sometimes, I haven't had much issues with iD8 except for a temporary glitch here and there, and it's actually gotten better for me over time.

Their throttle mapping for the 28i here in the US is horrendous in personal mode. Should have the response of sport mode but without the extended holding of gears, not the rubber throttle map it has now. If they just tweaked the start/stop to only shut down once the car has been at a complete stop after 2 seconds it would work so much better as well.

Center console - agree completely. It's just decoration, especially with the sport seat bolsters.

A/C - I don't have heated seats, but I have my climate control set to auto at 20C and haven't had any issues with mine.

Middle seat belt - I actually kind of like it, as I can't really see it when driving, and makes the rear bench look cleaner. Less stuff to tangle when folding the seats down too.

[enjay77]

I like the way start stop works on it to be honest, it rolls to junctions nicely and starts generally as soon as you need it to. The real issue however is that if you don’t come to a complete stop it seems to have a delay getting the revs going again - I can’t figure out exactly why it does this but I remember the Auto Land Rover Discovery Sport doing something similar if it just dropped into 1st gear approaching an island but you saw a gap and wanted to go for it - and that wasn’t MHEV. I’ve only just got the car back from the repair shop (don’t ask!) so not had much time to play but I thought on auto climate if you turn the temp up then it used seat heating in conjunction with the blower to warm you up? I quite like it, not as smooth at low speed manoeuvres as my 530d was and weirdly feels bigger but I am looking forward to trying out towing with it across France soon, also, ID9 seems mostly ok so far

[WA]

The video is obviously a lazy compilation of b-roll and fake voiced narration. And the YouTube channel shows that it was created less than 4 months ago. While a poor source in general, I go through it point by point below.

While I'm overall pleased with the X1, I'm not an apologist for it (as you'll see below.) It does have a few inexcusable design/execution issues, but every car does. I don't look back to my second choice last year and regret getting the X1. Pros outweighing the cons, particularly compared to other options.

Numbering, topics, and quotes below are from the video transcript. And my comparisons are US based, as this channel says it's US based. For reference, I've had my X1 since December.

1. Powertrain.
"It is the least powerful car in its class and even lags behind models a class or two below it. The difference becomes quite perceptible when compared to the likes of the GLA."

My take: Largely nonsense, I am perfectly satisfied with the overall power for this price point. And is certainly not the "least powerful car in its class."

2023 BMW X1 28i ....... 241 HP / 295 Torque
2023 MB GLA 250 ...... 221 HP / 258 Torque
2023 Audi Q3 .............. 228 HP / 251 Torque
2023 Volvo XC40 B5 .. 247 HP / 258 Torque

(Obviously there are higher performance models, like the upcoming X1 M35i, the MB AMG GLA 35/45, etc. But the above I believe are the models in the same price category.)

"Additionally, the drive modes don't make a significant difference."
My take: The main drive modes (Personal, Sport, Efficiency, leaving aside the purely cosmetic ones) do make a noticeable difference.

But I do hate the fact that they are not configurable. Even with my previous Volvo XC40 you could configure the "Individual" (I think that was their name) one, so you could for example have weightier steering without having to use Sport mode. When you can't even change the ambient lighting on any mode except Personal, I've concluded these are not "My Modes" as the function is named, but they are "Their Modes" that being BMW's marketing dept.

"The shifts aren't as smooth as one would expect."
My take: I have no complaints with this. Except for the lag from a stop, but that is more throttle than shifts.

2. Touchscreen Dependency
My take: I completely agree with this.
The combination of everything in the touchscreen, no iDrive controller, poor UI design of iDrive8, combine to make the infotainment by far the worst executed feature set of the car.

I of course knew when I ordered there would unfortunately be no iDrive controller, but I was not anticipating how bad iDrive8 would be, making the lack of controller so much worse.

And I am not anti-touchscreen by any means. I have designed/programmed touchscreen interfaces in my (non-automotive industry) job for 24 years. So not anti-touchscreen, but very much anti-bad touchscreen design/execution.

"For instance, turning off the idle start-stop feature requires navigating through menus every single time you drive the car."
My take: Also correct. If the auto stop/start wasn't so poorly designed, this wouldn't be such a frustration. But it turns off the car far too quickly, that if enabled, the car might turn off 5 times just navigating out of a parking lot because it turns off the car after a tenth of a second instead of a couple seconds.

To avoid the deep touchscreen navigation, you can put a shortcut for it on the swipe down screen. But still ridiculous to not have a hard button to be able to quickly/easily toggle it on/off. As I want it on for stop lights, but off for the parking lot example or when needing to pull into 40 mile an hour traffic from a stop where the re-start hesitation can be dangerous.

3. Visible Signs of Cost Cutting
My take: Largely nonsense. The narration mentions the cup holders and pull tabs to recline the rear seats as its ridiculous examples. Though I have sympathy for the non-North American markets that inexplicably do not get the adaptive cup holders.

Again, for this price point, I am pleased with the materials and build quality.

Though not mentioned, the lack of iDrive controller could be in that cost cutting category. But I think it was more marketing (influencing design) than cost cutting. I'm picturing some marketing genius saying "we can't make it too good, or it will take away X3 sales" as a misguided reason for excluding it.

4. Voice Control Inconsistency.
"The voice control feature of the BMW X1 can be hit-or-miss, lacking the desired reliability and accuracy."

My take: Completely agree.
Another "excuse" for excluding the iDrive controller is the use of voice command. While it's better than my XC40 was, that just takes it from a 1 to a 3 out of 10. It 100% does not work for what I've attempted to use it for recently, turning on/off the AC.

I will say the command, it will repeat back the exact function "I have turned off the AC" or whatever the verbiage is. But it will in fact not have either turned off or on the AC. This wasn't just a one-time thing. On maybe 8 instances, it clearly understands my request correctly and says it has done X, while it has really done nothing. It has never done it correctly ... all while contributed to distracted driving instead of having physical climate buttons.

5. Limited Engine and Transmission Options:
My take: Largely stupid entry.
Though the narration does not mention it ... Yes, I'd like to see BMW import the iX1 or a hybrid, but not unusual at this point, and not the highest volume car in this market. The US also does not import the non-XDrive varient, which I imagine didn't have a significant take rate in the previous generation. So again, non a big deal here.

6. Poor Fuel Economy:
"The petrol engine variant of the BMW X1 may disappoint in terms of fuel efficiency. With an EPA estimate of 28 mpg in combined city and highway driving, it falls in line with average numbers for an extra-small luxury SUV."

Combined (US) EPA:
2023 BMW X1 28i ........ 28 MPG
2023 MB GLA 250 ....... 26 MPG
2023 Audi Q3 ............... 25 MPG
2023 Volvo XC40 B5 ... 26 MPG

My experience: In 1600 miles, I am getting about the expected 28.

7. Stiff Ride Quality
"Some drivers might find the ride of the BMW X1 to be too stiff."

My take: This is obviously quite subjective. And I come from 10+ years of driving my MINI Coupe S, so anything else is going to be "soft" in comparison. But I'm fine with the X1, if anything I would want it firmer. (It is a little firmer than my departed 2020 XC40, which I'm pleased with.)

8. Digital Integration of AC Controls:
My take: Agree, but really the same as the Touchscreen Dependency topic above.

[Tomduck]

The first thing to say is that no car is perfect, all have foibles and negatives but here is my view on my recently delivered X1..

1. iDrive 9 is not a disaster. Sure if you are not tech savvy then all of these “computer” based modern technologies will be a pain for you. If you invest time to set it up for your usage then it really isn’t an issue. But no doubt at some point all of these “computers” on any brand of car will have some issues, but you would be statistically unlucky for them to be something that a reset wouldn’t cure. All the cars that come out in the next X years will have similar systems. Is id7 easier to use? Yes but then it is far less configurable. If you are happy to set the car up initially the way you want it and use the shortcuts to control daily functions then it is very easy. I find all this digital key, app stuff a bit flaky yes but then I have already decided to just bypass it all because I managed without it for 35 years of driving before and I don’t use the car so often that I need that level of convenience and nth degree of functionality.

2.Yes on RHD cars the centre console opens the wrong way which is bizarre and lazy, Is it annoying? Yes, but it’s really not a significant thing after a week, anyways it’s so shallow all you can do is keep loose change and a pen in there so you may as well just think of it as an armrest!

3. I do think the centre console is the weakest part of the car but it leads to a very clean looking design and the car is beautiful inside, airy, spacious and very bright with amazing visibility in this class. I don’t struggle to store things under the arm rest, but they are on view and not hidden away neatly. So yes front storage is the cars weakest point, but it’s not a deal breaker unless you are some kind of storage freak!

4. The heated seat/AC issue appears to have been fixed in iD9, as my heated seats will turn on whenever I want, whatever is going on with the rest of the AC system (so long as it’s on). The AC system and seat heating controls are simple and intuitive on iD9.

5. I literally hadn’t even noticed the middle seat belt so have just gone out to check on it! Only you can say if this will bother you but I rarely have people in the back and never in the tiny middle seat, so it has zero effect and because I hadn’t noticed it in two weeks is clearly not that big a deal design wise unless you are using that middle seat often.

6. Interior build quality is as good or better as anything in the class, sure the door bins and the side of the seats that you basically never see are less tactile than other areas but that’s par for the course.

7. There is some voice control inconsistency as there is on all manufacturers systems but it is better than expected. It requires the user to not waffle and keep commands simple. Just say “massage seats” and not “turn on the massage function” for example

8. Fuel economy on the diesel is by far the best in class, on petrol from what I can see it is give or take equal to the competition so not sure what the reviewers point is here. Only makes sense as a comment if you are highlighting something that is visibly better on a competitor which isn’t the case. Clearly some bias in the review for whatever reason.

9. Ride quality is as expected on BMWs firm but compliant. The XC40 is softer overall but overall a nice experience, the Q3 is worse because whilst it is as firm (SLine or Blk edition spec) it is less compliant in FWD form. Not driven the Merc competitor so cannot comment.

I posted a review on this board last week of the diesel 18d Msport version (and I also drove the 23d prior to order several times) I believe overall they are class leading cars, especially so if you go tbe diesel route. But even generally the car is a very nice place to be and a very easy drive. I have not had any issue with the stop start (and my car is not a mild hybrid) and the gearbox whilst it does have some hesitation if not in sport mode, only has the same hesitation that the Audi Q3, and Volvo XC40 has and probably all the others in the class which use similar gearbox solutions. The auto box isn’t as good as the X3 though, that is true, but then it’s a different class of car.

[gqbriel]

I really dont understand what is all that about..

Why do we care ?
Most of these are nonsense especially considering power output.

The most powerful GLA is the AMG35 which is less powerfull than the 30e or to be more precise right next to it but its an AMG.
The x1 M35 is right there.But if we ignore the AMG and "M" the 30e will demolish any of the GLA models - from experience

Consumption - who cares?None of these have a massive 6 or 8 cyl - it will be pretty similar for any engine having the same capacity and technology and then comes the pHEVs and electric ones.

All of these comparisons are just to have some content.Since i have mostly view on Mercedes and BMW - GLA,GLC are smaller inside compared to X1 and we have 2022 GLA and 2023 GLC.

If we say X1 dash lacks the idrive well the GLC is a complete nonsense with its position.

IF bmw change only few things the X1 will be astonishing:

- suspension - multilink
- idrive - that thing is a MUST i have no idea why any designer will remove it as this directly impacts safety
- brakes get rid of the by wire and use hydraulic

[Tomduck]

+1 Agree, who cares what this random video suggests, test the car yourself and the only opinion that matters is yours! Do you like the car more than the others you have tested? If yes get one, if not don’t… 😉

Simples

[MontyB1]

What is the issue with the seats / steering wheel, are we saying turn either on and car decides if they turn on or not due to other temps? Surely not.

As it’s been rather warm here since getting the car we haven’t tried either but surely if you want to have AC on and warm hands or bum that’s up to you?

Has anyone else seen this completely missed it as an issue.

[COOLGREANY]

"For instance, turning off the idle start-stop feature requires navigating through menus every single time you drive the car."

On our 2014 X1, I have the start/stop disabled as I kinda hate it. So, is the above statement true? Will I need to disable it each time I drive the car? Does it not remember the driver preference for that setting like the 2020 model (e.g. if different than my wife)?

[beefgroovy]

Originally Posted by COOLGREANY

"For instance, turning off the idle start-stop feature requires navigating through menus every single time you drive the car."

On our 2014 X1, I have the start/stop disabled as I kinda hate it. So, is the above statement true? Will I need to disable it each time I drive the car? Does it not remember the driver preference for that setting like the 2020 model (e.g. if different than my wife)?

It will reenable every time you start the car. Easiest way is to make a shortcut for disabling it and clicking that each time you get in.

That said, I don’t mind the feature. My only experience with it up until now is on any of the MINI loaners I’ve had over the years, and always hated it on those cars. It’s also been pretty hot here in Maryland, so the car seems to start back up before the light turns green. I might have a slightly different opinion of it come fall, but for now I just consider it part of getting used to how an automatic works (all of my cars have been manuals up until now).

[SeattleX1]

Originally Posted by beefgroovy

It will reenable every time you start the car. Easiest way is to make a shortcut for disabling it and clicking that each time you get in.

That said, I don’t mind the feature. My only experience with it up until now is on any of the MINI loaners I’ve had over the years, and always hated it on those cars. It’s also been pretty hot here in Maryland, so the car seems to start back up before the light turns green. I might have a slightly different opinion of it come fall, but for now I just consider it part of getting used to how an automatic works (all of my cars have been manuals up until now).

From all of the reviews I thought the first thing we would do is a shortcut to disable it…..since getting the car last week we dont even notice it as an issue or even as a feature, it just works.

[Kothar]

Tried heated steering wheel in the x1, no button only in UI. It doesn't get toasty very wicked and sort of weak. Unlike my prior m235 which was able to do all of above and had a button.

[tex2670]

"For instance, turning off the idle start-stop feature requires navigating through menus every single time you drive the car."

This is why BMW created the "shortcuts" feature. Create a shortcut for turning off stop/start. Then swipe down on screen and hit the shortcut button. No menus needed.

Or hit "My Modes" and use Sport Mode; again, no menus needed.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by COOLGREANY

On our 2014 X1, I have the start/stop disabled as I kinda hate it. So, is the above statement true? Will I need to disable it each time I drive the car? Does it not remember the driver preference for that setting like the 2020 model (e.g. if different than my wife)?

Yes.

I had a '14 328 as my prior car, which remembered the last stop/start setting. The stop/start system was much more harsh and noticeable in that car than it is on the new X1, which is much smoother, but cannot be programmed or coded to remember the last stop/start setting. I do not bother disabling stop/start; but if you use it and also engage Auto Hold, the hesitation from a dead stop can be much more noticeable and sometimes intrusive. So I don't leave Auto Hold on all the time any more.

[zestyorange]

After driving my X1 for year and half I had 2 recalls, one of the them still has no remedy.

I have a lot of questions to the car's software. It is bad to say the least.
My neighbors kid rode a bicycle and scratched the car door - nothing on Drive Recorder, no alarm, no notification on the iPhone app. Before that car was towed with exactly the same experience. Absolute silence. Recommendation from customer service was to update software which was up to date.

The maps, oh... the maps sometimes are far from the reality.

One day I was driving for 2 hours to a different state and whole navigation system crashed while I was driving. It happened on a busy road in the mountains where I have not been before. It was really unexpected moment.

Driving experience is questionable. I compared it to X2 of my friend and X2 holds the road better, feels much more stable on the road.

Remote control is weird and sluggish. Good luck downloading photo from the camera. It takes a whole minute. How does Facebook loads 1000 of them in seconds?

When car gets conditioned remotely - the steering wheel doesn't heat up. What a weird decision not to heat the wheel in the winter.

Car has a rain sensor and camera inside the car, pressure sensors on seats but it doesn't close sunroof if it will start to rain. I have no respect for BMW's SE.

If BMW doesn't catch up on software it will go out of business. Tesla is miles ahead with this regard.

I wish the car's software was opensource so I could go and fix this nonsense.

Start/stop functionality to save the gas is absolutely annoying. You stop at the Stop sign and car shutsoff. It does it in a slow traffic which is extremely annoying. If I switch car to Sport it starts jerking in a slow speed.
Car is totally capable to recognize the stop signs as it does for speed limits, also it has information about traffic on the road. Why just don't use this information and don't annoy everyone for turning engine off for 1 second.

Another thing - it is impossible to find any technical information about the car. No service manuals. No drawings. Nothing.
Are the all BMW customers really at the level of housewife?

I love the interior of the car but certain controls should be done differently.

Despite many complaints I like the touch screen but the software has to be improved. It is a big issue.

[BarrettDB]

Originally Posted by zestyorange

After driving my X1 for year and half I had 2 recalls, one of the them still has no remedy.

I have a lot of questions to the car's software. It is bad to say the least.
My neighbors kid rode a bicycle and scratched the car door - nothing on Drive Recorder, no alarm, no notification on the iPhone app. Before that car was towed with exactly the same experience. Absolute silence. Recommendation from customer service was to update software which was up to date.

The maps, oh... the maps sometimes are far from the reality.

One day I was driving for 2 hours to a different state and whole navigation system crashed while I was driving. It happened on a busy road in the mountains where I have not been before. It was really unexpected moment.

Driving experience is questionable. I compared it to X2 of my friend and X2 holds the road better, feels much more stable on the road.

Remote control is weird and sluggish. Good luck downloading photo from the camera. It takes a whole minute. How does Facebook loads 1000 of them in seconds?

When car gets conditioned remotely - the steering wheel doesn't heat up. What a weird decision not to heat the wheel in the winter.

Car has a rain sensor and camera inside the car, pressure sensors on seats but it doesn't close sunroof if it will start to rain. I have no respect for BMW's SE.

If BMW doesn't catch up on software it will go out of business. Tesla is miles ahead with this regard.

I wish the car's software was opensource so I could go and fix this nonsense.

Start/stop functionality to save the gas is absolutely annoying. You stop at the Stop sign and car shutsoff. It does it in a slow traffic which is extremely annoying. If I switch car to Sport it starts jerking in a slow speed.
Car is totally capable to recognize the stop signs as it does for speed limits, also it has information about traffic on the road. Why just don't use this information and don't annoy everyone for turning engine off for 1 second.

Another thing - it is impossible to find any technical information about the car. No service manuals. No drawings. Nothing.
Are the all BMW customers really at the level of housewife?

I love the interior of the car but certain controls should be done differently.

Despite many complaints I like the touch screen but the software has to be improved. It is a big issue.

The user manual is in an app that you can view on your center screen.

[Fish Fingers]

Originally Posted by zestyorange

After driving my X1 for year and half I had 2 recalls, one of the them still has no remedy.

I have a lot of questions to the car's software. It is bad to say the least.
My neighbors kid rode a bicycle and scratched the car door - nothing on Drive Recorder, no alarm, no notification on the iPhone app. Before that car was towed with exactly the same experience. Absolute silence. Recommendation from customer service was to update software which was up to date.

The maps, oh... the maps sometimes are far from the reality.

One day I was driving for 2 hours to a different state and whole navigation system crashed while I was driving. It happened on a busy road in the mountains where I have not been before. It was really unexpected moment.

Driving experience is questionable. I compared it to X2 of my friend and X2 holds the road better, feels much more stable on the road.

Remote control is weird and sluggish. Good luck downloading photo from the camera. It takes a whole minute. How does Facebook loads 1000 of them in seconds?

When car gets conditioned remotely - the steering wheel doesn't heat up. What a weird decision not to heat the wheel in the winter.

Car has a rain sensor and camera inside the car, pressure sensors on seats but it doesn't close sunroof if it will start to rain. I have no respect for BMW's SE.

If BMW doesn't catch up on software it will go out of business. Tesla is miles ahead with this regard.

I wish the car's software was opensource so I could go and fix this nonsense.

Start/stop functionality to save the gas is absolutely annoying. You stop at the Stop sign and car shutsoff. It does it in a slow traffic which is extremely annoying. If I switch car to Sport it starts jerking in a slow speed.
Car is totally capable to recognize the stop signs as it does for speed limits, also it has information about traffic on the road. Why just don't use this information and don't annoy everyone for turning engine off for 1 second.

Another thing - it is impossible to find any technical information about the car. No service manuals. No drawings. Nothing.
Are the all BMW customers really at the level of housewife?

I love the interior of the car but certain controls should be done differently.

Despite many complaints I like the touch screen but the software has to be improved. It is a big issue.

I think most of the traditional (German) manufacturers are lagging behind Tesla with software.

They all need to up their game.

Despite issues with BMW software, I would still suggest it's way better than all VAG software.
I also hear a lot of negatives about Mercedes.

Tesla has shown the way - especially with OTA updates.
Unfortunately, I don't really like Tesla's

[Lantirn]

Cmon with tesla. I think most tesla owners want teslas because they are computer/tech freaks, either its their second car, and in that case i wouldnt mind TBH (to have it as a 2nd car). I prefer a car that drives well and having to compromise some tech, than having an ipad mounted on center for a speedometer etc. Yes tesla is ahead in tech and battery tech but I believe this company will eventually fade as traditional (and also german ofc) car companies are catching up with battery specs and tech gadgets.

[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by Lantirn

Cmon with tesla. I think most tesla owners want teslas because they are computer/tech freaks, either its their second car, and in that case i wouldnt mind TBH (to have it as a 2nd car). I prefer a car that drives well and having to compromise some tech, than having an ipad mounted on center for a speedometer etc. Yes tesla is ahead in tech and battery tech but I believe this company will eventually fade as traditional (and also german ofc) car companies are catching up with battery specs and tech gadgets.

my co-worker just took delivery of his Tesla Model Y. I get that it's the low-end of the Tesla vehicles, but that's no excuse for the car's A-pillars and the fenders being misaligned. The here's a gap where the A-pillar joins the front fender. On the left side(driver's side), that gap looks normal. On the right A-pillar, that gaps is tilted and not in a straight line. Not to mention that the gaps is almost 1/4-inch bigger. The Tesla service center told him that there was nothing they could do to adjust it, since those are joined together at the factory. They plan to have it sent to a bodyshop to correct this major issue. My guess is that they have to remove the entire right front fender and reinstall it properly. Not even sure how they could have missed during inspection before leaving the Tesla factory.