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      09-13-2021, 03:16 PM   #45
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Why would they waste M division engineers time on it?
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      09-13-2021, 03:40 PM   #46
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The X1 is basically Mini Cooper Clubmans with BMW bodies and interiors. I don't see the problem with BMW doing this seeing their direct competition does this as well. Kind of surprised the would make an X1M but I suppose it's also an answer to what MB and Audi offer.
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Because I had an X1 as a loaner and wanted to shoot myself.
Lol my father got an X1 as a loaner and two days later couldn't stand it, drove straight to the dealer and demanded a better car. They had a 540 M Sport.

The X1 is a total appliance, anybody saying otherwise has probably just driven appliances their entire life and doesn't know any better. The first gen X1 drove like a proper BMW but the current one is a turd.
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No. Why did you think it was a sarcasm?
Because I had an X1 as a loaner and wanted to shoot myself.
Yes it was horrible. There is nothing BMW left in that fwd crap
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If there will be a X1M, does it mean, we will have a F40 1 Serie M ?

Asking that because of the same plateforme shared and more or less same motors...
This would be much more appealing. A proper A45S / RS3 hatchback rival.
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Very curious to see the magic of M translated into this car. When I read the raving reviews of the Golf VIII R or the AMG 45s, I presume that even FWD biased cars can become splendid driving machines with a proper setup.
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Nice!

I really enjoyed my last 2020 X1! Fun to drive!
Kudos to BMW for bringing first ever X1M!!!
I'm picking up my 2nd X1 mpsort tomorrow. Myeaae is up, but inventory and leases suck now, so found a cpo estoril blue with oyster interior, and led headlights. Was hoping for at least a 35i version. This made my day lol. X1 is practical for homeowners and those with kids that need the cargo area.
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Lol my father got an X1 as a loaner and two days later couldn't stand it, drove straight to the dealer and demanded a better car. They had a 540 M Sport.

The X1 is a total appliance, anybody saying otherwise has probably just driven appliances their entire life and doesn't know any better. The first gen X1 drove like a proper BMW but the current one is a turd.
But they're nothing a like so it's not fare to compare. Those who but sav/sun's more than likely but for the cargo area. Plus fully loaded its a good price. It's not gonna do 10 second quarter miles, or handle like an m3, but that's not what it's really intended for.
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I shouldn't be intrigued by this, but for some reason, I am....
You should.. it's Dimensions are similar to the 3 series (my 18 is at least) but is a few inches taller, and has cargo room. But length and width were practically the same. I was hoping for this, because it's not big like the x3, and more nimble especially the turning radius. It will be the perfect combo of fun and practicality.
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We have an X1, it is a 2016, and it is nice vehicle. Great for hauling stuff and my daughter loved it so much it became exclusively her vehicle. I still drive it from time to time and it is fun to drive. I have a 340 and the X1 is certainly not quick like the 340, nor does the older 2016 have the newer features, but is still car that I am impressed with. An updated and quicker little X1M might be a real hit. Will be interesting to see if this takes off.
Agreed! I have an 18 msport, picking up another tomorrow lease is up.. but it's not a bad car, but would love more power and a tweak on suspension, other than that it's practical and fun especially having a house and family. If I was 18 again, I'd probably think differently though.
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The problem was worst at UDE, where you'd squeeze the throttle out of a turn only to wait, wait, wait for the traction control to decide the wheels were straight enough to give you the power you're asking for.

If it drives right, kudos for an X1M.
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If this is the only way the US gets an m division "wagon" then I'm all for it. Lowered it'll look just like a 3er wagon so bring it on
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I don't own BMW shares so I don't care nor am I the target demographic for this car. Call me when they release the M340I ZHP with 6 sp manual.
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But they're nothing a like so it's not fare to compare. Those who but sav/sun's more than likely but for the cargo area. Plus fully loaded its a good price. It's not gonna do 10 second quarter miles, or handle like an m3, but that's not what it's really intended for.
Yes that's my entire point. M division shouldn't be forced to produce a token "M" a car out of this.
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I don't own BMW shares so I don't care nor am I the target demographic for this car. Call me when they release the M340I ZHP with 6 sp manual.
You might just wanna cut your phone service at that point
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Uh oh, wait until the M3 guys hear about this!

"They are diluting the M brand!"

"It's not a real M car like my ____ _____ is!"

"M used to mean Motorsport and now it just stands for Marketing. BMW is dead to me."
Hahaha. Nailed it.
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Uh oh, wait until the M3 guys hear about this!

"They are diluting the M brand!"

"It's not a real M car like my ____ _____ is!"

"M used to mean Motorsport and now it just stands for Marketing. BMW is dead to me."
This is all 100% true though?
BMW still makes the M3 correct? And the new model has been pretty much universally hailed for its performance correct?
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Uh oh, wait until the M3 guys hear about this!

"They are diluting the M brand!"

"It's not a real M car like my ____ _____ is!"

"M used to mean Motorsport and now it just stands for Marketing. BMW is dead to me."
This is all 100% true though?
BMW still makes the M3 correct? And the new model has been pretty much universally hailed for its performance correct?
Universally known for its disproportionate styling and obesity issues as well
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No. Why did you think it was a sarcasm?
Because if it wasn't, it should have been.

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Uh oh, wait until the M3 guys hear about this!

"They are diluting the M brand!"

"It's not a real M car like my ____ _____ is!"

"M used to mean Motorsport and now it just stands for Marketing. BMW is dead to me."
This is all 100% true though?
BMW still makes the M3 correct? And the new model has been pretty much universally hailed for its performance correct?
Universally known for its disproportionate styling and obesity issues as well
Style is subjective. And in any event the M division is primarily (traditionally) renowned for distinctive performance, and if the current M models that facilitated that reputation embody that, then explain how an X1M in any way diminishes that? The ONLY way it could diminish the M legacy is if it does not have class leading performance, which I'm sure it will.
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It's gonna be such a corner carver. And with a nice Akra or FI exhaust setup it'll sound amazing! But personally 400hp isn't quite enough output to justify choosing it over others. If it can get tuned up to 500-510hp without stressing stock hardware I'm in.
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