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10-30-2023, 07:54 AM | #24 | |
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Could you be sat at the lights in silence using no fuel, yes, but no. 20+ years ago in Switzerland you had to turn your car off if you weren't sat in the first few cars by law, it was and still is to reduce emissions in the valleys in the summer. This was followed, Taxis even got pushed forwards rather than starting them up, it was followed despite the delay to get going. The US has a VERY long way to go even decades later. |
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10-30-2023, 10:25 AM | #26 | |
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I'm not against the feature, but BMW could have done a lot better job of implementing the feature in the '23 X1. |
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Yeah it does seem a little broken in the US compared to most other markets, but isn't the issue the throttle delay / clutch actuation rather than the engine switching off. Years ago I had an A3 with S-Tronic as a company car that had similar traits, not ideal at all but you got to work around them. Was nice to get back into a full torque converter for the next car mind.
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I have no problem with cars having ASS if the driver has the option to turn it on or off. There are many circumstances, outlined on this forum and others, of the negative consequences of not having that option. But looking at the big picture, if we all drove cars with ASS I don't believe it would make any significant or meaningful difference relative to the total use of fossil fuels in the world. In my opinion, ASS is another feel-good mandate by progressive governments and is irrelevant to the problem they profess they want to solve. |
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But to say it makes virtually no different, if every car in the US had it and it was used the millions of gallons of fuel less that would be used year on year would be significant. Everything that can be done like that should, simple as that. The fact that more advanced and faster acting ASS solutions that make the X1 better to drive are fitted to almost all other models and markets except the US is a telling indictment in market sentiment for most of the US. |
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The PHEV the wife has is a joy in this area even again the slushy auto I have in the X3, really makes the car have a stunning pickup and feel so lively around town. |
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10-30-2023, 06:30 PM | #33 | |
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I've got to take my X1 in soon for its first scheduled oil change, I'm hoping the dealer might have the update and it's just not available OTA yet.
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I really wish they take a note from my Toyota Highlander. Just press the brake harder after stopping to activate auto stop.
Auto stop really is only useful when it’s off more than a few seconds. Idk at this point auto stop will phase out due to cars going electric. The future is bleak for auto start stop. |
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my driveway goes up hill... when I come home, I let the car roll up and come to a near stop WITHOUT even pressing the brake pedal. the X1's engine would shut off whiel the car is still rolling forward slowly. at that point, I usually have about another 5 feet to go. pressing the gas pedal starts the car immediately agagin and I drive the last 5 feet, then shut off the engine manually... talk about a dumb design. the BMW engineer(s) responsible should be spanked the German way!
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Why is that bad, the X3 does the same but the engine restarts faster than I can get to the accelerator so it’s never an issue. Presume the clutch issue is what causes the issue it turning off like that.
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In low speed parking it's bad. The engine shuts down before I'm fully into the garage. It's stupid, and it prevents me from using the brake hold feature, which just exacerbates the issue.
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Also highly annoying when going over speed bumps, or when creeping forward to make a turn through a gap in oncoming traffic it becomes a safety issue. With the ASS and throttle delay in the pedal combined, sooner than later someone is going to get plowed into because the car didn’t accelerate when it was told to.
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