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      01-06-2024, 09:53 AM   #23
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I am picking up my new X1 tomorrow which is an M Sport on 20" wheels and has adaptive suspension. I appreciate I can't adjust the suspension myself as the car is meant to do that automatically.

I test drove an early X1 (it was called the 'Edition' of 'First Edition' or something like that) as that had the same engine as the one I wanted. The wheels were 19" with standard suspension. My own car at the time was a VW Tiguan R-Line on 20" wheels and I didn't notice any difference in the harshness of the ride.

While I like firm suspension, I hope the extra firmness of the 20" wheels on the new X1 are compensated by the adaptive suspension. If not, I will consider fitting 19" wheels to the car.

In OPs case, as FZ189 has said, I would look to fitting replacement aftermarket dampers and springs that would give a softer ride as I doubt going smaller wheels will help (if even possible) given car is already on 17" wheels. Problem is that changing the suspension may invalidate the warranty. Might be worth approaching independent BMW specialists as this type of issue has surely come up before on other BMW's and they may have identified BMW specific solutions.

Good luck.
Just following up on my earlier post. Picked up my M sport on 20" wheels yesterday. Took for a long run on a mixture of roads. Was expecting a harsh ride given the comments and to my surprise and pleasure, found the car very comfortable. I came from a VW Tiguan with adaptable suspension and 20" wheels and found the sport suspension set on that gave a very harsh ride as it crashed over bumps etc. I kept the Tiguan in normal suspension mode which was a great drive. I have to say, the X1 is better still in ride terms and has more confidence going into corners etc. No regrets moving to BMW - wish I'd done it sooner.

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      01-06-2024, 12:21 PM   #24
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Collected my car this week and agree with John27. I have had a lot of BMWs before but because of comments by others in reviews I was expecting issues with the ride, the lack of the idrive controller I have been used to and the stop start feature being annoying all being points of possible concern.

None of them have been an issue for me, the new X1 is a fantastic car leaps and bounds ahead of the old X1. BMWs are so well thought out and great cars to drive.

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      01-06-2024, 12:38 PM   #25
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Collected my car this week and agree with John27. I have had a lot of BMWs before but because of comments by others in reviews I was expecting issues with the ride, the lack of the idrive controller I have been used to and the stop start feature being annoying all being points of possible concern.

None of them have been an issue for me, the new X1 is a fantastic car leaps and bounds ahead of the old X1. BMWs are so well thought out and great cars to drive.
I agree, I think people are unaware of BMWs firm ride but sharp handling or have unrealistic ideas of how a smaller lower riding SUV will behave. If you’re coming from another brand (with the exception of Audi which have similar suspension set ups but SUV wise handle less nimbly) then you should definitely test drive if you’re after a softer ride. BMWs were not called the ultimate driving machine for nothing Whilst that doesn’t really reder to their SUVs in quite the same way they still err to that side over outright comfort. I think the balance of comfort and handling great, but I don’t often encounter poor condition roads where I drive.

Lack of idrive and stop start are not an issue for me either, you adjust quickly if you’re willing to, and if you’re not willing to then…better get used to keeping an older car!
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      01-06-2024, 01:56 PM   #26
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BMWs were not called the ultimate driving machine for nothing Whilst that doesn’t really reder to their SUVs in quite the same way they still err to that side over outright comfort. I think the balance of comfort and handling great
couldn't agree more with this, the BMW Brand has always been more function over form if you will. It's prided itself on being a luxury Sports car brand for decades. Which has always kind of been the marquis comparison to MB in the "Coke vs Pepsi" debate. Similar products, different branding, different focuses on things.

if you are thinking of buying a BMW with the expectation that you'll get this cloudy plush ride, then you are looking at the wrong manufacturer, and should look at Mercedes or Range rover, or Cadillac instead.
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You have done the main thing of checking tyre pressures. Not sure what suspension the X1 sport comes with to know how stiff it is. None of the X1 models have adaptive suspension so any modes won’t change the ride, throttle and steering yes ride no.

Hopefully you will get used to it, having drive an X-like and M-sport the XL is the best compromise by far, the MSport is firmer and less compliant, never seen a comparison to the sport.

Other than changing the suspension to something else not much to suggest as above you might get used to it over time.
In NA, all variations of the X1 have the MSport suspension.
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      01-07-2024, 06:24 PM   #28
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In NA, all variations of the X1 have the MSport suspension.
not sure about the 2024...

on the U.S. 2023 X1, M Sport suspension("fake" adaptive, not user-adjustable) came only with the M Sport package. However, it could be deleted and the buyer would get $500 off and the standard suspension.

X1 with X-Line could not be ordered with M Sport suspension and came with standard suspension.
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      01-07-2024, 06:59 PM   #29
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I recently had delivery of my brand new X1 Sport (not M Sport) 2.0 Petrol Mild Hybrid with 17" wheels and Veganza sport seats. I can feel every bump and pothole in the road and the ride is very firm / bumpy.
I have reduced the tyre pressure to the recommended 2.4/2.4
I use Personal Mode all the time assuming that it will give the most comfortable ride.
But, no improvement.
Could someone kindly advise me is there anything else I can do to get a more comfortable ride in the local roads please? I have had it for exactly a month now and it's quite frustrating. Thanks
This is an extremely remote possibility, but there was some discussion in earlier threads about making sure the shipping blocks were removed from the car. I don't think this was ever confirmed to be an issue in an X1 on this forum, but wanted to make sure you had the info.
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This is an extremely remote possibility, but there was some discussion in earlier threads about making sure the shipping blocks were removed from the car. I don't think this was ever confirmed to be an issue in an X1 on this forum, but wanted to make sure you had the info.
What does this mean, can you elaborate?
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What does this mean, can you elaborate?
In a lot of cases, when a brand new car is being shipped and transported to the dealership, there are shipping blocks, also known as suspension limiters. These are installed in the suspension to limit movement and are supposed to be removed as part of the PDI (pre delivery inspection), but very occasionally are overlooked and delivered to the customers with them still left in. Leaving them in can cause the ride to feel stiff and can actually be dangerous to the driver.
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What does this mean, can you elaborate?
When a car is shipped some put blocks into the suspension to stop them bouncing around so much. In very rare circumstances some forget to remove them, which can lead to higher ride and very stiff suspension. But not sure they do this no the X1.
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Going over even a small pothole make a big sound, is it normal?
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      01-09-2024, 03:09 AM   #34
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Going over even a small pothole make a big sound, is it normal?
No the car rides pretty quietly to be honest so no a little pothole doesn't make a big sound, well not from my view of the car anyway.
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      01-09-2024, 06:09 AM   #35
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No the car rides pretty quietly to be honest so no a little pothole doesn't make a big sound, well not from my view of the car anyway.
I agree. Pretty quiet especially when compared to my previous cars.
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I agree. Pretty quiet especially when compared to my previous cars.
Were your previous cars also BMW?
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Were your previous cars also BMW?
I've had 3 Lexus SUVs in the past and my current X1's cabin is pretty quiet, even by Lexus standards. Engine and exhaust are obviously not as quiet and smooth as a Lexus.
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Were your previous cars also BMW?
No, this is the first BMW I've owned (I've driven BMWs over the years). My last two cars were both Mk2 VW Tiguans. Both had adaptive suspension with one on 19" wheels and the other, on 20" wheels.
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Coming from a 23 x-line to a 24 Msport, I have to say that the Msport is a much better and comfortable ride than the xline. I had 20 inch wheels on both cars and they were pretty much specd the same. I was really nervous about Msport suspension but it actually feels like it handles much better than the x-line! It's softer, but it's not harsh at all! When I would go over speed bumps in the xline, it felt like I was slamming into a pothole sometimes, but in the Msport it feels pretty smooth. Not sure how to describe it. It's definitely stiff but in a better way? And less body roll! Also side note, I completely hated the alcantara sport seats, but these veganza sports seats are even more comfortable than the xline regular seats!!
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The Msport set up should definitely handle better than the Xline, and be sharper and more precise, but am very surprised to hear it is “softer”! Seems unlikely
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maybe softer isn't the word? But when I go over pot holes and speed bumps it doesn't feel like I'm smashing into the gravel like it did in the xline so that's what was surprising to me.
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Ride is pretty smooth

I find the X1 to have a pretty comfortable and quiet ride compared to the two G20 330Xi M Sports I had prior. My wife and I used to grit our teeth when driving over railroad tracks or rough roads. The X1, while not luxurious or floaty, is much better.
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Coming from a 23 x-line to a 24 Msport, I have to say that the Msport is a much better and comfortable ride than the xline. I had 20 inch wheels on both cars and they were pretty much specd the same. I was really nervous about Msport suspension but it actually feels like it handles much better than the x-line! It's softer, but it's not harsh at all! When I would go over speed bumps in the xline, it felt like I was slamming into a pothole sometimes, but in the Msport it feels pretty smooth. Not sure how to describe it. It's definitely stiff but in a better way? And less body roll! Also side note, I completely hated the alcantara sport seats, but these veganza sports seats are even more comfortable than the xline regular seats!!
Exactly this, I've xline and it definitely feels like slamming into some potholes, thought it was too stiff of a ride and wanted to get a confirmation from someone. My next ride will probably be a one with adaptive suspension.
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Exactly this, I've xline and it definitely feels like slamming into some potholes, thought it was too stiff of a ride and wanted to get a confirmation from someone. My next ride will probably be a one with adaptive suspension.
while I do drive to Canada sometimes, my travels are usually limited to Windsor, Toronto and Montreal. The roads in those places seem fine to me. But I guess many parts of Canada have lots of potholes due to the cold weather.

then I again, I drove to New York City and Newark a few times. That area has some of the worst roads on the East Coast. I didn't feel that my X1 with the M Sport Adaptive(Fake) suspension was too firm. Although that's probably due to the 18" tires.
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