[x86]

I'm a bit concerned about the harsh ride, and was researching tires installed on my vehicle.

It looks like tires that came with my 2023 X1 (Continental ProContact™ GX) are run flat tires. I thought the X1 came with non run flat tires when I purchased it. At least that's what the configurator on BMW's website said. Also, I have a spare tire in the trunk.

Could this be a production error? Did anyone else have similar issue?

Whom should I talk to if I want to replace them with run flat tires?
Could you please give me some advice?

[jejupods]

Check your order confirmation. Mine states clearly on my order that it's for Non-RFT tires. I'd bring it up with your dealer and get them to fix it, if this is the case - one of the upsides of the X1 is the non run flats, so I'm going to be annoyed if they try to sneak them onto mine lol.

There was another poster here a while ago saying they got RFT's on their X1, but I can't find the post and I'm not sure what (if any) outcome there was.

[tgmorris99]

I've got the same tires on mine and the order clearly calls out "all-season non-run-flat tires" so I'll check on Friday when we go in for our post delivery follow up. This is on 19" wheel BTW.

[FlashMonkey929]

So I have the Continental ProContact GX tires in 225/55 R18 on my X1, and they are non-runflat. There is a similar model of tire from Continental called the ProContact GX SSR that IS a run flat tire. I’m almost positive that mike are not run flat tires, especially with how easy I see the sidewall flexing. There are also no markings to indicate on the tire that it’s a run flat.

[FlashMonkey929]

Originally Posted by jejupods

Check your order confirmation. Mine states clearly on my order that it's for Non-RFT tires. I'd bring it up with your dealer and get them to fix it, if this is the case - one of the upsides of the X1 is the non run flats, so I'm going to be annoyed if they try to sneak them onto mine lol.

There was another poster here a while ago saying they got RFT's on their X1, but I can't find the post and I'm not sure what (if any) outcome there was.

I believe that poster who said they had run flat tires was in another country where they are still offered.

[x86]

Originally Posted by FlashMonkey929

So I have the Continental ProContact GX tires in 225/55 R18 on my X1, and they are non-runflat. There is a similar model of tire from Continental called the ProContact GX SSR that IS a run flat tire. I’m almost positive that mike are not run flat tires, especially with how easy I see the sidewall flexing. There are also no markings to indicate on the tire that it’s a run flat.

Mine are 245/45 R19, and there is no "SSR" label anywhere on the tire.

[jam_80s]

While there is no industry standard code, there are different letters used by manufacturers to signify a run flat tyre. These are as follows:
Bridgestone run flat tyres – ROF or RFT or RSC
Continental run flat tyres – SSR
Dunlop run flat tyres – DSST or ROF
Goodyear run flat tyres – EMT or ROF
Michelin run flat tyres – ZP

[tgmorris99]

Based on everything I've seen on the Continental site the plain GX tires (vs. the GX SSR) are non-run-flats. There was even a question posted regarding the 2 versions and the answer said not to mix the 2.

As far as the harsh ride goes, be sure to check your pressures as mine were a bit over-inflated by the dealer. However, even after adjusting the pressure the ride is still on what I'd call the firm side.

[FlashMonkey929]

Originally Posted by x86

Mine are 245/45 R19, and there is no "SSR" label anywhere on the tire.

I’m going to say you don’t have run flat tires and you’re just feeling the suspension.

[SpaceSilverX1]

Originally Posted by FlashMonkey929

I’m going to say you don’t have run flat tires and you’re just feeling the suspension.

My X1 with M Sport suspension have Pirelli P Zero All Season 225/55/18 tires.

The ride is noticeably "harsher" than the X-Line standard suspension with 19-inch Continental all season tires on the X1 demo car at the dealership.

Since 18-inch tires are usually more comfortable than 19-inch tires, I also assume that the "harshness" that I'm feeling can be attributed to the M Sport suspension. That's only compounded by the very bad roads in my area, which they still have not fixed after years.

Somehow it's so bad that the BMW navigation maps frequently have pop-up messages that warn me about uneven road surface ahead.

However, just to be clear, I'm not really that bothered by this harshness. My other car had 225/40/18 tires so I'm used to it by now.

[FlashMonkey929]

Originally Posted by SpaceSilverX1

My X1 with M Sport suspension have Pirelli P Zero All Season 225/55/18 tires.

The ride is noticeably "harsher" than the X-Line standard suspension with 19-inch Continental all season tires on the X1 demo car at the dealership.

Since 18-inch tires are usually more comfortable than 19-inch tires, I also assume that the "harshness" that I'm feeling can be attributed to the M Sport suspension. That's only compounded by the very bad roads in my area, which they still have not fixed after years.

Somehow it's so bad that the BMW navigation maps frequently have pop-up messages that warn me about uneven road surface ahead.

However, just to be clear, I'm not really that bothered by this harshness. My other car had 225/40/18 tires so I'm used to it by now.

I think a lot of people who are new to the brand are surprised at how stiff the BMW suspensions typically are, especially if coming from Lexus and Mercedes. FWIW, it feels no stiffer than my previous 3 BMWs, though the shorter wheelbase and higher cabin can make for some interesting transitions over uneven surfaces occasionally.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by SpaceSilverX1

Somehow it's so bad that the BMW navigation maps frequently have pop-up messages that warn me about uneven road surface ahead.

That has nothing to do with the car sensing road conditions. That's based on data in the nav system, like RR crossings and speed humps. It will tell you there's an "uneven surface" even on a road you've never been on before.

[x86]

Originally Posted by FlashMonkey929

I’m going to say you don’t have run flat tires and you’re just feeling the suspension.

That could be the case, but I'm still concerned as it's clearly marked as "run flat" on Continental's website: https://continentaltire.com/tires/procontact-gx

[FlashMonkey929]

Originally Posted by x86

That could be the case, but I'm still concerned as it's clearly marked as "run flat" on Continental's website: https://continentaltire.com/tires/procontact-gx

I’m reasonably sure that it’s listed that way because it’s available in run flat as well as standard. Going through their website there doesn’t seem to be any tires listed as run flat specifically, and it’s kind of a shit website anyway. All other tire sites I checked seem to confirm that only the SSR variant is run flat. And like I said, I have the same tires in 18” and mine definitely aren’t run flats.

[tgmorris99]

I just got done with a chat session with Continental and they confirmed that the tires without the SSR designation are non-run-flat.

Tom Morris: Hi. On the website the ProContact GX is listed as a run-flat tire. BMW says it is a non-run-flat tire. Which is correct?

Jane: Great question! When a tire is offered in a run-flat option, it may also be offered in a non run-flat option as well. The best way to know whether your specific tire is run flat or non run flat is to either look at the sidewall of your tire - if you see letters SSR - it is a runflat tire, Self Supporting Runflat.

Tom Morris: OK. So the plain ProContact GX (without the SSR designation) is a non-run-flat version. Is that what you mean?

Jane: Yes, that is right. You may have the option to purchase either a SSR or a non SSR tire - depending upon the size needed.

[SpaceSilverX1]

Originally Posted by x86

That could be the case, but I'm still concerned as it's clearly marked as "run flat" on Continental's website: https://continentaltire.com/tires/procontact-gx

Your Continentals are not run-flat tires, unless you see the SSR designation on the sidewall.

Do you have the regular suspension or the M Sport suspension?

[SAS X1]

I have the same question. I picked up my X1 on 4/21. During the up-sell at the dealership, I was told that the tire warranty was particularly important because I had run-flat tires. I said I didn't think that they were, and that my order specs indicated they were non-run-flat. The guy left for a few minutes, came back, and said that yes, they were run-flat. I let the issue drop at the time.

Fast forward a few weeks and I still think the guy was wrong. Mine are Continental EcoContact 6Q 245/40 R20. No sign of SSR anywhere. I also have a spare.

I guess my best bet is to confirm with Continental but it's kind of annoying that my dealership may be passing on bad information.

As an aside, I don't have any issues with ride quality. Just the bad info/labeling/identification on the tires.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by SAS X1

I have the same question. I picked up my X1 on 4/21. During the up-sell at the dealership, I was told that the tire warranty was particularly important because I had run-flat tires. I said I didn't think that they were, and that my order specs indicated they were non-run-flat. The guy left for a few minutes, came back, and said that yes, they were run-flat. I let the issue drop at the time.

Same thing happened to me in the F&I office, except that when I said "No, they are not RFTs", he back down and said "oops". Your guy was uninformed - shocker.

You don't have to confirm with Continental. Just look at your tires, and if they don't say "SSR" like the pic above (or "RFT", or "ZP"), then they aren't RFTs.

[SpaceSilverX1]

Originally Posted by tex2670

Same thing happened to me in the F&I office, except that when I said "No, they are not RFTs", he back down and said "oops". Your guy was uninformed - shocker.

You don't have to confirm with Continental. Just look at your tires, and if they don't say "SSR" like the pic above (or "RFT", or "ZP"), then they aren't RFTs.

do car dealers still have F&I office? none of the dealers that I've dealt with during the last 3 or 4 car purchases handled the "I"(insurance) part anymore... always making me handle the insurance part on my own prior to arriving at the dealership for delivery.

of course, the "financing" part is 85% upsell. I was also given the sales presentation for 30 minutes. He also said that RFT tires were expensive and that I should at least buy that coverage. When I pointed out that the current X1 came with non-RFT, he admitted that he knew that, but was only reading from a script in his mind.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by SpaceSilverX1

do car dealers still have F&I office? none of the dealers that I've dealt with during the last 3 or 4 car purchases handled the "I"(insurance) part anymore... always making me handle the insurance part on my own prior to arriving at the dealership for delivery.

of course, the "financing" part is 85% upsell. I was also given the sales presentation for 30 minutes. He also said that RFT tires were expensive and that I should at least buy that coverage. When I pointed out that the current X1 came with non-RFT, he admitted that he knew that, but was only reading from a script in his mind.

Maybe they don't call it F&I anymore, but they 100% have finance people. They try and sell you extended warranty, ceramic shield, wheel & tire, etching, and a bunch of other garbage that they make a ton of $$ off of.

By the way, they scared me into getting wheel & tire coverage on my 3-Series with RFTs. Even with 3 nails, I still came out behind....

[tareknet89]

so is the ride that harsh on X1?

[SpaceSilverX1]

Originally Posted by tareknet89

so is the ride that harsh on X1?

I've only been driving my new X1 for 14 days, but my guess is that the M Sport suspension on my X1 is the reason that the suspension feels stiff.(which is a good thing, obviously) I'm used to cars with stiffer and sometimes lowered suspension, so I don't really consider it to be "harsh"...

Having said that, I think the P Zero All Season 18-inch tires are harder than other 18-inch all season tires such as Hankook Continental.(but softer than the Bridgestones)