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      06-05-2022, 04:01 PM   #89
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Transitional to what?
Hydrotic Fuel cell is one among others.
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      06-05-2022, 04:41 PM   #90
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It was never coming to the US the first year…. Where have you been?
You're wrong. Up until a couple of months ago, the US model was scheduled to start production in November 2022 with sales in January-February 2023. A month ago, BMW Blog reported "may not come to the US, at least not right away". Right now, BMW official sources are saying something like "currently have no plans". While I'm saying that at some point in the last 2 months BMW did make new plans: the plans not to offer that model at all.
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      06-05-2022, 04:48 PM   #91
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Hydrotic Fuel cell is one among others.
Do you mean hydrogen?

That technology is a dead end, mostly due to the high cost of hydrogen production and low efficiency of the reaction. Compare the MPGe ratings of the existing FCVs and similar BEVs.
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      06-05-2022, 06:09 PM   #92
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It was never coming to the US the first year…. Where have you been?
You're wrong. Up until a couple of months ago, the US model was scheduled to start production in November 2022 with sales in January-February 2023. A month ago, BMW Blog reported "may not come to the US, at least not right away". Right now, BMW official sources are saying something like "currently have no plans". While I'm saying that at some point in the last 2 months BMW did make new plans: the plans not to offer that model at all.
BMWBlog is always referring to your posts on Bimmerpost ynguldyn. :

Great article in the WSJ recently how the writer spent more time charging her EV on a 4 day road than sleeping. https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-rente...ng-11654268401
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BMW boss Zipse recently said again that they would like to continue producing and selling vehicles with ICE for a long time. Probably simply because too much investment has not yet been recouped and too rapid job cuts in this area would be politically sensitive in the region.
Here in Europe, however, with the constantly tightening CO2 limits and high penalties, they have no choice and must sell more and more pure EVs.
You in the US, on the other hand, have fallen far behind in terms of environmental developments and legislation thanks to Trump. So an ideal market to make some money out of the old technology. I think it's that simple.
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BMWBlog is always referring to your posts on Bimmerpost ynguldyn. :
You're undervaluing Horatiu. He has good human sources. I have good non-human sources. We complement each other.
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BMW boss Zipse recently said again that they would like to continue producing and selling vehicles with ICE for a long time. Probably simply because too much investment has not yet been recouped and too rapid job cuts in this area would be politically sensitive in the region.
Here in Europe, however, with the constantly tightening CO2 limits and high penalties, they have no choice and must sell more and more pure EVs.
You in the US, on the other hand, have fallen far behind in terms of environmental developments and legislation thanks to Trump. So an ideal market to make some money out of the old technology. I think it's that simple.
Americans can't allow the thought that other countries can do some things better. They get that stupid exceptionalism idea drilled into them by everyone, from parents to schools to the media, and it makes them blind to real problems. Especially those that benefit from government intervention (read: infrastructure).
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Americans can't allow the thought that other countries can do some things better. They get that stupid exceptionalism idea drilled into them by everyone, from parents to schools to the media, and it makes them blind to real problems. Especially those that benefit from government intervention (read: infrastructure).

lol @ your second attempt to talk shit. No one’s taking the bait. Move on
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lol @ your second attempt to talk shit. No one’s taking the bait. Move on
The fact that your first post in 2 months is this reply means you did take the bait.
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According from a friend a BMW, they were never planning on bringing the iX1 to the US because the range is equivalent to an i3 and at the price point it wouldn't sell.
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iX1

I heard the reason was because they didn't want to hurt the sales of the iX.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/03/16/bmw-ix1-us-market/
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I heard the reason was because they didn't want to hurt the sales of the iX.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/03/16/bmw-ix1-us-market/
considering ix1 and ix are completely different animals (size, price etc) I don't see how the ix1 could hurt sales of the ix. They aimed at different people/market.
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According from a friend a BMW, they were never planning on bringing the iX1 to the US because the range is equivalent to an i3 and at the price point it wouldn't sell.
20+ US iX1s built through the winter and early spring beg to differ.
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Battery Supply?

Makes sense. With a limited battery supply, it makes sense to prioritize units with the highest profit margin. Looks like BMW's U.S. suppler is looking at December as a battery production start date- as a best case scenario.

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Edit: ok X5 is the only PHEV SUV in U.S. from BMW. X3 PHEV isn't avail in U.S.
I'm sure you meant BMW proper but Mini Countryman SE also in US. As an owner I admit it's not for everyone but does exactly what need it to especially after stealing a few parts from the bin off its UKL2 stablemates F44 and F48. I'm glad to have it while BMW sorts itself out on "what we believe people want".

As I noted that in the other thread iX1 would have put another BMW in the garage when this i3 lease ends as the last of 4 i3's we have owned or leased among several other BMW's. (Anyone remember The Circuit?)

Early '23 timing was spot on too and am as excited as everyone else seems to be in the more reserved styling direction. Spent time with the iX and i4 and they are too big, costly, and lack what I value BMW for. For all of my early investment in the BMW i brand I never deemed worthy of a product survey or focus group invite.

ID.4 or xC40 Recharge here I come.
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That's too bad, I have owned MY17 i3 and traded in for MY18 i3s and needed another ev so was looking forward for the ix1 or ix3 but oh well…
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