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      Yesterday, 09:03 PM   #8339
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Even if you were motivated I don't think you could find data supporting your claim that death by EV fire is higher than death by ICE fire. ICE fires are already occurring at ten times the rate of EV fires. Unlikely deaths in those events would be higher for EVs.
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Even if you were motivated I don't think you could find data supporting your claim that death by EV fire is higher than death by ICE fire. ICE fires are already occurring at ten times the rate of EV fires. Unlikely deaths in those events would be higher for EVs.
Nice job ignoring the perfectly clear and understandable data I posted that you have been attempting to nay nay since I posted it. The ICE fire data bupkis has already been debunked when corrected. Nothing like a electric user in full denial. Funny how it's about the science until the science says you ride around in a car more likely to kill you by fire than a 1971 shitbox Pinto.
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Even if you were motivated I don't think you could find data supporting your claim that death by EV fire is higher than death by ICE fire. ICE fires are already occurring at ten times the rate of EV fires. Unlikely deaths in those events would be higher for EVs.
Pay attention, you might learn something.

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There are many articles showing that it is more expensive to insure EV's than it is similar ICE vehicles. No this is not due to all the EV fires or all the dead EV drivers, it due to the average loss's as determined by insurance actuarial tables. Insurance companies don't give a dam about YouTube fire videos. It's all about the loss pay outs and today's EV is more likely to be a total write off than a repairable wreck.

Are High Insurance Premiums Holding EVs Back?
May 8, 2024
But some consumers may be overestimating their potential savings. According to one analysis, while insurance for EVs varies a lot by make, EVs still cost around 20% more to insure in 2024 than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles do.
While EV price tags are dropping, electric vehicles still have higher sales prices in general than ICE vehicles, which makes them more expensive to replace after accidents and more costly to insure. Between September 2022 and September 2023, the average price paid for EVs fell from $65,000 to $50,683, but that was still higher than the average price for all new vehicles ($47,899).

Repairs
EVs are more expensive to repair than ICE vehicles, for a handful of reasons. For starters, the replacement parts market hasn't kept pace with EV growth. There are also fewer repair shops and technicians qualified to work on EVs than on gas-powered cars. So parts cost around 25% more, and labor is more expensive, too. In 2023, EV repairs cost $1,322 more than ICE repairs on average.
On top of that, EVs have a major battery problem. While the battery in an EV accounts for the majority of the vehicle's value, it's more vulnerable to damage than the battery in an ICE vehicle and more expensive and dangerous to repair. The job can require a specialist.
EV battery issues are especially complex when it comes to Teslas, because some models have the battery parts glued together and sealed into the car, rendering them difficult to inspect and sometimes impossible to replace.
In 2023, the cost to replace an EV battery ran anywhere from $4,000 to $20,000, not including a labor bill that could be as high as $2,000. So even for an EV with minimal battery damage, a write-off could be more cost-effective.
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