X5 vs ML

fl335i · 06-26-2014, 12:14 PM

Yes, here we go. I'm looking for a CPO '12. The ML would be the current new model. the X5 would be the older model. the X5 (even the new 13+) are not safety rated like the ML's are. No small overlap etc. Very poor testing records from what I can see vs the ML. WHY? Why is the X5 not IIHS and Safecar.gov rated like the ML? How do they even get away with that? The ML had a awesome interior. It's the family rig, so... can't justify buying a unsafe car for more money and it's an older model. WTF BMW?

twelve535i · 06-26-2014, 12:52 PM

Sounds like you've made up your mind.

fl335i · 06-26-2014, 01:03 PM

^no. I want to know why the X5 is not safety rated! ???? I like the older X5 body better. and I rather have the last year vs the first year of a platform. Generally speaking less issues and less TSB's/Recalls. I personally am rooting for the '12 X5 with the N55! White on black. But what's the scoop on the safety ratings?

BEM-S4 · 06-26-2014, 02:09 PM

Not to jump topics but if you're in the SUV market at least check out a Macan. I LOVE mine.

pukicabuki · 06-26-2014, 02:52 PM

Ma can is quite a bit smaller than either the X or the ML.

My wife had a 2007 ML500 and it was great. If you go the ML route, get one with the air suspension.

BEM-S4 · 06-26-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pukicabuki

Ma can is quite a bit smaller than either the X or the ML.

My wife had a 2007 ML500 and it was great. If you go the ML route, get one with the air suspension.

Didn't realize as I haven't really looked deeply into either. Remember them being smaller but that was years ago that I looked.

fl335i · 06-26-2014, 02:54 PM

Macan not really the size and it's the VW product. EEERRRRRRR buzzer. Try again. I hate VW. The Lincoln MKX was on our list, but again, older platform, crappy touch screen dash and not as safe as the ML. Volvo XC90, but it's from 2003 really. The ML seems to be the best option, but I'm trying to give the X5 a chance here.

Longboarder · 06-26-2014, 03:16 PM

A couple days ago our 2013 X5 was stopped at a light and some bloke in a Lexus plowed into it at 30mph. I knew the X5 wasn't crash rated when I bought it and I'm now thankful I trusted BMW as a brand and it didn't disappoint!

BEM-S4 · 06-26-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fl335i

Macan not really the size and it's the VW product. EEERRRRRRR buzzer. Try again. I hate VW. The Lincoln MKX was on our list, but again, older platform, crappy touch screen dash and not as safe as the ML. Volvo XC90, but it's from 2003 really. The ML seems to be the best option, but I'm trying to give the X5 a chance here.

Just coming from a XC60 R the Macan is light years better. If you need bigger size that's a different story but I wouldn't dismiss it for being a VW. You could also scratch the Lambos, Veyrons and a host of other cars off the list for the same reason.

Wah · 06-26-2014, 05:02 PM

The ride between the two are totally different. One is soft and cushy, the other is stiff and sporty. I'd be sure to take that into account.

dubsesd · 06-26-2014, 05:25 PM

Benz looks like a van to me. The X5 on the other hand look aggressive and sporty. I have a 35d and very happy with it.

DieGrüneHölle · 06-26-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Just coming from a XC60 R the Macan is light years better. If you need bigger size that's a different story but I wouldn't dismiss it for being a VW. You could also scratch the Lambos, Veyrons and a host of other cars off the list for the same reason.

Yup, Macan is the best suv sold. Isn't much smaller than a X5. Macan is 6in shorter, but is actually wider than the X5.

And to simplify the Macan by calling it a VW product is just ill informed.

BEM-S4 · 06-26-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Just coming from a XC60 R the Macan is light years better. If you need bigger size that's a different story but I wouldn't dismiss it for being a VW. You could also scratch the Lambos, Veyrons and a host of other cars off the list for the same reason.

Yup, Macan is the best suv sold. Isn't much smaller than a X5. Macan is 6in shorter, but is actually wider than the X5.

And to simplify the Macan by calling it a VW product is just ill informed.

I'm not a P-car nut by any stretch of the imagination, but honestly if I could only have one car car that would probably be it. Is it the best thing out there for any one attribute? Probably not. Doesn't handle like a cayman, not as big as a Q7, little on the expensive side etc. But honestly it does just about everything exceptionally well.

fl335i · 06-27-2014, 03:30 PM

Again, question at hand is why or how is the X5 not crash rated? That just seems nuts.

MisterSkiMask · 06-27-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fl335i

Yes, here we go. I'm looking for a CPO '12. The ML would be the current new model. the X5 would be the older model. the X5 (even the new 13+) are not safety rated like the ML's are. No small overlap etc. Very poor testing records from what I can see vs the ML. WHY? Why is the X5 not IIHS and Safecar.gov rated like the ML? How do they even get away with that? The ML had a awesome interior. It's the family rig, so... can't justify buying a unsafe car for more money and it's an older model. WTF BMW?

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/bmw/x5/2007

barcelona · 06-27-2014, 08:33 PM

2012 ML is 5 star Euro rating.

http://www.euroncap.com/results/merc.../2012/455.aspx

Top rating, for security minded s/be top choice. Enjoy with confidence.

fl335i · 06-29-2014, 10:54 AM

yeah... not sure why BMW wouldn't want their X5 IIHS, Safecar.gov and NCAP rated. Just seems moronic in today's informed consumer. Oh well, I like BMW, but my family's safety is ranked higher than BMW loyalty. ML it is with HID's and the options we want. No more base model, strip down Merc's. Learned that lesson with the '08 C300.

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fl335i Captain 161 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	X5 vs ML Yes, here we go. I'm looking for a CPO '12. The ML would be the current new model. the X5 would be the older model. the X5 (even the new 13+) are not safety rated like the ML's are. No small overlap etc. Very poor testing records from what I can see vs the ML. WHY? Why is the X5 not IIHS and Safecar.gov rated like the ML? How do they even get away with that? The ML had a awesome interior. It's the family rig, so... can't justify buying a unsafe car for more money and it's an older model. WTF BMW? __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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fl335i Captain 161 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	^no. I want to know why the X5 is not safety rated! ???? I like the older X5 body better. and I rather have the last year vs the first year of a platform. Generally speaking less issues and less TSB's/Recalls. I personally am rooting for the '12 X5 with the N55! White on black. But what's the scoop on the safety ratings? __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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BEM-S4 Major General 4543 Rep 8,942 Posts Drives: Dinan M235, Dinan Sport Wagon Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (5)	Not to jump topics but if you're in the SUV market at least check out a Macan. I LOVE mine. __________________ 2022 Macan S 2016 F31 328i xDrive Sport Wagon 2006 E46 330ci ZHP Convertible
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pukicabuki Lieutenant 176 Rep 528 Posts Drives: something with 4 wheels Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Ma can is quite a bit smaller than either the X or the ML. My wife had a 2007 ML500 and it was great. If you go the ML route, get one with the air suspension.
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fl335i Captain 161 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	Macan not really the size and it's the VW product. EEERRRRRRR buzzer. Try again. I hate VW. The Lincoln MKX was on our list, but again, older platform, crappy touch screen dash and not as safe as the ML. Volvo XC90, but it's from 2003 really. The ML seems to be the best option, but I'm trying to give the X5 a chance here. __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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dubsesd #dubspec 7010 Rep 5,286 Posts Drives: G05 X5/ 2016 F80 M3 INDVL Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (2)	Benz looks like a van to me. The X5 on the other hand look aggressive and sporty. I have a 35d and very happy with it. __________________ LCI ///F80 M3 Individual Atlantis Metallic / Black Full / Carbon Cermics / 6MT MPE / M Performance & Carbon package / KW v3 / 20" HRE R101LW / 20" HRE 527s / Michelin PSS / 20% tint / 3d Design / Streckenn splitters / OEM GTS hood / EAS Carbon seatbacks / Carbon RKP sideskirt / Bootmod3 / M Performance Tri color alcantara / AWE S Flow instagram: @ dubsesd
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fl335i Captain 161 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	Again, question at hand is why or how is the X5 not crash rated? That just seems nuts. __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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barcelona Major 273 Rep 1,418 Posts Drives: X Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	2012 ML is 5 star Euro rating. http://www.euroncap.com/results/merc.../2012/455.aspx Top rating, for security minded s/be top choice. Enjoy with confidence.
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fl335i Captain 161 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	yeah... not sure why BMW wouldn't want their X5 IIHS, Safecar.gov and NCAP rated. Just seems moronic in today's informed consumer. Oh well, I like BMW, but my family's safety is ranked higher than BMW loyalty. ML it is with HID's and the options we want. No more base model, strip down Merc's. Learned that lesson with the '08 C300. __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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