Just ordered Stage 2 fuel-it! WOOT!

Eat.Sleep.Race · 08-08-2014, 11:49 AM

Finally got my car full bolt on, and tried running 30-35%e85 and it ran so much faster for a few hits but i think it was too much concentration and was hitting over boost without e85 back end. Anywho i def want to be able to run BMS back end E85 flash on Map 7 so got the stage 2 fuel it kit and was wondering who else is running them, they're thoughts, HP gains, any info!!

Anyone running the Fuel it stage 2 drop in kit? Looks easy to install, any tips or tricks? Feel free to add them.

How much harder is this thing gonna pull?

'___' · 08-08-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race

Finally got my car full bolt on, and tried running 30-35%e85 and it ran so much faster for a few hits but i think it was too much concentration and was hitting over boost without e85 back end. Anywho i def want to be able to run BMS back end E85 flash on Map 7 so got the stage 2 fuel it kit and was wondering who else is running them, they're thoughts, HP gains, any info!!

Anyone running the Fuel it stage 2 drop in kit? Looks easy to install, any tips or tricks? Feel free to add them.

How much harder is this thing gonna pull?

Who makes the stage 2 fuel it kit? Do you have a link handy?

Eat.Sleep.Race · 08-08-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by '___'

Who makes the stage 2 fuel it kit? Do you have a link handy?

Fuel-it.biz

From reviews on here it's the best kit for the money, allows for close to straight e85 to be ran safely. Pump has a warranty as well!

'___' · 08-08-2014, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race

Fuel-it.biz

From reviews on here it's the best kit for the money, allows for close to straight e85 to be ran safely. Pump has a warranty as well!

Ah! That's SteveAZ's site. ok, I've read nothing but good reviews on his product and service so far.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-08-2014, 12:29 PM

I heard a lot of good things about that kit

PR3CI5N · 08-08-2014, 12:58 PM

The stage 2 pump will allow for high Ethanol concentrations but that doesn't mean your HPFP will agree. Usually anything over E70 the HPFP starts to take a dive. Stick to around E60 which will be 100oct and enough to run map 7 or map 3 with 65-75add (65add is basically map 7 but 75add peaks at 19.5psi). Great thing about map 3 is you can switch your additive on the fly so you can run 65add daily then if you need a little extra power you can switch to 75add. However, not all cars will be able to hit the 65-75add psi marks so log and post them up.

AMERICUS · 08-08-2014, 01:07 PM

Is there a 100% ethanol solution other than the PTF's new hardware?

Ingeniator · 08-08-2014, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AMERICUS

Is there a 100% ethanol solution other than the PTF's new hardware?

On the actual fuelling side I assume not the supply side? @07Tundra and @SteveAZ both offer 100%e85 capable lp side supply pumps. Motiv(PTF) has a new drop in bucket capable of 100%e85 supply and fuelling when paired with the port injection kit. Vargas has the Shotgun hpfp kits dropping this fall for 100%e85 capable fuelling when paired with a good lpfp option.

tc535i · 08-08-2014, 04:25 PM

Love my pump, it's tricky getting everything hooked up if you have big hands but stick with it!

Also, run your tank way down first. Half tank was manageable but I really wished I'd driven down near empty.

AMERICUS · 08-08-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

On the actual fuelling side I assume not the supply side? @07Tundra and @SteveAZ both offer 100%e85 capable lp side supply pumps. Motiv(PTF) has a new drop in bucket capable of 100%e85 supply and fuelling when paired with the port injection kit. Vargas has the Shotgun hpfp kits dropping this fall for 100%e85 capable fuelling when paired with a good lpfp option.

Yeah I know we are covered on the LPF side, but my understanding was even with the LPF covered, the HPFP couldn't handle 100% e85. PTF is really just the same as SteveAZ and 07Tundra right? Their port injection, while AWESOME, is a little out of question since it needs a standalone to run and is really only valuable on singles I feel like. Maybe an assumption...

Ingeniator · 08-08-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AMERICUS

Yeah I know we are covered on the LPF side, but my understanding was even with the LPF covered, the HPFP couldn't handle 100% e85. PTF is really just the same as SteveAZ and 07Tundra right? Their port injection, while AWESOME, is a little out of question since it needs a standalone to run and is really only valuable on singles I feel like. Maybe an assumption...

If you don't want to run port injection the the Vargas shotgun kits are the only option. A double barrel kit should support most singles so just the single barrel addon kit should be good if your talking hybrid turbos.

AMERICUS · 08-09-2014, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

If you don't want to run port injection the the Vargas shotgun kits are the only option. A double barrel kit should support most singles so just the single barrel addon kit should be good if your talking hybrid turbos.

Ahh yeah that's right. Forgot about the Vargas option on HPFP. Thanks Ingeniator!

Stucks · 08-09-2014, 04:18 PM

I ran the bms back end e85 flash and map 7 using a walbro 455 lph e85 pump for over a year. made me the fastest 335i in this area lol. just log and make sure your hpfp is up to the task! Should be fine!

tc535i · 08-09-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

I ran the bms back end e85 flash and map 7 using a walbro 455 lph e85 pump for over a year. made me the fastest 335i in this area lol. just log and make sure your hpfp is up to the task! Should be fine!

Put down 420whp /440wtq with bms pump flash, walbro 450, e50 mix and dp/ic/cp

Stucks · 08-09-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tc535i

Put down 420whp /440wtq with this setup, e50 and dp/ic/cp

Sounds about right. I put down 420whp and 457wtq.

Eat.Sleep.Race · 08-09-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

I ran the bms back end e85 flash and map 7 using a walbro 455 lph e85 pump for over a year. made me the fastest 335i in this area lol. just log and make sure your hpfp is up to the task! Should be fine!

Yea i will Log once installed, its the SteveAZ kit (Fuel-It) and will be here monday, i plan to run e50-e60 on map 7 and see how the logs look. I will be on BMS e85 back end.

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Originally Posted by Stucks

Sounds about right. I put down 420whp and 457wtq.

Can't wait to be at those numbers, I'm at 390/404 right now and this will be just the power level i want to be!

tc535i · 08-09-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

Sounds about right. I put down 420whp and 457wtq.

Sorry, I was on bms pump flash. I run 91 daily but wanted to go heavy for a dyno run.

F80M · 08-09-2014, 09:18 PM

Gonna be good! Let's us know how it is...

Eat.Sleep.Race · 08-10-2014, 07:44 PM

Will post all install pictures as well!

westchester335i · 08-10-2014, 08:23 PM

What's your mpg currently? How many miles per tank you get?

I'm interested in seeing how much the e85 would impact the mpg. Please note that as well

Bme30 · 08-10-2014, 08:55 PM

SteveAz is a great guy!! You will be very happy with his kits.

I run e60 with the inline 255 on jb4 map 7 and get 240-260 each tank in the city. I don't really see much highway time.

Im seeing about 17-18 mpg city driving.

Ingeniator · 08-10-2014, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bme30

SteveAz is a great guy!! You will be very happy with his kits.

I run e60 with the inline 255 on jb4 map 7 and get 240-260 each tank in the city. I don't really see much highway time.

Im seeing about 17-18 mpg city driving.

That is still pretty good. I get between 21/27. 27 Is a straight highway trip. I think I converted right we have a 16 gallon tank? I get about 700km a tank pure highway on 94.

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PR3CI5N need4speed 510 Rep 1,903 Posts Drives: 2010 E90 M 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Coast iTrader: (24)	The stage 2 pump will allow for high Ethanol concentrations but that doesn't mean your HPFP will agree. Usually anything over E70 the HPFP starts to take a dive. Stick to around E60 which will be 100oct and enough to run map 7 or map 3 with 65-75add (65add is basically map 7 but 75add peaks at 19.5psi). Great thing about map 3 is you can switch your additive on the fly so you can run 65add daily then if you need a little extra power you can switch to 75add. However, not all cars will be able to hit the 65-75add psi marks so log and post them up. __________________ N54
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