Chargepipe not covered by CPO warranty?

Rat_House · 08-12-2014, 09:28 AM

My chargepipe cracked this weekend after getting new plugs and oil change. I got it towed to the dealer and they are telling me that a sensor on the chargepipe is unplugged, therefore they arent warrantying it because it looks like someone unplugged it. They also are telling me that chargepipes arent a warrantable item. Does this make sense? I though cracked CP's were warranty items. The only reason I even went to the dealer was because my c-clip is non-existant.

Delta0311 · 08-12-2014, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rat_House

My chargepipe cracked this weekend after getting new plugs and oil change. I got it towed to the dealer and they are telling me that a sensor on the chargepipe is unplugged, therefore they arent warrantying it because it looks like someone unplugged it. They also are telling me that chargepipes arent a warrantable item. Does this make sense? I though cracked CP's were warranty items. The only reason I even went to the dealer was because my c-clip is non-existant.

They probably unplugged it while looking at the charge pipe. And what does the sensor have to do with the cheap ass plastic charge pipe cracking? As far as CPO goes I'm not 100% sure but it should be covered. Maybe other can chime in on that.

Rat_House · 08-12-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta0311

They probably unplugged it while looking at the charge pipe. And what does the sensor have to do with the cheap ass plastic charge pipe cracking? As far as CPO goes I'm not 100% sure but it should be covered. Maybe other can chime in on that.

thats pretty much what i said to my SA, they quoted $450 for the new CP

Does anyone else have any experience with a cracked CP under warranty?

BlackBB6 · 08-12-2014, 10:48 AM

Call and ask to talk to a manager or go to another dealer, charge pipes are covered and their reason for denying it is weak at best.

mg4734 · 08-12-2014, 10:49 AM

my car was out of warranty when mine broke, but the sensor was unplugged when the pipe cracked, it broke the clip for the sensor... That's horse shit from the stealership. should absolutely be covered.

Rat_House · 08-12-2014, 11:13 AM

Thanks guys, ill keep pushing them. In the case they dont cover it, does anyone have a c-clip laying around?

mg4734 · 08-12-2014, 11:22 AM

99% of the time it will be on your undertray somewhere. get an extendable magnet and a flashlight, they're really hard to come by if you cant find it. I don't have one

Hokie_BMW · 08-12-2014, 11:48 AM

Is this the c clip? Just found it on ecs http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ntake/ES39182/

Rat_House · 08-12-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mg4734

99% of the time it will be on your undertray somewhere. get an extendable magnet and a flashlight, they're really hard to come by if you cant find it. I don't have one

I actually watched it shoot out the front of the car and bounce down the highway. Lucky shot i guess lol

brewnami · 08-12-2014, 11:52 AM

The only sensor that attaches to the charge pipe is the MAP sensor... Wouldn't the car have some other issues if that wasn't plugged in?

At this point, I would just get a metal charge pipe and never worry about this problem again.

Rat_House · 08-12-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brewnami

The only sensor that attaches to the charge pipe is the MAP sensor... Wouldn't the car have some other issues if that wasn't plugged in?

At this point, I would just get a metal charge pipe and never worry about this problem again.

yup thats the plan, i am just trying to get a free cp and c-clip from the dealer first, so i can swap the aftermarket one out when i take it in for service.

mg4734 · 08-12-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokie_BMW

Is this the c clip? Just found it on ecs http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ntake/ES39182/

Unfortunately not, that is for the lower charge pipe. The one that connects the charge pipe to the throttle body is larger than that, and is only sold as part of the replacement OEM pipe.

mg4734 · 08-12-2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brewnami

The only sensor that attaches to the charge pipe is the MAP sensor... Wouldn't the car have some other issues if that wasn't plugged in?

At this point, I would just get a metal charge pipe and never worry about this problem again.

Yes, the car would have other issues with the MAP sensor unplugged. its pretty common that when the charge pipe breaks and shifts as a result, the clip for the sensor breaks and it comes unplugged. Happened when my pipe broke, and got a MAP sensor code.

Rat_House · 08-12-2014, 02:10 PM

I talked to them again and they said its going to be covered under "goodwill" thankfully. Its just annoying having to argue with them over stuff like this.

brewnami · 08-12-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mg4734

Yes, the car would have other issues with the MAP sensor unplugged. its pretty common that when the charge pipe breaks and shifts as a result, the clip for the sensor breaks and it comes unplugged. Happened when my pipe broke, and got a MAP sensor code.

Ah, ok, that's what I was thinking, but it sounds as though the dealer is trying to blame the fact that its unplugged for the actual crack... Shifty stealers trying everything to avoid giving away a cheap flimsy pipe that takes minutes to swap.

mg4734 · 08-12-2014, 02:40 PM

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Ah, ok, that's what I was thinking, but it sounds as though the dealer is trying to blame the fact that its unplugged for the actual crack... Shifty stealers trying everything to avoid giving away a cheap flimsy pipe that takes minutes to swap.

yes, I would say that's exactly what the dealership is trying to say. Or, that because the sensor is unplugged, they won't warranty it because they believe he unplugged it. But that's not how the pipe broke, and its impossible to unplug without taking the airbox off.

Op, glad they are covering it under goodwill. Doesn't make them right, but glad they are doing the work

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 08-12-2014, 03:04 PM

It's nice they covered it but it will still be prone to cracking again in the future. You should consider an upgrade like the VRSF CP with OEM connectors. For under $200 you really can't beat it for peace of mind.

Keep your new stock CP for a rainy day if you need to go back to dealer and want to remain stock, my .02.

bpdef29 · 08-19-2014, 07:39 PM

The same thing happened to me recently, and due to ridiculous OEM prices, I opted for the ER chargepipe with stock DV connection and haven't had a problem since. More durable too, especially if you're running a tune.

alexg212 · 08-19-2014, 11:10 PM

Same thing happened to me on my CPO. Charge pipe isn't covered, around $400 oem. Luckily, my go to bmw tech had a spare oem one lying around.

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Rat_House First Lieutenant 221 Rep 370 Posts Drives: M2 Comp, Gated R8, DatsunZ, mk Join Date: May 2013 Location: Stamford, CT iTrader: (2)	Chargepipe not covered by CPO warranty? My chargepipe cracked this weekend after getting new plugs and oil change. I got it towed to the dealer and they are telling me that a sensor on the chargepipe is unplugged, therefore they arent warrantying it because it looks like someone unplugged it. They also are telling me that chargepipes arent a warrantable item. Does this make sense? I though cracked CP's were warranty items. The only reason I even went to the dealer was because my c-clip is non-existant.
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BlackBB6 Lieutenant 65 Rep 554 Posts Drives: E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dallas iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 BMW E92 335i [8.00]	Call and ask to talk to a manager or go to another dealer, charge pipes are covered and their reason for denying it is weak at best.
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mg4734 Lieutenant 28 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 2009 335i M-Sport Coupe Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Illinois iTrader: (2)	my car was out of warranty when mine broke, but the sensor was unplugged when the pipe cracked, it broke the clip for the sensor... That's horse shit from the stealership. should absolutely be covered. __________________ 2009 E92 335i M-Sport - MHD Stage One - BMW Performance Exhaust - BMS Oil Catch Can - CDV Delete - K&N Panel Filter - Arc Angel H8 bulbs - Gloss Black Kidney Grills - Painted Reflectors - VRSF Charge Pipe
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Rat_House First Lieutenant 221 Rep 370 Posts Drives: M2 Comp, Gated R8, DatsunZ, mk Join Date: May 2013 Location: Stamford, CT iTrader: (2)	Thanks guys, ill keep pushing them. In the case they dont cover it, does anyone have a c-clip laying around?
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mg4734 Lieutenant 28 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 2009 335i M-Sport Coupe Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Illinois iTrader: (2)	99% of the time it will be on your undertray somewhere. get an extendable magnet and a flashlight, they're really hard to come by if you cant find it. I don't have one __________________ 2009 E92 335i M-Sport - MHD Stage One - BMW Performance Exhaust - BMS Oil Catch Can - CDV Delete - K&N Panel Filter - Arc Angel H8 bulbs - Gloss Black Kidney Grills - Painted Reflectors - VRSF Charge Pipe
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Hokie_BMW Captain 59 Rep 661 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Sedan Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	Is this the c clip? Just found it on ecs http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ntake/ES39182/
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brewnami Major 100 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335i M Sport Coupe Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (5)	The only sensor that attaches to the charge pipe is the MAP sensor... Wouldn't the car have some other issues if that wasn't plugged in? At this point, I would just get a metal charge pipe and never worry about this problem again. __________________ 2009 335i M Sport coupe, BSM with black/aluminum interior, 6MT, JB4 G5, MDH Backend Flash, Walbro 255 inline LPFP, VRSF Inlets, BMS 3" catless DP's, Borla Aggressive catback, ER FMIC, ER charge pipe, Tial BOV, BMS 2.3 gal Meth Kit, BMS Sport Oil Cooler Valve, Ported CDV, RB PCV, Cyba ram air scoops, Status Gruppe SRS coilovers, ECS trailing arms, Forgestar F14 SDC.
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Rat_House First Lieutenant 221 Rep 370 Posts Drives: M2 Comp, Gated R8, DatsunZ, mk Join Date: May 2013 Location: Stamford, CT iTrader: (2)	I talked to them again and they said its going to be covered under "goodwill" thankfully. Its just annoying having to argue with them over stuff like this.
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3442 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	It's nice they covered it but it will still be prone to cracking again in the future. You should consider an upgrade like the VRSF CP with OEM connectors. For under $200 you really can't beat it for peace of mind. Keep your new stock CP for a rainy day if you need to go back to dealer and want to remain stock, my .02.
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bpdef29 Private First Class 90 Rep 115 Posts Drives: '09 E92 335i Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: OC iTrader: (0)	The same thing happened to me recently, and due to ridiculous OEM prices, I opted for the ER chargepipe with stock DV connection and haven't had a problem since. More durable too, especially if you're running a tune.
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alexg212 Second Lieutenant 53 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 335is Coupe/Mustang Gt Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (0)	Same thing happened to me on my CPO. Charge pipe isn't covered, around $400 oem. Luckily, my go to bmw tech had a spare oem one lying around.
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