[boosted305]

Ok, so I installed the V2 last Friday. My car has no other mods and, in fact, still has the temp tag on it.

The install was very simple and straightforward.

The car felt pretty good right afterward, but got stronger as the days went by due to the adaptation process.

There was one series of full throttles that concerned me: 3 times I floored it and in 3rd gear at 5500 the car hit a fuel cut or something...no limp mode...just a cut of some sort, and then back to normal.

thankfully the next day it was gone!

So far, I am very pleased. The car really woke up! It feels like it is chomping at the bit all the time....very responsive and just wants to go!

I decided to dyno again (did a baseline last week)to see exactly what the V2 gave me.

I was very pleased with the results: I gained 62 RWHP from the V2 alone! I was hoping for 50 or so...so I was happy.
What was so pleasing was that this was with the 90% default torque settings which Ali at Vishnu told me were designed for 91 octane cars in Cali. He told me I should be able to take it to 92% with no problem. So I think that'll definitely be worth a few more ponies!

If I can get 8 RWHP or so from bumping the torque settings, 15 from an exhaust, and 10 from a filter...that would bring me to around 370RWHP...does that sound reasonable to you guys? Anyone with knowledge let me know how much I can expect to gain from the torque settings?

I printed out only my best runs from the baseline and V2 dynos for comparison.


So far so good!

[A418t81]

Your dyno operator needs to learn a thing or two about dynoing cars, especially ones with tq...but cool post.

[v2bling]

Whats the correct method of dynoing then? I know its 4th gear traction control off.. What else? Thanks

Nice numbers for 91 octane

[ontopofm]

wow, 337 rwhp with just V2. how come i only got 315?

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by ontopofm

wow, 337 rwhp with just V2. how come i only got 315?

V1 cars made that much. I'm pretty disappointed in the V2 numbers.

[E90ice]

You won't gaint 15whp from an exhaust and you are lucky to get 5whp with a filter.

Next best thing you can do it catless DP's. Thats what really transforms your car.

[335iheLLraiseR]

that Dyno is off.

OP, PM me when you get a chance.

edit:
the dyno is off but thats not whats wrong. you had a baseline dyno done on 1/30, you need to let it adapt some more.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by boosted305

Ok, so I installed the V2 last Friday. My car has no other mods and, in fact, still has the temp tag on it.

The install was very simple and straightforward.

The car felt pretty good right afterward, but got stronger as the days went by due to the adaptation process.

There was one series of full throttles that concerned me: 3 times I floored it and in 3rd gear at 5500 the car hit a fuel cut or something...no limp mode...just a cut of some sort, and then back to normal.

thankfully the next day it was gone!

So far, I am very pleased. The car really woke up! It feels like it is chomping at the bit all the time....very responsive and just wants to go!

I decided to dyno again (did a baseline last week)to see exactly what the V2 gave me.

I was very pleased with the results: I gained 62 RWHP from the V2 alone! I was hoping for 50 or so...so I was happy.
What was so pleasing was that this was with the 90% default torque settings which Ali at Vishnu told me were designed for 91 octane cars in Cali. He told me I should be able to take it to 92% with no problem. So I think that'll definitely be worth a few more ponies!

If I can get 8 RWHP or so from bumping the torque settings, 15 from an exhaust, and 10 from a filter...that would bring me to around 370RWHP...does that sound reasonable to you guys? Anyone with knowledge let me know how much I can expect to gain from the torque settings?

I printed out only my best runs from the baseline and V2 dynos for comparison.


So far so good!

Looks good. Dyno is reading fine. But the operator needs to start the run at 2000rpm, not 4000rpm. You missed out on the big torque number (which happens at 3000-35000rpm!) At 94%, running 93oct, you'll pick up another 10-20whp too

Cheers,
shiv

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Looks good. Dyno is reading fine. But the operator needs to start the run at 2000rpm, not 4000rpm. You missed out on the big torque number (which happens at 3000-35000rpm!) At 94%, running 93oct, you'll pick up another 10-20whp too

Cheers,
shiv

reading fine? i got 326rwhp from that exact same dyno on 1.47.

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

reading fine? i got 326rwhp from that exact same dyno on 1.47.

What's your point?

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by O-cha

What's your point?

are you being sarcastic or insinuating something?

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

are you being sarcastic or insinuating something?

Neither. If my assumption is correct that you believe the dyno is reading wrong because he only has a 10hp gain over V1. Then I'm asking what's your point.

Not insinuating that V2 has hardly any gains over V1, I came right out and said that I was disappointed with them. So far I haven't seen any customers come out with any impressive gains. Mines going in next weekend so I'll see too.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

reading fine? i got 326rwhp from that exact same dyno on 1.47.

He's running v2 at 90% which means that peak hp is only 10-15whp higher than v1.47 (of course the power differential at high rpm is bigger). Adjusting the user tq settings, depending on octane, can easily be worth another 20whp. Sometimes more. In Mr 5's car, for instance, it was worth 35whp on 91oct. Also, he posted SAE corrected numbers. Both uncorrected and STD would be higher.

Shiv

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

He's running v2 at 90% which means that peak hp is only 10-15whp higher than v1.47 (of course the power differential at high rpm is bigger). Adjusting the user tq settings, depending on octane, can easily be worth another 20whp. Sometimes more. In Mr 5's car, for instance, it was worth 35whp on 91oct. Also, he posted SAE corrected numbers. Both uncorrected and STD would be higher.

Shiv

thank you.

[Lane]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

He's running v2 at 90% which means that peak hp is only 10-15whp higher than v1.47 (of course the power differential at high rpm is bigger). Adjusting the user tq settings, depending on octane, can easily be worth another 20whp. Sometimes more. In Mr 5's car, for instance, it was worth 35whp on 91oct. Also, he posted SAE corrected numbers. Both uncorrected and STD would be higher.

Shiv

I don't know if you are right here. Mr. 5 posted the 35whp was because of the custom tune. Not because of changing the settings. Perhaps he just did not tell about changing the settings, since the graphs indicate clearly more boost indicating the settings to have been changed. How much can you change the settings up running 91oct? Did you increase it to 92% or more? What was the effect of changing the settings and how much of the gain is from the custom tune?

[Driver72]

Looks pretty good to me.
337 rwhp on 90% default settings with dyno set to SAE.

As Shiv said, your torque numbers are low simply because the dyno operator (must be a newb) should have started the run at 2000 rpms, not 4000 rpms.
I'd call the place up and ask for a free redyno since you do not have accurate torque numbers.
11 hp gain over a v1.47 car on the 90% settings is what I'd expect.
At 92% settings you should see another 7-8 rwhp.

And since you are in a 93 Octane state, after you do a WOT 2nd to 3rd gear redline datalog at 92%, and if all is fine and you don't have peak boost of over 15 psi you can up the settings even more. If you can go to 93.333% on 93 Octane, you'll see another 15+ rwhp.

On a v2 only car on 93 Octane, with boost peaking at 14.5-15 psi you should see 350-355 rwhp on the dynojet.
For reference: I got 345 rwhp on 92 Octane with settings that gave me 14.1 psi peak boost.

[Driver72]

As for exhaust and drop in filter:

Don't expect more than 3-4 hp, at best, from the drop in filter.
Honestly, it's a very minor amount anyway and when you hear people say, "I noticed a bit more snappy acceleration, quicker throttle response, and bit louder turbo sound" IT'S ALL IN THEIR HEAD!!

On the exhaust side, here's what I've seemed to notice:
On a stock car, or a car making less boost, the catback exhaust seem to give you a good 12-15 rwhp increase.
However, with a tune that pushes power up close to 350 rwhp, the exhaust seems to only give about 6-8 rwhp. Why?
Well at the 360 rwhp point, it's the intake that's the restriction.
The stock exhaust seems to flow well enough to allow 360 rwhp, but the the intake does not. So the car gets choked off by the stock airbox assembly right around the 355-360 rwhp point, regardless of the exhaust you have on.

Meaning, you can make 365+ rwhp with a CAI and stock exhaust. However, in appears you can't make 365+ rwhp with the stock intake and catback exhaust.

So, if you are going to run PROcede v2 on 93 Octane with boost of 14.5-15 psi expect ~350 rwhp.
With exhaust and drop in filter, expect ~360 rwhp.
If you want 365+ rwhp you need to get a good TRUE Cold Air Intake on there too. The twin open air cone filters, as I've said since the day I saw them, will do fine on the dyno, but will suck in an AWEFUL lot of hot air once your hood is down, and the engine is hot.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Lane

I don't know if you are right here. Mr. 5 posted the 35whp was because of the custom tune. Not because of changing the settings. Perhaps he just did not tell about changing the settings, since the graphs indicate clearly more boost indicating the settings to have been changed. How much can you change the settings up running 91oct? Did you increase it to 92% or more? What was the effect of changing the settings and how much of the gain is from the custom tune?

I think Mr. 5 was on 91 Octane too, along with his High Flow Catted DP tune.
I'd expect a bit more if he was on 93 Octane.

[MisterBMW]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

He's running v2 at 90% which means that peak hp is only 10-15whp higher than v1.47 (of course the power differential at high rpm is bigger). Adjusting the user tq settings, depending on octane, can easily be worth another 20whp. Sometimes more. In Mr 5's car, for instance, it was worth 35whp on 91oct. Also, he posted SAE corrected numbers. Both uncorrected and STD would be higher.

Shiv

We re pretty lucky to get 98octane in many parts of Asia. How far can we go for the the torque setting???

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by MisterBMW

We re pretty lucky to get 98octane in many parts of Asia. How far can we go for the the torque setting???

98% or 99%. Seems as if shiv has stated about 1 percentage point above the actual octane is fine.

92% for 91, 94% for 93, etc....

[uhcoug2011]

Originally Posted by MisterBMW

We re pretty lucky to get 98octane in many parts of Asia. How far can we go for the the torque setting???

I would say 95-96% to be on the safe side...seeing as that with 100 octane you could probably go 100%

[michsu]

is that true about the air intake, Driver72? So I should install my air intake (got the MSDS Stage 1 and 2) first, and then install the downpipes? Since I have the catback exhaust already, you say the "limit" is because of the stock intake.. Thanks