Hill-Start Assist

Elywood · 08-02-2015, 02:44 AM

Does the 2015 228i have hill-start assist? I read somewhere that it does, but when I asked my dealer he said it didn't come with it.. Can anyone confirm?
(If it does come with, is it a permanent hold or just a brief hold?)

Cheers!

B.a.f · 08-02-2015, 04:43 AM

I own a 2015 228i with ZF8 AT. It has the hill-start assist that holds the car for 2 seconds.
However I live in France so I can't speak for US model.

allthatisntnow · 08-02-2015, 04:57 AM

Well the 8AT creeps when engaged anyway so id think it would be hard to roll even without hill assist. As far as I'm aware its a universally standard feature in all markets. My 11 R56 Cooper D manual had it as standard so its a pretty safe assumption. Keeps brake pressure for around 2 seconds to let you pull away safely. Activation parameters are along the lines of incline severity and the pressure with which the foot brake is applied.

den525 · 08-02-2015, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by B.a.f

I own a 2015 228i with ZF8 AT. It has the hill-start assist that holds the car for 2 seconds.
However I live in France so I can't speak for US model.

Of course the auto has hill start, haven't driven an auto car in the last 10 years which doesn't have hill start lol

Think the OP is referring to the manual car

kz1000 · 08-02-2015, 07:30 AM

Mine has an e-brake handle, works quite well.

mfourn20 · 08-02-2015, 07:43 AM

Yes. The manual has hill start assist. I have it. I think pretty much all mass market manuals have it now.

esp260 · 08-02-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mfourn20

Yes. The manual has hill start assist. I have it. I think pretty much all mass market manuals have it now.

I can confirm this. I have a manual and I tested it out the other day cause I was curious myself.

x97Melbourne · 08-02-2015, 12:02 PM

Why are people with the AT even answering? Or, maybe it's a joke. If so...kind of funny.
Yeah my 135i did....a great feature. It was 3 seconds or so. Helpful!

Elywood · 08-02-2015, 12:50 PM

Thanks guys! Yea sorry if I wasn't clear - I was referring to a 6speed MT 228i. I was a little curious since I was testing it the other day and it worked sometimes, but othertimes it would immediately start rolling back as soon as I let off the brake.. Wasn't sure if it had anything to do with the slope of the hills I was on

metalspork · 08-02-2015, 02:04 PM

I had the same question. I have an M235i 6MT. The owners manual doesn't say much but here's what you have to do:

On a hill, brake and clutch in. Put it in 1st gear. If you lift off the brake but keep the clutch in, you'll feel the brake pedal become stiffer. That means the hill assist is working. You then have two seconds to get going.

Hill assist turns off the instant you touch the gas, so if you're quickly going from brake to gas, then you're going to think that hill assist doesn't work.

B.a.f · 08-02-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by x97Melbourne

Why are people with the AT even answering? Or, maybe it's a joke. If so...kind of funny.
Yeah my 135i did....a great feature. It was 3 seconds or so. Helpful!

Simple because it was not specified by OP !
Hill-start assist is not that obvious for AT anyway, because as stated by allthatisntnow, the transmission is always engaged. Except if auto stop & start is active. But S&S is working so bad (sort of Stop and Stall in fact) that most drivers disable it.

allthatisntnow · 08-02-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by x97Melbourne

Why are people with the AT even answering? Or, maybe it's a joke. If so...kind of funny.
Yeah my 135i did....a great feature. It was 3 seconds or so. Helpful!

Maybe because plenty of autos actually come with hill start assist. Its not a manual exclusive innovation. Plus it wasn't specified in op.

Elywood · 08-02-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by metalspork

I had the same question. I have an M235i 6MT. The owners manual doesn't say much but here's what you have to do:

On a hill, brake and clutch in. Put it in 1st gear. If you lift off the brake but keep the clutch in, you'll feel the brake pedal become stiffer. That means the hill assist is working. You then have two seconds to get going.

Hill assist turns off the instant you touch the gas, so if you're quickly going from brake to gas, then you're going to think that hill assist doesn't work.

I see thanks for the explanation!

Declio · 08-04-2015, 11:52 AM

I've found that the system in my m235i actually holds some pressure on the brakes even as you get going. This is different than my 2011 WRX, which immediately released all brake pressure upon touching the gas or releasing the clutch.

I liked the subaru system better, but now that I've had it in my last two cars I can say that it's a great feature in any form.

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allthatisntnow Lieutenant 377 Rep 596 Posts Drives: BMW M2C, 991 C2 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: North East iTrader: (0)	Well the 8AT creeps when engaged anyway so id think it would be hard to roll even without hill assist. As far as I'm aware its a universally standard feature in all markets. My 11 R56 Cooper D manual had it as standard so its a pretty safe assumption. Keeps brake pressure for around 2 seconds to let you pull away safely. Activation parameters are along the lines of incline severity and the pressure with which the foot brake is applied. Last edited by allthatisntnow; 08-02-2015 at 06:36 AM..
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Elywood New Member 7 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 228i Sport Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Austin iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys! Yea sorry if I wasn't clear - I was referring to a 6speed MT 228i. I was a little curious since I was testing it the other day and it worked sometimes, but othertimes it would immediately start rolling back as soon as I let off the brake.. Wasn't sure if it had anything to do with the slope of the hills I was on
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metalspork New Member 3 Rep 5 Posts Drives: Estoril Blue M235i Join Date: May 2015 Location: California iTrader: (0)	I had the same question. I have an M235i 6MT. The owners manual doesn't say much but here's what you have to do: On a hill, brake and clutch in. Put it in 1st gear. If you lift off the brake but keep the clutch in, you'll feel the brake pedal become stiffer. That means the hill assist is working. You then have two seconds to get going. Hill assist turns off the instant you touch the gas, so if you're quickly going from brake to gas, then you're going to think that hill assist doesn't work.
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Declio Private 7 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 2015 m235i Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	I've found that the system in my m235i actually holds some pressure on the brakes even as you get going. This is different than my 2011 WRX, which immediately released all brake pressure upon touching the gas or releasing the clutch. I liked the subaru system better, but now that I've had it in my last two cars I can say that it's a great feature in any form.
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