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      12-12-2015, 10:17 PM   #1
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Oil catch can on eBay..thoughts?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Silv...919?nav=SEARCH

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http://m.ebay.com/itm/RED-7-x-3-x-2-...140?nav=SEARCH


I want to preface this by saying I don't intend on ordering this lol. However, 484 others did. My question is A) would this work? B) what's the benefit of purchasing a higher end unit (burger etc) if something like this functions the same?

Just ordered my jb4 and looking to get my catch can asap.
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My question is A) would this work? B) what's the benefit of purchasing a higher end unit (burger etc) if something like this functions the same?

Just ordered my jb4 and looking to get my catch can asap.
A)If you get the proper size hose, it could work. I know a guy with one on his SRT4 Dogde Caliber (the silver catch can) and It catches oil.
B)I buy higher end things because I want higher quality and longevity. Because it have the same function doesn't mean it it has the same build quality, finish, fitment, and perform the same.

IMO, OCC is already a cheap item. Just grab a BMS one and call it a day. Those you linked will discolor and probably leak between 3-6 months.
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There is a cheap knock off of the BMS OCC floating around which may be the one you are referring to. Its hoses don't fit right, bracket doesn't fit right, it doesn't have a good ORING seal system on the can itself, and doesn't have a drain plug. I can't tell you how many people have tried to contact me to buy just BMS hoses and brackets, which BMS won't sell, because they know they are just going to be used for the knocked off OCC. So do yourselves a favor and buy the real deal.

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This is from another thread, I would avoid them.
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First one, it has drain plug, second looks like it hasn't. If it will leaks, but I don't think so, there is vacuum, not pressure, you only replace copper washer.
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They're garbage, if you open it up they are either empty or there's a brillo pad stuffed in the middle.
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They're garbage, if you open it up they are either empty or there's a brillo pad stuffed in the middle.
When is a vrsf occ coming?
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$55,000 car, wants to buy $30 ebay catch can that probably won't work instead of a proven $180 catch can.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Silv...919?nav=SEARCH

Or

http://m.ebay.com/itm/RED-7-x-3-x-2-...140?nav=SEARCH


I want to preface this by saying I don't intend on ordering this lol. However, 484 others did. My question is A) would this work? B) what's the benefit of purchasing a higher end unit (burger etc) if something like this functions the same?

Just ordered my jb4 and looking to get my catch can asap.
Since the BMS is a proven solution that is priced very reasonably, i would not take a chance with an Ebay product
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$55,000 car, wants to buy $30 ebay catch can that probably won't work instead of a proven $180 catch can.
Oil catch can isn't rocket science. Why he has to pay $180 when he can pay $30? And trust me, this cheap OCC are proven in many platforms. Used 335i is $10,000 car, maybe less. BMS OCC is nice, no doubt, but function is the same.
P.S. best solution IMHO is http://store.norgren.com/uk/en/list/...ration/filters , but it need some custom work.
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Oil catch can isn't rocket science. Why he has to pay $180 when he can pay $30? And trust me, this cheap OCC are proven in many platforms. Used 335i is $10,000 car, maybe less. BMS OCC is nice, no doubt, but function is the same.
P.S. best solution IMHO is http://store.norgren.com/uk/en/list/...ration/filters , but it need some custom work.
Let me know when you find me a 2011 335is for $10k like OP has.
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$55,000 car, wants to buy $30 ebay catch can that probably won't work instead of a proven $180 catch can.
I've had a few friends snicker at me for spending the money I do on certain auto parts because they are so expensive, but at the same token, there are some things that even after I purchase them I have an issue justifying the price lol.. To some people buying a $180 soda can with a baffle inside isn't justifiable as a "good deal" but to somebody else it's a verifiable upgrade and the financial aspect is of no concern..
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I've had a few friends snicker at me for spending the money I do on certain auto parts because they are so expensive, but at the same token, there are some things that even after I purchase them I have an issue justifying the price lol.. To some people buying a $180 soda can with a baffle inside isn't justifiable as a "good deal" but to somebody else it's a verifiable upgrade and the financial aspect is of no concern..
Personally, I'd never put an ebay part on my car that has anything to do with the drivetrian.

I'd much rather pay $150 extra to have something that I know works versus something that could cause headaches down the road.

Mind you, I'm also the type of person who can't stand when people put all seasons on their sporty cars along with nankang, general, etc. crappy summer tire brands.
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Let me know when you find me a 2011 335is for $10k like OP has.
O.K. Not in this case, my fault. B But still the same N54... It's his choice, I only say it will work, I know it, because I saw it on many cars (N54 too). If he wants proff. solution there is Norgren, if he wants nice solution - BMS and if he like cheap solution, which works, there is ebay. And I have VTA, because my engine loves fresh cold air.
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i used the 1st OCC on a past car. It works, but you need to go buy proper hoses and filters and connectors. Then you can make your own baffle by using a thin piece of aluminum and cutting to fit and drilling holes in it. Ended up costing me < $50 for everything.

And ditch the sight glass thing and plug the holes. That tends to leak.

Biggest thing to do is to take it completely apart and use some thread sealer on everything, otherwise it will leak. Its not plug and play like the bms OCC, but it can work if you spend the time to do it right.
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$55,000 car, wants to buy $30 ebay catch can that probably won't work instead of a proven $180 catch can.
Had you read the original post correctly you would then understand. I specifically said "I DO NOT intend on purchasing this item. I was simply gathering info. I was more interested in figuring out what made all OCCs different.

Cheap? ..not so much. Coming from a guy who spent $25,000 in an LS2 corvette motor. Used to be a moderator so I'm used to this sort of thing. Nothing constructive here. Please refrain from the BS
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Had you read the original post correctly you would then understand. I specifically said "I DO NOT intend on purchasing this item. I was simply gathering info. I was more interested in figuring out what made all OCCs different.

Cheap? ..not so much. Coming from a guy who spent $25,000 in an LS2 corvette motor. Used to be a moderator so I'm used to this sort of thing. Nothing constructive here. Please refrain from the BS
Price is different, because of construction. Ebay's and other "cheaper" OCC is simple alu can, each with 3holes (inlet, outlet, drain), 1plastic tube and iron mesh inside. BMS and similar OCC are all alu cans with CNC machined internals. It's much more pricier for fabrication, but cleaner, nicer and immortal solution.
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Price is different, because of construction. Ebay's and other "cheaper" OCC is simple alu can, each with 3holes (inlet, outlet, drain), 1plastic tube and iron mesh inside. BMS and similar OCC are all alu cans with CNC machined internals. It's much more pricier for fabrication, but cleaner, nicer and immortal solution.
now that's the response I was looking for! thank you sir!
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Those Ebay ones are too small, not enough throughput (among other flaws).

The PVC system needs to breahte properly. There was a discussion years ago about this which is why BMS OCC came about and the others previous to BMS fell off the map.
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I have experience making my own setups for other cars I own and I have found that this ADD Catch Can works well. The fittings kind of suck but I typically use Fragola Fittings and push lock hose anyway.

I will be making a bracket to implement it on my 335i and will post pics when I get it all plumbed up.










You can buy it on Ebay here: or just serach for ADD W1, they come in different colors.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADD-W1-Black...pTfkhB&vxp=mtr
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I have experience making my own setups for other cars I own and I have found that this ADD Catch Can works well. The fittings kind of suck but I typically use Fragola Fittings and push lock hose anyway.

I will be making a bracket to implement it on my 335i and will post pics when I get it all plumbed up.










You can buy it on Ebay here: or just serach for ADD W1, they come in different colors.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADD-W1-Black...pTfkhB&vxp=mtr

This is a much more reasonably priced catch can .... Please post up a diy for bracket for 335i
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Personally, I'd never put an ebay part on my car that has anything to do with the drivetrian.

I'd much rather pay $150 extra to have something that I know works versus something that could cause headaches down the road.

Mind you, I'm also the type of person who can't stand when people put all seasons on their sporty cars along with nankang, general, etc. crappy summer tire brands.
This is especially irritating in the winter/snow.
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This is a much more reasonably priced catch can .... Please post up a diy for bracket for 335i

Yeah and honestly I don't skimp on quality on parts. I just happened to come across this thing and could not believe the quality for the price. Then when I got it in hand I was even more impressed. The machining on the piece is quality work and it is a true catch can.
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