Question on "M Driver's Package"

jtodd_fl · 02-23-2016, 07:28 AM

Hey All,
Sorry if this is a repost, but not shockingly, a search on M Driver's Package returns just about every single thread in the forum. So, here goes.

Based on the googles and other stuff I read, it seems that the M Drivers Package is an order-able option. Based on the order breakdown sticky thread, it is confirmed that it is order-able in the US. I don't believe it was an option when I built mine out. It seems like it is just software. Any guidance? I will ask my BMW rep too, but I like to know the answers before I ask the questions. Thanks.

metrickid · 02-23-2016, 07:34 AM

In Europe it is raised speed limited to 270km/h and a driving course with BMW in Germany (that you have to pay expenses and travel + hotel for), thats it.
So basically useless for most people.

David1 · 02-23-2016, 01:02 PM

Not available on a US spec car.

jtodd_fl · 02-23-2016, 01:04 PM

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Not available on a US spec car.

Interesting that it is in the SKU list above for US-bound cars. Maybe because those are HEA or something?

Romo · 02-23-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by metrickid

In Europe it is raised speed limited to 270km/h and a driving course with BMW in Germany (that you have to pay expenses and travel + hotel for), thats it.
So basically useless for most people.

I dare to say it is utterly ridicoules to pay like €2K for this.

I can live happily without this package, incluiding the whole ///Marketing Performance "ding wings"

metrickid · 02-23-2016, 01:11 PM

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I dare to say it is utterly ridicoules to pay like €2K for this.

Yeah, the amount of times I've hit the speed limiter with my car these days is exactly the same amount of times I have won the Powerball lottery.

///Jason · 02-23-2016, 02:05 PM

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I dare to say it is utterly ridicoules to pay like €2K for this.

Yeah, the amount of times I've hit the speed limiter with my car these days is exactly the same amount of times I have won the Powerball lottery.

I think it's a bit like people who buy watches that can go 3000m deep or work at 70,000 ft. You most likely will never go to those extremes but it's nice to know it can.

Also as a side note - it's not available in the UK.

metrickid · 02-23-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Jason

I think it's a bit like people who buy watches that can go 3000m deep or work at 70,000 ft. You most likely will never go to those extremes but it's nice to know it can.

Also as a side note - it's not available in the UK.

The extra 10 km/h you get is only something worth having when you race a stock M2 on the Autobahn!

The official limiter is at 250 km/h but they usually cut at 263 km/h.

///Jason · 02-23-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Jason

I think it's a bit like people who buy watches that can go 3000m deep or work at 70,000 ft. You most likely will never go to those extremes but it's nice to know it can.

Also as a side note - it's not available in the UK.

The extra 10 km/h you get is only something worth having when you race a stock M2 on the Autobahn!

Haha

Ahh yes the autobahn - how I love the concept of a speed limit free road - how it hasn't been stopped yet by Health & Safety people I have no idea..

Isn't it limited in many places now?

metrickid · 02-23-2016, 02:16 PM

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Haha

Ahh yes the autobahn - how I love the concept of a speed limit free road - how it hasn't been stopped yet by Health & Safety people I have no idea..

Isn't it limited in many places now?

Yes, there are a lot less stretches of the Autobahn that are unrestricted but you can still find them here and there.

swagon · 02-23-2016, 03:06 PM

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Yes, there are a lot less stretches of the Autobahn that are unrestricted but you can still find them here and there.

More and more 120 km/h sections every year. They usually put a "road damage" sign there too - while the road is perfect... Just to fuck with us.

jtodd_fl · 02-23-2016, 03:08 PM

Arg... I remember fondly the 155 MPH rides in a friend's SL500 back in the day. Good times. God, that was 25 years ago. Jesus. I need a drink.

Artemis · 02-23-2016, 03:20 PM

'The Fun Sign' of The Autobahn.

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The Prodigy · 02-23-2016, 03:42 PM

For German buyers it actually does make sense. I'd say that in average every other week I drive 250km/h/155mph and only because I don't need to drive such a long distance that often.

///Jason · 02-23-2016, 04:17 PM

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'The Fun Sign' of The Autobahn.

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///Jason · 02-23-2016, 04:22 PM

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For German buyers it actually does make sense. I'd say that in average every other week I drive 250km/h/155mph and only because I don't need to drive such a long distance that often.

Out of interest; how many people go quicker than 155mph?

sth519 · 02-26-2016, 09:12 AM

Not many, because the overwhelming majority of cars is not capable of even reaching that speed and from the ones that do, most are electronically limited.

Then of course, you need to find an unrestricted piece of autobahn (not that easy in some parts of Germany), which is also quite empty (impossible at certain times), because there will be cars going 63mph to overtake a truck, changing into your lane right in front of you and without indicating. And if you can't brake fast enough in such a situation, the fault will be yours because of excessive speed.

So in short: Very, very few people go quicker than 155mph (or even 155mph at all) in practice. And when they do, it's mostly just for very short stretches.

The majority of people drive ~80-90mph on the Autobahn. Even with few cars on it, the left lane usually doesn't go much faster than ~90-110mph. Going faster than that is usually only possible when the left lane is more or less empty.

BruceM · 02-26-2016, 11:00 AM

Would be very surprised if the limiter isn't lifted on aftermarket tunes anyway. Wouldn't pay BMW to do it if I knew Dinan, for example, would also do it while simultaneously boosting the engine.

sth519 · 02-26-2016, 12:43 PM

Yes, that should be possible (and cheaper). However, there are reasons why some people might not want to go aftermarket with that (leased car, warranty issues, etc.).

The Prodigy · 02-26-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sth519

Not many, because the overwhelming majority of cars is not capable of even reaching that speed and from the ones that do, most are electronically limited.

Then of course, you need to find an unrestricted piece of autobahn (not that easy in some parts of Germany), which is also quite empty (impossible at certain times), because there will be cars going 63mph to overtake a truck, changing into your lane right in front of you and without indicating. And if you can't brake fast enough in such a situation, the fault will be yours because of excessive speed.

So in short: Very, very few people go quicker than 155mph (or even 155mph at all) in practice. And when they do, it's mostly just for very short stretches.

The majority of people drive ~80-90mph on the Autobahn. Even with few cars on it, the left lane usually doesn't go much faster than ~90-110mph. Going faster than that is usually only possible when the left lane is more or less empty.

That sums it up. There are we and all the 3.0L - 4.0L Diesel which can go up to 155mph but are limited. There are only a handful of vehicles which are not limited. I'd say that in the last year I have seen maybe 10 cars which where going faster than 155mph in maybe 3000 miles on the autobahn. Of course there are a quite a few cars who could go faster than that (all the Porsches and Ferraris) but they don't choose to.

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metrickid Dinosaur supervisor 3033 Rep 4,214 Posts Drives: E91 318d Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Autobahn iTrader: (0)	In Europe it is raised speed limited to 270km/h and a driving course with BMW in Germany (that you have to pay expenses and travel + hotel for), thats it. So basically useless for most people.
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The Prodigy Private 40 Rep 63 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	For German buyers it actually does make sense. I'd say that in average every other week I drive 250km/h/155mph and only because I don't need to drive such a long distance that often.
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sth519 Second Lieutenant 119 Rep 204 Posts Drives: M135i → M2 → i4 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Not many, because the overwhelming majority of cars is not capable of even reaching that speed and from the ones that do, most are electronically limited. Then of course, you need to find an unrestricted piece of autobahn (not that easy in some parts of Germany), which is also quite empty (impossible at certain times), because there will be cars going 63mph to overtake a truck, changing into your lane right in front of you and without indicating. And if you can't brake fast enough in such a situation, the fault will be yours because of excessive speed. So in short: Very, very few people go quicker than 155mph (or even 155mph at all) in practice. And when they do, it's mostly just for very short stretches. The majority of people drive ~80-90mph on the Autobahn. Even with few cars on it, the left lane usually doesn't go much faster than ~90-110mph. Going faster than that is usually only possible when the left lane is more or less empty.
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BruceM Major 986 Rep 1,153 Posts Drives: '17 6MT MG M2,930,Jag XKR 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	Would be very surprised if the limiter isn't lifted on aftermarket tunes anyway. Wouldn't pay BMW to do it if I knew Dinan, for example, would also do it while simultaneously boosting the engine.
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sth519 Second Lieutenant 119 Rep 204 Posts Drives: M135i → M2 → i4 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Yes, that should be possible (and cheaper). However, there are reasons why some people might not want to go aftermarket with that (leased car, warranty issues, etc.).
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