[evo335xi]

Started inquiring about this acupuncture technique after overhearing people talk about it. Apparently it's been around for a while and targets trigger points and can have some real benefits. What have you heard/experienced? Looking to tame a lot of tension in my upper back-shoulders-etc.

[gtron]

Originally Posted by evo335xi

Started inquiring about this acupuncture technique after overheating people talk about it. Apparently it's been around for a while and targets trigger points and can have some real benefits. What have you heard/experienced? Looking to tame a lot of tension in my upper back-shoulders-etc.

Personally, no.

Might I suggest grabbing some muscle relaxers and then hitting up an Asian massage joint?

[Mondolemite]

It's actually becoming more of an accepted practice in physical therapy. It's not exactly acupuncture in the traditional sense but it does use needles. Hurts a bit (I had it done yesterday) but really does get at those tight muscles if it's done correctly.

[gtron]

Originally Posted by Mondolemite

It's actually becoming more of an accepted practice in physical therapy. It's not exactly acupuncture in the traditional sense but it does use needles. Hurts a bit (I had it done yesterday) but really does get at those tight muscles if it's done correctly.

When you say "if it's done correctly", does that mean the results are sporadic?

[Katin]

Many Physical Therapists have started doing this therapy after attending a day seminar. I wouldn't go to anyone other than a REAL Acupuncturist for this procedure.
They just take a needle and stick it in and then "pepper" the area with lots of pokes. Not a big deal, actually more sore the next day.

[jtodd_fl]

Thought this was about sex without foreplay. Came to share my extensive experience. Left disappointed I could not help.

[Mondolemite]

Originally Posted by gtron

When you say "if it's done correctly", does that mean the results are sporadic?

I'm not an expert on this but I have had it done a few times. If the needle hits the correct area it really works. If it misses, the therapist should try again. It's just one of many modalities my physical therapist uses to loosen things up so I can get over a severe tendonitis. It's worked for me as I just today spent 3 hours walking around without pain when last week I couldn't walk to my car without resting.

[Romo]

Dry Needling has become the next belief in FT.

I`m sorry to tell everyone there is very poor to almost no scientific evidence for this kind of treatment.

Meta analysis, Though et al, checked 69 studies, only 7 described correcttly the treatment on trigger points, at least only 4 studies did meet the rules off correct science investigations.

The conclusions; the effect of DN are not significant.

A re-evaluation of the Though study by Kim et al, confirmed this.

Off course there are lots of people who will tell you that DN works fine, how is that to be explained?

1 Pain conditioning; the needle wil provoke pain, it will make you feel les trigger point pain.

2 Placebo effects

3 Therapists beliefs; if your therapists has a strong opinion that DN is working very well, and you are convinced by that story, the likelihood for the patient on the effectivnes from DN, will rise.

[MightyMouseTech]

My insurance pays for it, so I go, as I max out my massage therapy insurance coverage, and the coverage from my wife's insurance, easily every year.

It helps, a lot.

One of the joys of being a Tech.

[Mondolemite]

Originally Posted by Romo

Dry Needling has become the next belief in FT.

I`m sorry to tell everyone there is very poor to almost no scientific evidence for this kind of treatment.

Meta analysis, Though et al, checked 69 studies, only 7 described correcttly the treatment on trigger points, at least only 4 studies did meet the rules off correct science investigations.

The conclusions; the effect of DN are not significant.

A re-evaluation of the Though study by Kim et al, confirmed this.

Off course there are lots of people who will tell you that DN works fine, how is that to be explained?

1 Pain conditioning; the needle wil provoke pain, it will make you feel les trigger point pain.

2 Placebo effects

3 Therapists beliefs; if your therapists has a strong opinion that DN is working very well, and you are convinced by that story, the likelihood for the patient on the effectivnes from DN, will rise.

Some folks would be amazed at how many things we do that have no basis in scientific evidence and how many things we DON'T do that have tons of evidence.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Thought this was about sex without foreplay. Came to share my extensive experience. Left disappointed I could not help.

Total bait and switch.

[evo335xi]

If it's that good please share!

Going to do more research, thought that someone on here had to have tried or heard.

[Classic_Blunders]

Just finished 8 sessions. It's worked well for me so far allowing better range of motion and greatly reduced the amount of headaches. Still not at 100% going in for MRI tomorrow. It can be painful and leave you pretty sore but the next day I always felt better.

[Romo]

Originally Posted by Mondolemite

Some folks would be amazed at how many things we do that have no basis in scientific evidence and how many things we DON'T do that have tons of evidence.

That might be true, as most things are not subject to scientific research.

But than again; DN is subject to to scientific research as I stated in my previous post, and the outcomes are "not significant".

Now if you want DN and you are paying yourself for it, nobody cares, do what ever you want, but if it is payed from an insurance that would be the world upside down.

[jaye944]

nothing like dry humping ?

sorry coulndt resist

Originally Posted by evo335xi

Started inquiring about this acupuncture technique after overhearing people talk about it. Apparently it's been around for a while and targets trigger points and can have some real benefits. What have you heard/experienced? Looking to tame a lot of tension in my upper back-shoulders-etc.