Bluetooth echo

TheJackal · 03-22-2008, 08:04 AM

Anyone else see this problem? I have a 2008 e90 335xi with iDrive. I have paired my Samsung Blackjack II with the car. When I receive calls, everything is fine. When I dial from my phone keypad to make a call, everything is fine. When I dial from iDrive, there is always a terrible echo (for my voice only) during the call. The phone mic is not active. I have made sure of that. Anyone else see anything like this?

zend · 03-22-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJackal

...When I dial from my phone keypad to make a call, everything is fine. When I dial from iDrive, there is always a terrible echo (for my voice only) during the call...

Unfortunately, this is a well-known problem with the Blackjack II which has been reported by Audi, Lexus, Toyota, and BMW owners. As you noted, the problem occurs only when calls are initiated from the car-integrated bluetooth module. Incoming calls and calls initiated directly from the handset don't result in the echo effect.

Unlike other Windows Mobile OEMs, Samsung rolls their own Bluetooth stack, which is reported to be the source of this problem. Other Windows Mobile phones work fine. If you like the Blackjack form factor, you might take a look at the Motorola Q9h from AT&T. I use this phone with my '08 335i with iDrive, and it works well.

Probably not the answer you were looking for, but at least it's an answer.

CRZ410S · 03-22-2008, 11:12 AM

I have an echo on 50% of my calls. 08 335i Vert and Cingular/ATT HTC 8525. Only happen when phone is in my briefcase on passenger floor. When I move behind the drivers seat the problem goes away. ???

zend · 03-22-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CRZ410S

I have an echo on 50% of my calls. 08 335i Vert and Cingular/ATT HTC 8525. Only happen when phone is in my briefcase on passenger floor. When I move behind the drivers seat the problem goes away. ???

I'm guessing this is unrelated to the original poster's issue with a BJ II. Both the 8525 (Hermes / TyTn) and the 8925 (TyTn II) use the Microsoft Bluetooth stack and, while they each have been known to have a set of Bluetooth-related quirks, they don't have the same echo problem as the BJ II.

Based on your description of the problem (physically moving the phone alleviates the issue), I'd guess that it's just a simple reception or interference issue in your case.

TheJackal · 03-22-2008, 04:59 PM

Any know hacks to the samsung bluetooth stack? There must be a way to swap it out for the MS stack.

2007_E93 · 03-22-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CRZ410S

I have an echo on 50% of my calls...

FWIW, I have the same problem with the Razr. Goes away in the middleof the call nearly always. I just hear it for the 1st 30 sec of the call and only ~50% of the time.

CRZ410S · 03-22-2008, 09:24 PM

Appreciate the clarification!

vinkar · 03-23-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJackal

Anyone else see this problem? I have a 2008 e90 335xi with iDrive. I have paired my Samsung Blackjack II with the car. When I receive calls, everything is fine. When I dial from my phone keypad to make a call, everything is fine. When I dial from iDrive, there is always a terrible echo (for my voice only) during the call. The phone mic is not active. I have made sure of that. Anyone else see anything like this?

I have the exact same problem. It is the Black Jack II phone causing the problem. I just got the BJII for a 30 day trial from work and noticed this right away. The phone that I was going to replace is the ATT 8525 that works perfectly with the car.

I was excited to be replacing the brick (8525) with the smaller and more user friendly BJII but now I may just keep the brick because of the stupid echo.

I have searched the posts for a fix wth no luck.

Please somebody tell us how to fix this problem with the BJII!

I do not want to go back to the brick............

tintivilus · 03-23-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2007_E93

FWIW, I have the same problem with the Razr. Goes away in the middleof the call nearly always. I just hear it for the 1st 30 sec of the call and only ~50% of the time.

Which razr?

2007_E93 · 03-23-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tintivilus

Which razr?

Razr V3

tintivilus · 03-23-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2007_E93

Razr V3

Weird. What's your carrier? The V3 is pretty damn solid in the area of Bluetooth audio.

2007_E93 · 03-24-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tintivilus

Weird. What's your carrier? The V3 is pretty damn solid in the area of Bluetooth audio.

AT&T

tintivilus · 03-24-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 2007_E93

AT&T

haha. Have you ever had it happen without the carkit involved? Sometimes the AT&T network is just... funky.

TheJackal · 04-06-2008, 10:31 PM

bump... any new info?

vinkar · 04-12-2008, 04:12 PM

My 30 day trial of the BJII ended last week. I had to turn the phone back in.

Got the 8525 back and no echo.

anf · 04-24-2008, 04:01 PM

I have a BlackBerry 8830 from Alltel. The quality is great on my end, but many of the people I talk to say they hear an echo. I previously had a RAZR V3m with the same behavior.

I've seen a lot of people complaining of this problem on the message boards, but I haven't seen any solutions. Are there any other than getting a new phone or carrier?

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CRZ410S First Lieutenant 17 Rep 397 Posts Drives: 08 335i Vert Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Suburbs of Philly iTrader: (0)	I have an echo on 50% of my calls. 08 335i Vert and Cingular/ATT HTC 8525. Only happen when phone is in my briefcase on passenger floor. When I move behind the drivers seat the problem goes away. ??? __________________ E93 08 335i Vert \| 6 spd \| Barbera Red ext/Blk Int \| Sprt/Prem pkgs \| Comfort/Nav/Ipod/Sirius \| + some custom work
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CRZ410S First Lieutenant 17 Rep 397 Posts Drives: 08 335i Vert Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Suburbs of Philly iTrader: (0)	Appreciate the clarification! __________________ E93 08 335i Vert \| 6 spd \| Barbera Red ext/Blk Int \| Sprt/Prem pkgs \| Comfort/Nav/Ipod/Sirius \| + some custom work
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vinkar New Member 0 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 08 328i conver, Black Sapphire Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Shreveport, LA iTrader: (0)	My 30 day trial of the BJII ended last week. I had to turn the phone back in. Got the 8525 back and no echo.
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anf New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0)	I have a BlackBerry 8830 from Alltel. The quality is great on my end, but many of the people I talk to say they hear an echo. I previously had a RAZR V3m with the same behavior. I've seen a lot of people complaining of this problem on the message boards, but I haven't seen any solutions. Are there any other than getting a new phone or carrier?
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