Is this a good deal?

bazil769 · 07-14-2016, 09:00 AM

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3482/overview/

I am looking for a 2013 335i Alpine White/Coral Red interior M-sport with the Tech and Dynamic Handling Package. This one has everything i am looking for except the DHP which i think would correct the complaints that CarandDriver had with this model in their comparison test (see link below). What are your thoughts on the price and options. Should the non DHP be a deal breaker for me?

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...m-sport-page-3

RodDT · 07-14-2016, 09:36 AM

Save for the 340. Huge difference! :-)

tturedraider · 07-14-2016, 09:54 AM

On a rwd car with the sport suspension lack of DHP should not be a deal breaker.

bazil769 · 07-14-2016, 10:02 AM

What is the difference between the 340i and the 335i Msport? What improvements would warrant getting the 340i instead?

BimmerTim · 07-14-2016, 10:11 AM

That is pretty much average, I have been looking at CPO 2013 335i as well the last few weeks and think you might have some room for negotiation. I am searching for a manual though, and those tend to be a bit more.

I have driven several 340i, but cant justify the additional cost at this time, for relatively the same performance, just my opinion though.

zinner · 07-14-2016, 10:30 AM

the 340 is by definition an incremental upgrade. not worth extra if money is a concern

as for the lack of dhp I would look into aftermarket suspension. the only dynamic suspension worth it is the GM magride.

RodDT · 07-14-2016, 12:34 PM

After driving both, I just thought they made such a big improvement on the 340i. Feels and drives better, IMO. But you can't go wrong with either

geddylee · 07-14-2016, 04:42 PM

If you value handling and steering feel the 340 is a dramatic improvement. I wouldn't buy the pre LCI as it doesn't drive like a proper BMW. IMO

jgoens · 07-14-2016, 04:49 PM

As a point of reference I bought my "13 on New Years Eve with 20K miles on it. It has every option possible except 19"rims. SB/CR. It was $35k but is not CPO, however had a year and a half warranty left.

bazil769 · 07-15-2016, 09:42 AM

Thank you for the responses guys but dose anyone have a list of specific improvements between the 335i Msport and the 340i Msport?

tturedraider · 07-15-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bazil769

Thank you for the responses guys but dose anyone have a list of specific improvements between the 335i Msport and the 340i Msport?

The LCI (mid-cycle refresh) brought improved suspension tuning and the 340i motor is more powerful and more fuel efficient. Of course, the price difference between a 2016 340i and a 2013 335i is substantial. 2014 brought an improved iDrive controller with a touchpad.

bazil769 · 07-15-2016, 11:03 AM

Thank you tturedraider!

90rr · 07-16-2016, 10:12 AM

look at the front... car been towed.

AudiA4 · 07-16-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by geddylee

If you value handling and steering feel the 340 is a dramatic improvement. I wouldn't buy the pre LCI as it doesn't drive like a proper BMW. IMO

Improved incrementally...the consensus is that it's not a fundamentally radical transformation. Powertrain, yes. Handling, no.

goj · 07-17-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AudiA4

Quote:

Originally Posted by geddylee

If you value handling and steering feel the 340 is a dramatic improvement. I wouldn't buy the pre LCI as it doesn't drive like a proper BMW. IMO

Improved incrementally...the consensus is that it's not a fundamentally radical transformation. Powertrain, yes. Handling, no.

Most folks on the forum here that have owned or leased both seem to think there's a decent amount of difference

bazil769 · 07-21-2016, 01:10 PM

Thanks again. One member wrote his opinion on the thread below after owning both cars.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1166882

insanecoder · 07-21-2016, 01:23 PM

The amount of difference depends on the person but yea theres a diff.
340i handling is better, feels slightly stiffer, xtra pickup power.
I tell ya I put off buying a 3-series for 5+ years now prior to the 340 cause I wasn't quite satisfied at the performance and now its seems headed back in the right direction and I popped the trigger. I guess I couldve sprung earlier for an M3 but Im not allowed to get that and wasnt excited with the 3-series offerings nor with the competition. If i gotta spend 50 grand+ I want a drivers car and more checkboxes checked.
Check out the Jag XE V6 too thats a sweet drivers car as well.

alistairk · 07-21-2016, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tturedraider

The LCI (mid-cycle refresh) brought improved suspension tuning and the 340i motor is more powerful and more fuel efficient. Of course, the price difference between a 2016 340i and a 2013 335i is substantial. 2014 brought an improved iDrive controller with a touchpad.

You forgot to mention the much improved cup holder situation!

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bazil769 Lieutenant 58 Rep 526 Posts Drives: BMW 128I Convertible 02/09 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (1)	Is this a good deal? https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3482/overview/ I am looking for a 2013 335i Alpine White/Coral Red interior M-sport with the Tech and Dynamic Handling Package. This one has everything i am looking for except the DHP which i think would correct the complaints that CarandDriver had with this model in their comparison test (see link below). What are your thoughts on the price and options. Should the non DHP be a deal breaker for me? http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...m-sport-page-3 Last edited by bazil769; 07-14-2016 at 09:41 AM..
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bazil769 Lieutenant 58 Rep 526 Posts Drives: BMW 128I Convertible 02/09 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (1)	What is the difference between the 340i and the 335i Msport? What improvements would warrant getting the 340i instead?
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BimmerTim Private 8 Rep 78 Posts Drives: 2013 335i MSPORT 6SPD Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Washington DC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 335i [0.00] 2016 X5 [0.00]	That is pretty much average, I have been looking at CPO 2013 335i as well the last few weeks and think you might have some room for negotiation. I am searching for a manual though, and those tend to be a bit more. I have driven several 340i, but cant justify the additional cost at this time, for relatively the same performance, just my opinion though. __________________ 2016 BMW F15 X5 xDrive 35i Space Gray 2013 BMW F30 335i Mineral Gray Formerly owned : 2013 E92, 2000 E46, 1983 E21
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zinner Major 561 Rep 1,130 Posts Drives: `17 X5 35d/`15 335i/`18 M550IX Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	the 340 is by definition an incremental upgrade. not worth extra if money is a concern as for the lack of dhp I would look into aftermarket suspension. the only dynamic suspension worth it is the GM magride.
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RodDT 340 Yeahhhh! 51 Rep 71 Posts Drives: 2016 340i AlpineWhite/CoralRed Join Date: May 2015 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0)	After driving both, I just thought they made such a big improvement on the 340i. Feels and drives better, IMO. But you can't go wrong with either __________________ 2016 340i AlpineWhite/CoralRed YEAHHH 2013 328i AlpineWhite/CoralRed (GONE)
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geddylee Second Lieutenant 179 Rep 224 Posts Drives: 2021 X7, 2019 X5 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	If you value handling and steering feel the 340 is a dramatic improvement. I wouldn't buy the pre LCI as it doesn't drive like a proper BMW. IMO
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jgoens Major General 3788 Rep 5,776 Posts Drives: 2013 335i msport Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Mateo, CA iTrader: (0)	As a point of reference I bought my "13 on New Years Eve with 20K miles on it. It has every option possible except 19"rims. SB/CR. It was $35k but is not CPO, however had a year and a half warranty left. __________________ 2013 335i Msport Black sapphire/Coral red. MHD. stage 2--e30 VRSF DP, ER CP, Dinan Shockware. VRSF 12mm/15mm spacers. Cobra dashcam. Various codings. Last car: 2011 335i Msport. JB4. Vrsf CP
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bazil769 Lieutenant 58 Rep 526 Posts Drives: BMW 128I Convertible 02/09 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (1)	Thank you for the responses guys but dose anyone have a list of specific improvements between the 335i Msport and the 340i Msport?
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bazil769 Lieutenant 58 Rep 526 Posts Drives: BMW 128I Convertible 02/09 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (1)	Thanks again. One member wrote his opinion on the thread below after owning both cars. http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1166882
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insanecoder Banned 1412 Rep 3,211 Posts Drives: 340isDrive Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast USA iTrader: (0)	The amount of difference depends on the person but yea theres a diff. 340i handling is better, feels slightly stiffer, xtra pickup power. I tell ya I put off buying a 3-series for 5+ years now prior to the 340 cause I wasn't quite satisfied at the performance and now its seems headed back in the right direction and I popped the trigger. I guess I couldve sprung earlier for an M3 but Im not allowed to get that and wasnt excited with the 3-series offerings nor with the competition. If i gotta spend 50 grand+ I want a drivers car and more checkboxes checked. Check out the Jag XE V6 too thats a sweet drivers car as well.
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