Grand Tour First Episode Was...

hoyasaxa · 11-18-2016, 07:18 PM

Amazing. So well done. Completely lived up to high expectations. So excited for the rest.

WinterScene · 11-18-2016, 07:41 PM

Definitely enjoyed - the guys are so much better to watch than Chris Evans.

Z K · 11-18-2016, 07:46 PM

The production value is through the roof! The video equipment they're using and the budget is insane. 4K HDR video!! If you're a video geek, rejoice. Much better on all fronts compared to even their old Top Gear shows.

Let's see if they can keep it up. Amazon is known for big gaps between seasons for their shows... I would very much like them to keep making the show continuously.

larryn · 11-18-2016, 08:53 PM

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Let's see if they can keep it up. Amazon is known for big gaps between seasons for their shows... I would very much like them to keep making the show continuously.

There's 36 episodes over three years contracted for with Amazon, with an option to continue. There definitely will be big gaps. That's only 12 episodes per year, 40 weeks with no new episodes per year. For this season, Amazon plans on 12 weeks of new episodes.

Cushen · 11-18-2016, 09:15 PM

It was perfect. That M2 looked pretty good going around the new test track. Eboladome.

TooFan328i · 11-18-2016, 10:02 PM

So much for the greatest M car ever

lorinzo · 11-18-2016, 11:34 PM

It was good . . . except for the celebrity driver bit.
Jeremy Clarkson: (M2) "the best M car BMW has ever made."

lorinzo · 11-19-2016, 05:37 PM

Dinan's twitter:

"Clarkson definitely called the M2 the best M car ever. He's definitely not wrong."

te37 · 11-19-2016, 10:43 PM

If you liked top gear you will love grand tour... Grand tour is top gear with the comp package. Bigger budget, better cars, better production all together.

ToddinTN · 11-20-2016, 12:07 AM

Can't wait to see them film in person on Monday here in Nashville!

jpnh · 11-20-2016, 03:03 AM

Definately entertaining

bd307 · 11-20-2016, 03:18 AM

Two thumbs up

Rat3d ///M · 11-20-2016, 04:21 AM

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It was good . . . except for the celebrity driver bit.
Jeremy Clarkson: (M2) "the best M car BMW has ever made."

I was thinking the same thing. They couldn't get a real driver instead of some inbred hillbilly who does nothing but make typical redneck jokes about the cars he is driving because it's not 'Murican muscle?

bmw1racer · 11-20-2016, 11:50 PM

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They couldn't get a real driver instead of some inbred hillbilly who does nothing but make typical redneck jokes about the cars he is driving because it's not 'Murican muscle?

YES.

I think having that lard ass NASCAR driver perform the track test invalidated the test results... He's no Stig, that's for sure.

CirrusSR22 · 11-21-2016, 12:50 AM

Looks like Mike Skinner has been the pole sitter at the Daytona 500. Can't drive?

Viffermike · 11-22-2016, 06:42 PM

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I was thinking the same thing. They couldn't get a real driver instead of some inbred hillbilly who does nothing but make typical redneck jokes about the cars he is driving because it's not 'Murican muscle?

Yeah, um, Mike Skinner was a NASCAR driver for well more than 20 years. He even won the Truck Series championship one year. (Driving a Toyota, by the way).

(And no offense ... but I'm 100 percent certain that Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt fall under your stereotype as well. So a man's gotta be ultragentrified to be a good driver? Please.)

I'm no NASCAR fan, but I'm pretty sure Skinner can hold his own. Besides: his skill is only one reason why he was hired. His "hillbilly" point of view is another.

Rat3d ///M · 11-23-2016, 12:15 AM

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Yeah, um, Mike Skinner was a NASCAR driver for well more than 20 years. He even won the Truck Series championship one year. (Driving a Toyota, by the way).

(And no offense ... but I'm 100 percent certain that Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt fall under your stereotype as well. So a man's gotta be ultragentrified to be a good driver? Please.)

I'm no NASCAR fan, but I'm pretty sure Skinner can hold his own. Besides: his skill is only one reason why he was hired. His "hillbilly" point of view is another.

I don't give a shit about his driving abilities. He is the exact stereotype of what European's think of American's. They are just perpetuating the rumour that we are all inbred southerners who talk with a twang and sleep with our sisters. THIS is why he was hired. There are plenty of equally (or more) competent drivers that won't make Europeans think even less of us. His commentary was mediocre at best, and just gave me the impression that he was there to make American's look as stupid as other countries think we are.

This is why the Stig can't be replaced. He wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Hell, he didn't even have a face. Just pure driver, with no commentary, criticism or critique, whether it be good or bad. That is how he was intended to be. The least they could've done is hire an unbiased driver like Tanner Foust who will say good things about the car they are driving when there is clearly something good to be said, rather than "this ain't no 'Murican muscle, **ter-her-her**"

scoobysaurus · 11-23-2016, 09:37 AM

As long as Skinner can drive well and set lap times I don't give a shit what he says or whose sister he sleeps with. I think people who are overly sensitive and easily offended by stereotypes shouldn't be watching anything with Jeremy Clarkson in the first place.

Viffermike · 11-23-2016, 10:31 AM

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I don't give a shit about his driving abilities. He is the exact stereotype of what European's think of American's. They are just perpetuating the rumour that we are all inbred southerners who talk with a twang and sleep with our sisters. THIS is why he was hired. There are plenty of equally (or more) competent drivers that won't make Europeans think even less of us. His commentary was mediocre at best, and just gave me the impression that he was there to make American's look as stupid as other countries think we are.

This is why the Stig can't be replaced. He wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Hell, he didn't even have a face. Just pure driver, with no commentary, criticism or critique, whether it be good or bad. That is how he was intended to be. The least they could've done is hire an unbiased driver like Tanner Foust who will say good things about the car they are driving when there is clearly something good to be said, rather than "this ain't no 'Murican muscle, **ter-her-her**"

Tanner Foust? You can't be serious. He's persona non grata from Day One because Top Gear U.S. was a such a massive fail. I don't care if he had 15 World Championships in five different racing leagues; in the context of the show and the niche, he's not an option.

You aren't acknowledging (either through ignorance or narrow thinking; I'm not sure) that a massive part of the entertainment value of Top Gear, The Grand Tour, etc. is its humor, a large part of which is based on stereotypes. That's the No. 1 reason Top Gear was so popular -- viewership went far, far beyond gearheads. (Most of the time Top Gear got in trouble with its content was because of stereotypes, fer cryin' out loud!) Skinner personifies an extremist stereotype -- like it or not, it's not just Euros who think this way; many Americans do, too, particularly because of the NASCAR connection, and that's why the potential for humor is so great -- while at the same time providing a baseline for testing cars. That's his role. It's humor. Let it happen.

Oh, and Tanner Foust has the personality of a Ken Burns documentary. Like I said: not an option.

Dekansnowman · 11-23-2016, 10:34 AM

The opinions of Skinner are the same reason why I like Clarkson. Outspoken in the stereotypical sense. It's comedy and I laughed. Great episode and I'm so excited the boys are back together again. I really enjoyed watching Clarkson stir up trouble between the Porsche and McLaren guys.

Viffermike · 11-23-2016, 10:36 AM

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This is why the Stig can't be replaced. He wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Hell, he didn't even have a face. Just pure driver, with no commentary, criticism or critique, whether it be good or bad.

You're wrong here, too: The Stig provided humor and opinion through his actions, mystique, and second-hand anecdotes from both the cast and Stars in a Reasonably Priced Car. No face or words were necessary because he, too, filled a stereotype: the emotionless, machine-like, get-it-right-every-time ideal ANY great driver aims for when behind the wheel ...

... with a soft spot for classic music no matter what the genre, from Mahler to Jethro Tull. Again: stereotypes at play ... and it was DAMNED funny.

991GT3 · 11-23-2016, 10:38 AM

I have no idea what show all of you were watching but the Grand Tour I saw was stale and humorless. The whole thing was wooden.
And testing the three hypercars is a year behind the times.
I hope its better next episode. They need Chris Harris.

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lorinzo Captain 85 Rep 953 Posts Drives: e90 M3; i3 rex; e46 M3 vert Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	It was good . . . except for the celebrity driver bit. Jeremy Clarkson: (M2) "the best M car BMW has ever made." __________________ \| 2011 M3 Sedan \| Le Mans Blue \| M-DCT \| ZC2 \| ZCP \| ZP3 \| Moonroof \| Enhanced Premium Sound \| Dinan exhaust \| Dinan software \| Dinan pulley \| Dinan intake \| Dinan pedals \| Bimmian LED interior \| Lux H8 V3 \| WeissLicht PY24W LED \| 20% tint \| IND reflectors \| IND front grills \| IND key hole cover \| IND hood vents \| IND M5 mirror covers \| Reus Systems audio \| Verstraβe shifter paddles \| BBS LM 20x9 et 15 and 20x10.5 et 15 \| Hankook Ventus V12 255/30/20 and 295/25/20 \| Red BBS Racing lug nut kit \| H&R Sport springs \|
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lorinzo Captain 85 Rep 953 Posts Drives: e90 M3; i3 rex; e46 M3 vert Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	Dinan's twitter: "Clarkson definitely called the M2 the best M car ever. He's definitely not wrong." __________________ \| 2011 M3 Sedan \| Le Mans Blue \| M-DCT \| ZC2 \| ZCP \| ZP3 \| Moonroof \| Enhanced Premium Sound \| Dinan exhaust \| Dinan software \| Dinan pulley \| Dinan intake \| Dinan pedals \| Bimmian LED interior \| Lux H8 V3 \| WeissLicht PY24W LED \| 20% tint \| IND reflectors \| IND front grills \| IND key hole cover \| IND hood vents \| IND M5 mirror covers \| Reus Systems audio \| Verstraβe shifter paddles \| BBS LM 20x9 et 15 and 20x10.5 et 15 \| Hankook Ventus V12 255/30/20 and 295/25/20 \| Red BBS Racing lug nut kit \| H&R Sport springs \|
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te37 Major 551 Rep 1,131 Posts Drives: F80 SS/SO 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	If you liked top gear you will love grand tour... Grand tour is top gear with the comp package. Bigger budget, better cars, better production all together.
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CirrusSR22 Major 352 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Looks like Mike Skinner has been the pole sitter at the Daytona 500. Can't drive? Last edited by CirrusSR22; 11-21-2016 at 01:06 AM..
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Dekansnowman Second Lieutenant 85 Rep 240 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Sedan Space Grey Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Houston, Tx iTrader: (0)	The opinions of Skinner are the same reason why I like Clarkson. Outspoken in the stereotypical sense. It's comedy and I laughed. Great episode and I'm so excited the boys are back together again. I really enjoyed watching Clarkson stir up trouble between the Porsche and McLaren guys.
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991GT3 Captain 97 Rep 885 Posts Drives: Ford Raptor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Dakota iTrader: (0)	I have no idea what show all of you were watching but the Grand Tour I saw was stale and humorless. The whole thing was wooden. And testing the three hypercars is a year behind the times. I hope its better next episode. They need Chris Harris. __________________ -2016 Macan Turbo(GF vehicle) -2017 Ford Raptor
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