[GottWhat]

Here is the situation, I have a 2008 335i purchased in September and a 2011 Silverado owned since new. My wife says I can get a newer car if I sell both. I am thinking about leasing a Challenger Scat Pack 6-speed (485 hp).

Quick background, I mostly work from home and when we go somewhere, we almost always take whatever lease my wife has. Right now it is 2016 Ram truck. That is why my Silverado is a 2011 purchased in Oct 2010 but only has 13,500 miles. I bought the 335i because my wife went back to work last summer and I have to cart around our two kids more often and the Silverado had become a garage queen of sorts. We use it mostly for towing our boat, rented camper trailers, bulk mulch/sand and such. All that can be done with the Ram.

The 335i has been used more frequently as I accepted a temporary 3-month consulting job which ends tomorrow. I was driving to an office every day and probably put more miles on the 335i in 3 months than I typically do in a year prior to my wife going back to work.

I love my Silverado a lot but it is only depreciating in value even though the mileage is low and it is sitting in the garage. However, we have a leased truck and my wife wants another truck after this one is due. It doesn’t make a lot of sense having two trucks.

The BMW is great fun to drive. Especially after dropping so much money into the drivability (shocks, struts and tires), performance upgrades (downpipes, JB4) and general maintenance (spark plugs, walnut blasting, trans fluid). I also had the clutch changed while a leaking rear main was replaced. The problem is it has nearly 105,000 miles and will need new turbos at some point. They rattle for the first <60 seconds during a cold start but will only get worse. Not to mention everything else that goes wrong with the N54. Most of the problem areas have been fixed already but they will happen again (HPFP, fuel injectors, valve cover gasket, oil filter housing gasket, water pump, etc). So, with the turbos alone, I can expect to spend to spend a few thousand bucks and who knows what else will go wrong with it.

I wanted something with performance, RWD, rear seats, manual transmission and no repair bills. Also, had to fit my budget of ~$450 per month (<$1 per hp). And here is what I can lease for that…

So, am I crazy for considering this?

[Nkc]

DUDE...! Go for that $707/month option. Trade in the 335 and the Chevy.

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by Nkc

DUDE...! Go for that $707/month option. Trade in the 335 and the Chevy.

LOL, I would have to include a kidney and possibly sleep in it depending on how mad my wife would be if I were to get a Hellcat. But I like how you think

[insanecoder]

nuts.. get the ats-v if yer gonna buy american

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by insanecoder

nuts.. get the ats-v if yer gonna buy american

For ~$450 per month and only startups due at signing...sign me up!! Really though, if it were in my price range I would be all over the ATS-V but they do not lease very well.

[Nkc]

Originally Posted by GottWhat

LOL, I would have to include a kidney and possibly sleep in it depending on how mad my wife would be if I were to get a Hellcat. But I like how you think

Just tell her its a scat pack and you kind of overpaid. Will she know the difference?

[insanecoder]

Originally Posted by GottWhat

For ~$450 per month and only startups due at signing...sign me up!! Really though, if it were in my price range I would be all over the ATS-V but they do not lease very well.

should be able to get ats-v heavily discounted
great car from detroit

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by Nkc

Just tell her its a scat pack and you kind of overpaid. Will she know the difference?

She didn't notice the difference in sound when I got catless downpipes on the 335i but she might think something is wrong with the Hellcat when the supercharger starts whining lol

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by insanecoder

should be able to get ats-v heavily discounted
great car from detroit

I can buy one for a good discount. I am even eligible for the employ discount through relatives. However, they do not lease well and I would have to buy it which would wreck my budget. I do love the ATS-V though and did consider it.

[Brandon818]

Dodge website shows the hellcar at $495/ month lease
$356 regular r/t scatpack
there is $5500 in rebates available

good luck

but why not buy a preowned F10 m5 for as little miles as you drive

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by Brandon818

Dodge website shows the hellcar at $495/ month lease
$356 regular r/t scatpack
there is $5500 in rebates available

good luck

but why not buy a preowned F10 m5 for as little miles as you drive

Think the website lease deals require a sizable down payment. Mine is zero down (~$600 due at signing).

Crossing BMW off the list for awhile due to high maintenance/repair costs and headaches involved in diagnosing/repair. We'll see what happens for the next, next car

[c1pher]

Can't they come up with a better name than scat pack?

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

Can't they come up with a better name than scat pack?

Maybe I am into that? LOL

For real though, MOPAR has always been different with that stuff...

[Nkc]

Originally Posted by GottWhat

She didn't notice the difference in sound when I got catless downpipes on the 335i but she might think something is wrong with the Hellcat when the supercharger starts whining lol

That's easy, tell her that's the sound of the scat.

[Vigilante375]

Scat pack is for heritage. Since automakers are all about heritage....most of them.

What about a Camaro SS 1LE? Equally fast in a straight line and it handles better than a vast majority of super cars.

[insanecoder]

Originally Posted by GottWhat

I can buy one for a good discount. I am even eligible for the employ discount through relatives. However, they do not lease well and I would have to buy it which would wreck my budget. I do love the ATS-V though and did consider it.

ATS-V
Cadillac National Lease
Ultra Low-Mileage Lease for Qualified Lessees
$509/month for 39 months.
$4,989 due at signing

and maybe you get more from yer relatives

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by Nkc

That's easy, tell her that's the sound of the scat.

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Scat pack is for heritage. Since automakers are all about heritage....most of them.

What about a Camaro SS 1LE? Equally fast in a straight line and it handles better than a vast majority of super cars.

I love the SS, it just doesn't lease well.

Originally Posted by insanecoder

ATS-V
Cadillac National Lease
Ultra Low-Mileage Lease for Qualified Lessees
$509/month for 39 months.
$4,989 due at signing

and maybe you get more from yer relatives

$5K due at signing is an additional $150 per month with zero down. So, that would be ~$650 per month to lease. For a base ATS-V (although, they have a lot of standard features).

[GottWhat]

My hookup for the CDI discount at FCA will be sending the code over tomorrow. It is good for a year, so even if I don't get the SP, I can use it when my wife's Ram lease is up in April 2018. It's the last day of the month and the sales guy has turned kind of pushy. I honestly don't care if I get it from him or not. We did lease the Ram from him but I feel no allegiance to him.

For due diligence, I sent a few quote requests to other local dealers that had 6-speed 392 Challengers in stock. Even requested a quote on a SRT version for the hell of it. I likely won't get the numbers until tomorrow due to the beginning of month rate changes.

[Cuz5150]

Just heads up, that MSRP sticker that you posted, It lacks one very important item, Limited Slip Differential..... I believe its an option. Just make sure. I would not want that car with open diff.........

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by Cuz5150

Just heads up, that MSRP sticker that you posted, It lacks one very important item, Limited Slip Differential..... I believe its an option. Just make sure. I would not want that car with open diff.........

The 3.90 ratio "antispin" rear diff is standard

[UPSROD]

Originally Posted by insanecoder

nuts.. get the ats-v if yer gonna buy american

With a motor made in MEXICO!

[GottWhat]

Originally Posted by UPSROD

With a motor made in MEXICO!

Also, the Challenger is assembled in Canada