Track-tested and Bubbles-Approved, Stage II Flash

Bubbles · 05-03-2008, 07:19 PM

Track-tested and Bubbles-Approved, Stage II Flash

I attended a HPDE with BMWCCA today. First off, those of you who are debating whether you should participate in a HPDE, DO IT!, you won’t be disappointed. The program was very organized with some very knowledgeable instructors.

Today’s temperatures ranged from 82-88 F degrees but my car never tripped 250 F degrees, despite the flogging. However, the brakes and tires weren’t so lucky.

This car has plenty of usable power with Stage 2, more than I can safely use right now. The massive torque allowed me to stay in gear and focus on my "lines". On the straights I was hitting some very high speeds, which eventually led to a bit of brake fade. So I’m holding off on the upgrade for now and would rather spend the money on a brake upgrade.

fll335 was there with his juicebox and ran very strong. We were eating e46 M3s for breakfast. Fll335, I hope you made it to the gas station!

An Evo X ran very strong in the corners, but he had no chance on the straights. Oh and the M5 is a remarkable machine! (The M5 driver was quite surprised what the Dinan 335i could do on the straights).

In short, I'm hooked, I ordered some new tires and I am researching brake kits.

Digital.James · 05-03-2008, 07:21 PM

Sounds like fun. Cant wait until I can take my car to the trak.

Mr. 5 · 05-03-2008, 07:31 PM

HPDE

High Performance Driving Education?

ybbiz34 · 05-03-2008, 07:37 PM

Nice! Sounds like a good time. So about the brakes, guess you are going to have to go for the Dinan Brembo Brake Kit?

Bubbles · 05-03-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital.James

Sounds like fun. Cant wait until I can take my car to the trak.

You will not be disappointed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

HPDE

High Performance Driving Education?

Yes, this was a one day school event. What is your brake upgrade?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Nice! Sounds like a good time. So about the brakes, guess you are going to have to go for the Dinan Brembo Brake Kit?

No way, Big Brake Kit here I come

Mr. 5 · 05-03-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

No way, Big Brake Kit here I come

Or, just think about the caliper kit that Rotora offers.
Upgrade your calipers and use the same rotors.

That's what I did, and it's completely awesome.
It's much more affordable, and you come extremely close to the same performance.

Bubbles · 05-03-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Or, just think about the caliper kit that Rotora offers.
Upgrade your calipers and use the same rotors.

That's what I did, and it's completely awesome.
It's much more affordable, and you come extremely close to the same performance.

Thanks for the info!

BoostedBMW · 05-03-2008, 08:41 PM

Its nice to hear that your car held up well under track abuse with the flash.

As far as brakes go... you may want to try swapping out your pads and changing your brake fluid to something with a higher boiling point (ie. motul or ATE) before dropping the coin on a BBK. With that said, I'm not sure what kind of track pads are available for our cars yet since I haven't researched it.

Bubbles · 05-03-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

Its nice to hear that your car held up well under track abuse with the flash.

As far as brakes go... you may want to try swapping out your pads and changing your brake fluid to something with a higher boiling point (ie. motul or ATE) before dropping the coin on a BBK. With that said, I'm not sure what kind of track pads are available for our cars yet since I haven't researched it.

Thanks for the tips.

Orb · 05-03-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Thanks for the tips.

You may want to consider this option that Magna3 is using. It hard to justify a brake kit with street tires.

I am installing this setup next week with new rear stock pads which are fine and p-zero tires when they finally get here.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ighlight=axxis

Orb

Mr. 5 · 05-03-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orb

You may want to consider this option that Magna3 is using. It hard to justify a brake kit with street tires you just can't se the potential.

I am installing this setup next week with new rear stock pads which are fine and p-zero tires when they finally get here.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ighlight=axxis

Orb

Axxis Ultimates are great, but nothing like that will come close to the 6 piston rotoras.

Orb · 05-03-2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Axxis Ultimates are great, but nothing like that will come close to the 6 piston rotoras.

There nice but only help with modulation and spread out the heat. The stock brakes are really good but the pads are just limited. 80% of the problem is the pads and better rotors get rid of the heat quicker so they should be great for street tires. It just alternative solution so one step up befre you go big.

I really don’t like the brake pad selection for the BBK.

This clip puts it in presepective: http://www.imeem.com/groups/rtTC--jw...o_drive_a_van/

Orb

RedGT3 · 05-04-2008, 08:08 PM

Hey Bubbles, are you buying new tires for your 19's?
BTW I made it to the gas station. Thanks

Bubbles · 05-04-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fll335

Hey Bubbles, are you buying new tires for your 19's?
BTW I made it to the gas station. Thanks

I'm thinking about some brake pads and a book on how to heel toe

Glad you made it to a station, I expected to see you stranded somewhere on beeline.

I'm already planning the next one. You in?

05-03-2008, 07:19 PM	#1
Bubbles Brigadier General 2757 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	Track-tested and Bubbles-Approved, Stage II Flash Track-tested and Bubbles-Approved, Stage II Flash I attended a HPDE with BMWCCA today. First off, those of you who are debating whether you should participate in a HPDE, DO IT!, you won’t be disappointed. The program was very organized with some very knowledgeable instructors. Today’s temperatures ranged from 82-88 F degrees but my car never tripped 250 F degrees, despite the flogging. However, the brakes and tires weren’t so lucky. This car has plenty of usable power with Stage 2, more than I can safely use right now. The massive torque allowed me to stay in gear and focus on my "lines". On the straights I was hitting some very high speeds, which eventually led to a bit of brake fade. So I’m holding off on the upgrade for now and would rather spend the money on a brake upgrade. fll335 was there with his juicebox and ran very strong. We were eating e46 M3s for breakfast. Fll335, I hope you made it to the gas station! An Evo X ran very strong in the corners, but he had no chance on the straights. Oh and the M5 is a remarkable machine! (The M5 driver was quite surprised what the Dinan 335i could do on the straights). In short, I'm hooked, I ordered some new tires and I am researching brake kits. __________________
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BoostedBMW Moderator 133 Rep 6,775 Posts Drives: TiAg E92 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2003 S2000 [0.00]	Its nice to hear that your car held up well under track abuse with the flash. As far as brakes go... you may want to try swapping out your pads and changing your brake fluid to something with a higher boiling point (ie. motul or ATE) before dropping the coin on a BBK. With that said, I'm not sure what kind of track pads are available for our cars yet since I haven't researched it. __________________ -Michael. Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
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