[Bubbles]

chirp....chirp.....

Anyone?

[NPDAN]

Im actually trying to get to the dyno toward the end of this week.... I really want to see what Im getting to the wheels with this tune...

[B'CahiLL-The Boss]

Finally saw the Dinan 335i 1/4 mile, 12.9 at 107.xx not bad for just the flash. I'm guessing my PROcede just PROcede would do about the same.

[Wicked_SVT]

I have a dyno scheduled for Friday. I will post the results when I get back.

[Sniper1690]

I had planned on Stg. III dyno last Friday....when I called the shop to make sure the dyno was free they indicated that they were booked solid till this coming Wednesday. So, I hope to get in sometime later this week.

[5soko]

anyone have a baseline? or try to get a baseline with the same tranny on the same day before any of you dinan guys get the dyno, so we can at least get a feel. gains are more important then just a dyno number.

[2XVanos]

Getting the revised revised Stage II for AT's Monday the 9th. Will have a dyno a few days after (on a Mustang Dyno).

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by NPDAN

Im actually trying to get to the dyno toward the end of this week.... I really want to see what Im getting to the wheels with this tune...

Good!

Originally Posted by Wicked_SVT

I have a dyno scheduled for Friday. I will post the results when I get back.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Sniper1690

I had planned on Stg. III dyno last Friday....when I called the shop to make sure the dyno was free they indicated that they were booked solid till this coming Wednesday. So, I hope to get in sometime later this week.

After posting, bring your flame suit

[StarrDlux]

all you need is a dinan rev.2 AT6 to get a baseline

[funkdoc]

Well here is my dyno on the heartbreaker dyno. I have a baseline done a week ago with borla exhaust and dinan intercooler with the bogus revision flash. I got the fix and put her on the dyno today 91 octane. This was the best run in 2wd drive mode with the car cooled down and me spraying water on the intercooler with his wimpy fans blowing. The earlier runs were in the high 260ish range. Take it for what it is but it is what I and my buddy expected with only a peak increase of about 4psi at peak horsepower. I also have a comparison with a stock 745i which is rated at 325hp at the crank. This mustang dyno seems to reflect about 27% drivetrain loss for Bmw's 6at zf transmission. Tommorow, my buddy is picking up his friends stock 6at 335i and putting it on the dyno for a true baseline. Then we can get a better idea of what the flash plus some mods do. I think it is about 225-230whp or 315 crank. If you do the math, the crank output for my car is about 375hp which is about 60hp over stock for the 6at. I think Dinan's flywheel numbers are a bit off. Honestly, it feels like the exhuast and intercooler made about 10hp over the stage 2 flash right in line with what Dinan advertised. It may not reflect how the car does on the road because of higher wind speeds and cooler air for the bmc air filter and dinan intercooler. My quarter mile was 12.97 at 107.xx with only the dinan flash, so it may be slightly better with this setup. I think that stage 3 will probably only net at most 10whp because boost is only raised about .8 across the board. Thanks for looking.

[2XVanos]

Funkdoc, thanks for the post. Seems like the boost is about right 13.0 vs. 8.8. This seems roughly inline with the boost gauge readings you got right? So that sounds like good news for the flash.

I'm a noob when it comes to dyno calcs. How did you calculate 375 hp at the crank?

I have the second gen (two muffler) borla exhaust and will get the fixed flash on Monday. Going to dyno later next week on a Mustang dyno. Will post the results. I have an XI. You mentioned 2WD. Assume you're not XI. Interested to see the differences.

[StarrDlux]

27% too much. maybe after 100K miles with XI (awd).

realistic 6AT locked up is 15-18% tops.

[Bubbles]

Funkdoc

Nice Work! Thank you for spending the time, effort and money to get the dynos done. If my memory serves me right, Rev. 1 was +50-55 WHP and 70-80 lbs/tq on 93 octane, your dyno looks a bit less, but you were running 91 octane and your mustang dyno reads very low on stock boost so that may be the differential. The torque curve looks good.

Rev. 2 looks good so far. Great starting point though but more data is needed, it would be nice to see a rev.1 to rev. 2 everything else stock comparison. Kelvin, what's the word?

[funkdoc]

One has to consider that Dinans published hp numbers are on 93octane, free-flow exhaust,and 6sp manual transmission. The 6at is therefore slightly lower. I would expect on this particular dyno, it would be a difference of 5-10whp. 27% is not a realistic drivetrain loss for my rwd coupe, 15-18% is more like it but I was just guesstimating flywheel hp based on the data of the BMW 745 to get at the 375 crank figure. No one really knows true flywheel hp unless you hook it to an engine dyno, so its just a guess. I also have graph comparos with a modded E46M3 and stock 330i which show 244whp for the former and 156whp for the latter to arrive at that number. We were able to disable awd mode on the mustang and run with only the rear wheels spinning-got abs,airbag to go off a few times also. My guess on a dynojet is that this car is putting down 315-325whp depending on temp,and cooling fan speeds. On the street is where the intercooler really shines at higher speeds. The bottom line is that I like the way the car drives on the street, and dyno numbers really don't mean much without a baseline and other cars same day to compare with. Bubbles, it's all in good fun to help people interested in the Dinan product and I didn't have to pay for any dynos since the shop owner wants to get into BMW tuning-plus we barter our services. You fix my car, I fix your teeth.

[ybbiz34]

Thanks for taking the time to dyno funkdoc!

<--- Still stock with the initial Rev. 2.

[M4TW]

Originally Posted by funkdoc

Bubbles, it's all in good fun to help people interested in the Dinan product and I didn't have to pay for any dynos since the shop owner wants to get into BMW tuning-plus we barter our services. You fix my car, I fix your teeth.

So he greats a nice smile in exchange for your big grin . Sounds about right to me.

Tell me more about how awesome Stage II.2 is and how much I'm going to love the revised revised Stage II along with the FMIC. I'm getting mine next week.

[NPDAN]

Im going for my dyno tonight.... 6pm is my appt. I figure I'll have my results posted up around 8ish.... Keep and eye out...

[funkdoc]

Originally Posted by NPDAN

Im going for my dyno tonight.... 6pm is my appt. I figure I'll have my results posted up around 8ish.... Keep and eye out...

I think you'll put down pretty nice numbers with all your mods + stage 2 and you are manual transmission, correct? 330ish whp on the dynojet me thinks. I have a feeling that the 100 octane may not make a drastic difference on the dyno tho, but I run it all the time here in Norcal and I like it on the road. How does your second cat delete sound with the dinan exhuast, because I'm gonna do the opposite of you and mate some borla 2nd cat delete pipes to my borla exhaust. Can you give a comparison sound and powerwise. Thanks partner...Are you on 2.5 inch piping still?

[NPDAN]

Originally Posted by funkdoc

I think you'll put down pretty nice numbers with all your mods + stage 2 and you are manual transmission, correct? 330ish whp on the dynojet me thinks. I have a feeling that the 100 octane may not make a drastic difference on the dyno tho, but I run it all the time here in Norcal and I like it on the road. How does your second cat delete sound with the dinan exhuast, because I'm gonna do the opposite of you and mate some borla 2nd cat delete pipes to my borla exhaust. Can you give a comparison sound and powerwise. Thanks partner...Are you on 2.5 inch piping still?

I think I'll do alright tonight as well. Yes, I have a manual transmission and my thoughts are the same as yours with the 100 octane. I enjoy it as a daily driver as well. The 2ndary delete sounds great with the Dinan exhaust. It's a bit louder and more rumbly than the Borla with a little rasp to it... IMO it sounds much better then the Borla. Powerwise, maybe a little quicker response but nothing really noticeable. However, the more I drive it, the more I appreciate the exhaust swap... Yep, 2.5" it is... I'll post up the Dyno results in this thread tonight...

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by B'CahiLL-The Boss

Finally saw the Dinan 335i 1/4 mile, 12.9 at 107.xx not bad for just the flash. I'm guessing my PROcede just PROcede would do about the same.

If you had an original PROcede v1.2 (310-315 rwhp on 6AT cars on 91 Octane) and you went to a drag strip with a DA of about 2500 feet in elevation than yes, that would be about right.
V2 only car with 340-350 rwhp you'd see mid 12's @ 110-113 mph.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Driver72

If you had an original PROcede v1.2 (310-315 rwhp on 6AT cars on 91 Octane) and you went to a drag strip with a DA of about 2500 feet in elevation than yes, that would be about right.
V2 only car with 340-350 rwhp you'd see mid 12's @ 110-113 mph.

I heard a V3 and intake only car can make 365rwhp on a lower reading dynojet....

[StarrDlux]

you think with the torque converter locked up and better final drive unless you tested it at the exact same nearest 1:1 ratio you might offset some of the results.

the amount of head dissipated from 27% driveline loss would be enormous. energy turns into heat i doubt modern locked up 6AT ZF trannies even have 15% driveline loss to be honest. You'd need a ginormous trans cooler for those losses. I'd overheat my camaro 4 speed after about 10 hotlaps on the 1/4 (back to back with no staging wait) and that was with a ginormous cooler on it.

I'd guess the reality of a these newer cars is they make what they make and we all know the dinan tune is mild cheddar to keep the bmw folks off their backs for new motor bills.

but seriously how much power do you need? If you spend a little bit more get yourself a Z06 and some drag radials you can run 10's with dealer tags on it still