Anyone Else Having WINDOWS 10 Issues

TXSTYLE · 12-19-2018, 06:54 PM

I'm pretty PC literate and have been using Windows OS forever.

I have a couple of laptops I use around the house, but my primary is a 17in HP. It has been solid over the years to say the least! But low and behold... Windows 10 seems to be unleashing foking updates almost weekly if not daily!

Inevitably, there is bound to be some software conflict with various apps or programs I/you run. All I know is that I had gotten the "Blue Screen of Death" (do a search) last week. BSoDs can be caused by several different issues: Faulty Drivers, Virus, Hardware, BIOS issue, Corrupt Files, Overheating and more.
In my case, I initially fixed my issue by disabling the "early launch anti malware protection feature" (advanced troubleshooting in bootup). I then ran Malwarebytes. Which if you don't have this app, I strongly suggest you install and run immediately! I had No viruses. Which I knew anyway since I don't visit shady sites or download random shit.
So That worked for a few days. Until last night... BSOD returned! I attempted all sorts of Command Line repairs for hours. Unfortunately, I had to perform a system reset and clean install. Was able to save all my personal files like docs and photos, but all my installed software was toast. Including browser history and saved passwords from a plethora of sites I regularly use: banks, shopping, educational, social, etc. PITA, but it appears to have done the trick.

Curious if any "PC/Windows users" dealing with this lately?

c1pher · 12-19-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

I'm pretty PC literate and have been using Windows OS forever.

I have a couple of laptops I use around the house, but my primary is a 17in HP. It has been solid over the years to say the least! But low and behold... Windows 10 seems to be unleashing foking updates almost weekly if not daily!

Inevitably, there is bound to be some software conflict with various apps or programs I/you run. All I know is that I had gotten the "Blue Screen of Death" (do a search) last week. BSoDs can be caused by several different issues: Faulty Drivers, Virus, Hardware, BIOS issue, Corrupt Files, Overheating and more.
In my case, I initially fixed my issue by disabling the "early launch anti malware protection feature" (advanced troubleshooting in bootup). I then ran Malwarebytes. Which if you don't have this app, I strongly suggest you install and run immediately! I had No viruses. Which I knew anyway since I don't visit shady sites or download random shit.
So That worked for a few days. Until last night... BSOD returned! I attempted all sorts of Command Line repairs for hours. Unfortunately, I had to perform a system reset and clean install. Was able to save all my personal files like docs and photos, but all my installed software was toast. Including browser history and saved passwords from a plethora of sites I regularly use: banks, shopping, educational, social, etc. PITA, but it appears to have done the trick.

Curious if any "PC/Windows users" dealing with this lately?

What version are you on? We had to stop rollin out the latest creator edition because of all the issues. We are still on 1806.

TXSTYLE · 12-19-2018, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM135is

What version are you on? We had to stop rollin out the latest creator edition because of all the issues. We are still on 1806.

I'm on 1803. Naturally there are updates pending, but I have held off on updating until I do more research on Windows forums.

TXSTYLE · 12-19-2018, 07:40 PM

I see 1809 is available.

AnOldBiker · 12-19-2018, 07:43 PM

It was due to these issues that I replaced every computer I own to Macs. Once converted, never had an issue.

c1pher · 12-19-2018, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AnOldBiker

It was due to these issues that I replaced every computer I own to Macs. Once converted, never had an issue.

As much as I also love macs, they are not trouble free in the enterprise nor are they as well supported as windows machines. It’s getting there though.

Banana Hammock · 12-19-2018, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AnOldBiker

It was due to these issues that I replaced every computer I own to Macs. Once converted, never had an issue.

It's Mac users like you that give the rest of them a bad rep. We get it you like it, you like your Mac, no one asked. You're more annoying than a vegan cross fitter.

particulardude · 12-19-2018, 09:51 PM

There are times I wish I had nothing to do with computers and could use something predictable like a hammer and an anvil at work...

1and1 · 12-19-2018, 11:19 PM

For my personal home use laptop I've got an HP Envy X360 running v1803 Home and updates current through today. It's polite and well behaved. My work stuff wouldn't be a fair comparison. Focus is on ad blocking (using AdGuard for Windows), AV is just MS Defender in whatever it's basic config is.

I'd encourage holding off on v1809 for at least a week considering all the problems they've had with it. MS released 1809 to "advanced users" on the 18th, and then the morning of the 19th went to wide release.... Yeah, cause 12 hours is enough to be sure a problematic release is safe now... (recent insider testing notwithstanding...) So, OK, it probably is stable now, but let others do the testing first.

In the office where I do this stuff for a living our current plan is to skip 1809 unless it improves drastically.

jimbobiggens · 12-19-2018, 11:59 PM

Microsoft is doing their dead level best to go to Windows as a subscription service. "Windows as a service" is going to be interpreted by me as "Drop Microsoft like a hot rock and hello Linux". Office 19 is already a subscription service.

I truly believe Microsoft is not too big to fail. They failed at smartphones, they have failed with Edge, Bing is a failure, and this will fail too. They have given up on producing a polished product and are content to have the customer base do their final product testing. Thus the unfinished/incomplete updates causing all the grief with files and user data missing or corrupted.

I work in IT in a college and our updates have to be tested before releasing because of the unreliable nature of Windows updates. We hold updates for a couple of months to give us time to test them thoroughly first. We absolutely cannot have issues like 1809 OneDrive updates erasing user data.

As of right now, we have no plans to go above 1803.

WestRace · 12-20-2018, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

I work in IT in a college and our updates have to be tested before releasing because of the unreliable nature of Windows updates. We hold updates for a couple of months to give us time to test them thoroughly first. We absolutely cannot have issues like 1809 OneDrive updates erasing user data.

As of right now, we have no plans to go above 1803.

A very smart man once told me that all softwares have bugs. If you wait until you fix all the bugs before releasing your software products, you're probably too late.

Dang3r · 12-20-2018, 05:23 AM

MAC sux, W10 fail, W7 ftw.

jimbobiggens · 12-20-2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WestRace

A very smart man once told me that all softwares have bugs. If you wait until you fix all the bugs before releasing your software products, you're probably too late.

This particular update I referenced erased the contents of the User folder if it was not already on Onedrive's cloud. This update was the reason Microsoft put 1809 on hold after releasing it. Imagine waking up in the morning and all your data is gone. All your documents, your desktop, pictures, everything related to you is gone. Now multiply that with 3000 computers in a school. See the problem? Yikes.

12-20-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

So That worked for a few days. Until last night... BSOD returned!

You keep linking BSOD with Windows updates, but haven't referenced any relevant information as to causation.

What errors are you seeing in the logs?

Sounds like you're blindly chasing down software updates when the issue could be something entirely different. This is equivalent to getting a CEL for misfires and flashing a new map before even reading trouble codes.

CTinline-six · 12-20-2018, 09:45 AM

I work in IT, so All. The. Time.

dinonz · 12-20-2018, 09:51 AM

Only issues I've had with it recently are a Motorola (Symbol) scanner stopped working for a while, and now I've noticed the power saver doesn't seem to switch off the screen.

WestRace · 12-20-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

This particular update I referenced erased the contents of the User folder if it was not already on Onedrive's cloud. This update was the reason Microsoft put 1809 on hold after releasing it. Imagine waking up in the morning and all your data is gone. All your documents, your desktop, pictures, everything related to you is gone. Now multiply that with 3000 computers in a school. See the problem? Yikes.

I can live with that :-)

P1 · 12-20-2018, 10:47 AM

I have Win 10 Enterprise on all my machines, and all have been rock solid. Are you sure you aren't having hardware issues? Loose video cards, memory that becomes unseated, all can lead to blue screens. I'd start there first.

Remember: just like redoing your iPhone from scratch once a year, sometimes just DBANing your hard drive and going with a fresh Win 10 install isn't the worst thing.

TXSTYLE · 12-20-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by P1et

I have Win 10 Enterprise on all my machines, and all have been rock solid. Are you sure you aren't having hardware issues? Loose video cards, memory that becomes unseated, all can lead to blue screens. I'd start there first.

Remember: just like redoing your iPhone from scratch once a year, sometimes just DBANing your hard drive and going with a fresh Win 10 install isn't the worst thing.

Yeah. I'm starting to believe that. I would think that if it is hardware related, the issue will creep up again soon... But so far everything is humming along fine on that machine.

P1 · 12-20-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

I would think that if it is hardware related, the issue will creep up again soon...

Again, there's no need to guess...WHAT ARE YOUR LOGS SHOWING!??!?!?!?!

TXSTYLE · 12-20-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FCobra94

Again, there's no need to guess...WHAT ARE YOUR LOGS SHOWING!??!?!?!?!

FYI Genius... I wasn't attempting to update jack shit as you implied earlier.

Unfortunately there are no log files from Reliability Monitor prior to me doing the new install. And Event Viewer isn't the ideal place to look for bsod reasons. So nothing for me to really go on prior to.
All I know, was I tried everything. There was no restore point to choose from. And it would NOT even boot into Safe Mode. Could have been a bug in Windows or a hardware driver could have caused the crash, but I may never see it again.

12-20-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

And Event Viewer isn't the ideal place to look for bsod reasons.

It's certainly more "ideal" than performing a system reset, but ok

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