04-19-2019, 07:08 AM | #1 |
Όλα ρόδες
760
Rep 561
Posts
Drives: BMW
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Athens, Greece
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2004 e46 M3 Convert ... [7.50]
2023 M4 CSL [8.17] 2007 E86 M Coupe [0.00] 2008 e93 M3 [0.00] 2019 M2 Competition [9.67] 2017 f48 X1 xdrive 25d [6.00] |
crank hub fix part available in Europe
Noticed that Litchfield posted the fix on their site
https://www.litchfieldmotors.com/bmw...power-upgrades There is also one marketed by Mosselman, here: https://www.mosselmanturbo.com/en/cr...-bmw-m3-m4-f8x Is there anybody else that offers a solution in Europe? Anybody done it? |
04-19-2019, 12:53 PM | #2 |
Lieutenant
426
Rep 538
Posts |
Wow thanks for posting that, the link to their blog article is extremely interesting.
https://www.litchfieldmotors.com/blo...rank-hub-issue |
Appreciate
1
Dark-Yoda25.50 |
04-19-2019, 02:16 PM | #3 |
Captain
273
Rep 756
Posts |
How is the Litchfield crank bolt capture different than the Vargas one?
And wouldn't BMW engineer this $100-200 part if it worked after producing the s55 for 5+ years now? |
Appreciate
0
|
04-19-2019, 03:32 PM | #4 |
Major General
1546
Rep 8,972
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-19-2019, 03:51 PM | #5 | |
Lieutenant
426
Rep 538
Posts |
Quote:
If someone spins it with the bolt capture installed it will finally rule that out as the final solution. Another guy somewhere in this forum had spun his 3 times before putting JUST the bolt capture on and it never happened again (that we know of). Until I see a bolt capture NOT solve the problem I won't go any further than that as a preventative measure. The other question is what % of the failures result in engine damage vs simply limp mode. The dealer near me said almost always limp mode... |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-20-2019, 03:19 AM | #6 |
Second Lieutenant
199
Rep 244
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-21-2019, 11:04 AM | #7 |
Lieutenant
291
Rep 456
Posts |
I am having Litchfield install their bolt capture on to my M2C on Thursday along with a Stage 1 remap and having an AA mid pipe fitted. Litchfield run their bolt capture on their own 600bhp M3 and haven't had any issues and I am happy with this solution.
__________________
2019 HS DCT M2 Competition with Essex AP Racing Radical Pro5000r front and rear BBKs, Bilstein B16s and 763M wheels with Cup 2s
|
04-21-2019, 04:54 PM | #8 | |
Colonel
4403
Rep 2,856
Posts
Drives: BMW M2 CSL Turbomeister
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Travelling / Managing / Writing
|
Quote:
For now I am waiting what to do... I don't have any performance tuning yet, I might fit a AC Schnitzer Tuningbox for the sake of testing it and sharing my thoughts with you guys, but then at least I am under warranty. Just not sure... Time will tell. First suspension and wheels, and then next steps. My project is taking longer than I initially thought, but I also decided to keep the car longer so I have enough time in 2020 to finish it all. MR |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-21-2019, 05:05 PM | #9 | ||
Lieutenant
291
Rep 456
Posts |
Quote:
I have the brakes and suspension done already and, after the track day yesterday at Bedford Autodrome, I could see what everyone is talking about with the lack of power at the top end. So, it makes sense to me to get a remap and the bolt capture at the same time as a bit of an insurance policy. I could have spent more like GreatWhiteM2 to get a new crank hub replacement, but I need to be mindful of cost. One of the guys who works for Palmer Motorsports at The Autodrome said one of their M2 Comps lit on fire free one spun on track on to the grass. The OPFs got so hot and lit on fire as the car didn't pull away quick enough. He also said this has happened to a couple other M2 Comps that he knows of. Makes me happy to be switching to an AA mid pipe on Thursday considering I'll me doing more track days.
__________________
2019 HS DCT M2 Competition with Essex AP Racing Radical Pro5000r front and rear BBKs, Bilstein B16s and 763M wheels with Cup 2s
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
04-24-2019, 05:31 AM | #10 | |
Major General
1546
Rep 8,972
Posts |
Quote:
Mine's in at a local shop on Friday for the Milltek DP back system to be fitted... I'll run it standard for a bit and analyse the OPF errors first, then put on the BM3 CS map... |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-24-2019, 05:40 AM | #11 | ||
Lieutenant
291
Rep 456
Posts |
Quote:
Insurance sorted for extra hp- cost an extra £80, which is reasonable. AA midpipe and spray painting the back box black. We will have to arrange a meet up soon! Be good to hear the Milltek system. Track day at Bedford Autodrome on the 6th May Bank Holiday. I'll be going if it's dry. Fancy it?
__________________
2019 HS DCT M2 Competition with Essex AP Racing Radical Pro5000r front and rear BBKs, Bilstein B16s and 763M wheels with Cup 2s
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
04-24-2019, 02:31 PM | #13 | |
Major General
1546
Rep 8,972
Posts |
Quote:
M2C-meet sounds good but I'm working sat 4th May so that's my wife-pass-out credits used up for that weekend... |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-24-2019, 02:37 PM | #14 |
Lieutenant
291
Rep 456
Posts |
For peace of mind I would, but I am no expert. Your car might be fine for the rest of it's life without the fix, but that's the risk you take I guess with added power. Saying that, people's crank hubs have been seeing faults without any additional power.
__________________
2019 HS DCT M2 Competition with Essex AP Racing Radical Pro5000r front and rear BBKs, Bilstein B16s and 763M wheels with Cup 2s
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-25-2019, 05:18 AM | #16 |
Captain
518
Rep 744
Posts |
Does anyone know what the Litchfield part 2 crank hub fix is?
From the blog/sales page it seems like they only have 1 solution, the crank hub bolt capture thingy. The "part 2" fix only seems to apply to engines which have already spun and where they simply replace OEM crank hub components for new OEM components to fix the car. Anybody know any different? As for the tuning can't wait till my M2C is out of warranty! |
Appreciate
0
|
04-25-2019, 07:41 AM | #17 | |
New Member
23
Rep 19
Posts |
Cheers
Quote:
Understood- is all about the risk in anything we do with these cars! Would be good to stay in touch tho you guys that have the M2 C in the UK.. Seems are a located close to each other too. Let me know if you get a meet set up would join ya's |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-25-2019, 07:43 AM | #18 | ||
Lieutenant
291
Rep 456
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2019 HS DCT M2 Competition with Essex AP Racing Radical Pro5000r front and rear BBKs, Bilstein B16s and 763M wheels with Cup 2s
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
04-25-2019, 03:04 PM | #20 | |
Brigadier General
1784
Rep 4,525
Posts |
Quote:
You raise an interesting point - ACS 'gap' warranty supposedly kicks in if/when BMW warranty cover is denied due to presence of ACS parts. As Karlos has said above already, spun crank hub is a known issue on S55's on stock power incl M2Comp's. You might struggle to get either party - BMW or ACS - to admit culpability. BMW saying ACS tuning box is sole cause & ACS saying that you will have known about s55 hub vulnerability on standard cars so choosing to add power without appropriate hardware may leave you up a sh!t creek w/o a paddle...… my 2cents worth...BP
__________________
Fettled M135i EB AT then AW M2 DCT - both gone but not forgotten:
Current '22 X3M LCI.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-26-2019, 08:44 AM | #21 | |
Colonel
4403
Rep 2,856
Posts
Drives: BMW M2 CSL Turbomeister
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Travelling / Managing / Writing
|
Quote:
MR |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-26-2019, 10:00 AM | #22 | |
Lieutenant
426
Rep 538
Posts |
Quote:
Of course more power can contribute to those things, they aren't mutually exclusive. |
|
Appreciate
1
Big Fabri94.50 |
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|