*New Style RPI Scoops Installed!*

Mr. 5 · 08-26-2008, 10:24 AM

I don't know if you have seen my previous thread about the RPI scoops but I have always been a firm believer about the scoops. They do such a great job with making the vacuum style stock intake system into a ram air system.

I've noticed lately that the styling has changed. They definitely grab more air!
The scoops are angled on the edges to take advantage of the entire OEM grill. They drop down the same as the old ones so proper flow still goes to the radiator. I've measured the water temperature before and after the scoops were installed and the temps are the same. This is not surprising since our water pumps strive to reach specific temperatures anyways.

Anyways, I'm exteremely happy with this design. You can see in the pics the amount of R&D that went into these scoops. Also, the scoop on the Driver's side is a tad smaller than the passenger's side since it has a smaller distance to be traveled than the passenger's side. You'll see this when you look at the snorkel.

The scoops come in red. I was going to paint them black, but then I just painted them anodized bronze, just to be a little different. You reallyu can't tell once they're installed.
I took pics of the old scoops to compare the difference between the new ones.

GGreek5 · 08-26-2008, 10:32 AM

I thought you had the AFE intake Mr. 5??

e90AW335i · 08-26-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GGreek5

I thought you had the AFE intake Mr. 5??

He does but the scoops help bring in air....

vegasspeed · 08-26-2008, 10:35 AM

Will that hurt your radiator temps?

Mr. 5 · 08-26-2008, 10:35 AM

I do.
Just imagine all of the cold air the AFE is going to be sucking in.

Mr. 5 · 08-26-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vegasspeed

Will that hurt your radiator temps?

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I do.
Just imagine all of the cold air the AFE is going to be sucking in.

were tests ever done that show these actually help in any way? I'm talking hard facts, not just assumptions

Mr. 5 · 08-26-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

were tests ever done that show these actually help in any way?

RPI has done testing with scoops on the stock air box, but I have not.
They've found good increases on the dyno.

I'm honestly a little burnt out on the dynos lately, but the seat of my pants notices great results.
Especially with the AFE intake!
Without the scoops, in order for the AFE intake to get cold air there would need to be enough air in the front of the radiator to build pressure for air to travel through the snorkel.
With the scoops, the cold air will be traveling to the AFE filters as soon as you start to move.

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 10:44 AM

*I'm not bashing these funny things, i'm just curious. I'll probably get them as a cheap mod... they can't hurt.

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 10:46 AM

burnt out with dynos? say it aint so!

I'm going back with a top secret FMIC in a few weeks

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I'm honestly a little burnt out on the dynos lately, but the seat of my pants notices great results.

dmboone25 · 08-26-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

*I'm not bashing these funny things, i'm just curious. I'll probably get them as a cheap mod... they can't hurt.

Problem is, they aren't cheap! $200--I am lucky enough to have gotten them for my birthday....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

RPI has done testing with scoops on the stock air box, but I have not.
They've found good increases on the dyno.

I'm honestly a little burnt out on the dynos lately, but the seat of my pants notices great results.
Especially with the AFE intake!
Without the scoops, in order for the AFE intake to get cold air there would need to be enough air in the front of the radiator to build pressure for air to travel through the snorkel.
With the scoops, the cold air will be traveling to the AFE filters as soon as you start to move.

Thanks for the explanation--I haven't installed these on my 135 yet--have you messed around with a 135 at all? I am wondering if these are going to fit--Eloy simply said he assumed that the 135 and 335 would be the same in this general area....

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 11:05 AM

oh, 200? what a rip, i was thinking 50...

e90AW335i · 08-26-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

burnt out with dynos? say it aint so!

I'm going back with a top secret FMIC in a few weeks

Let me guess....AE FMIC.

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Let me guess....AE FMIC.

nope

a very well known company that has been in the business for a while. I can't name names of course. The coming weeks will be fun though

e90AW335i · 08-26-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

nope

a very well known company that has been in the business for a while. I can't name names of course. The coming weeks will be fun though

Wanna PM me?

sflgator · 08-26-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

oh, 200? what a rip, i was thinking 50...

+1. They probably cost ~ $5 to make; they look like tin cans.

Not saying they don't do what they're supposed to, but they should be ~ $50, imho as well...even at $10 mfgr cost, $50/set is a 500% markup. At $200, they're just a rip!

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

+1. They probably cost ~ $5 to make; they look like tin cans.

Not saying they don't do what they're supposed to, but they should be ~ $50, imho as well.

i would buy these right now for 50 dollars.. instead ill just make them myself

Mr. 5 · 08-26-2008, 11:39 AM

Guys guys, come on.
I know how you're feeling about the price but I'm telling you that they work awesome.

I personaly don't understand why people would spend as much as they do to tint their windows, but people do it. If it's not for you then fine, but these scoops look great, they work great, and I'm confident that there's been some true engineering behind the product.

jpsimon · 08-26-2008, 11:42 AM

RPI should do some tests on the dyno and show us

M3to335 · 08-26-2008, 11:49 AM

Wholy crap, $200 for those? I can water jet that and break it on the press in a few minutes. Hmm, maybe its time to start selling my own version for half the price!

sflgator · 08-26-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Guys guys, come on.
I know how you're feeling about the price but I'm telling you that they work awesome.

I personaly don't understand why people would spend as much as they do to tint their windows, but people do it. If it's not for you then fine, but these scoops look great, they work great, and I'm confident that there's been some true engineering behind the product.

Tinting your windows is a necessary thing (cuts way down on interior heat and interior fade from UV rays) to to to all cars in some areas of the country, and it takes the installer about 1-2 hours of labor time + the window film; that's worth $200, unless you get your BMW CA to "throw it in" to the deal like I did.

Like we've said, these air scoops probably do their job, but they're not worth $200. Maybe they'll go on sale to $50 in ~ 3 months????

Mr. 5 · 08-26-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

Tinting your windows is a necessary thing

The only thing that tinted windows does for me is make it harder to see cops and other cars on the road.
I had tinted windows when I was in high school but, one day I took the film off since it turned purple (cheap stuff), and instead of doing it again, I kept the clear glass. I was thinking about how much better it was with no film at all.
Tinted windows is way too over hyped, IMO.
Now, back on topic.

08-26-2008, 10:24 AM	#1
Mr. 5 Modder Raider 759 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	*New Style RPI Scoops Installed!* I don't know if you have seen my previous thread about the RPI scoops but I have always been a firm believer about the scoops. They do such a great job with making the vacuum style stock intake system into a ram air system. I've noticed lately that the styling has changed. They definitely grab more air! The scoops are angled on the edges to take advantage of the entire OEM grill. They drop down the same as the old ones so proper flow still goes to the radiator. I've measured the water temperature before and after the scoops were installed and the temps are the same. This is not surprising since our water pumps strive to reach specific temperatures anyways. Anyways, I'm exteremely happy with this design. You can see in the pics the amount of R&D that went into these scoops. Also, the scoop on the Driver's side is a tad smaller than the passenger's side since it has a smaller distance to be traveled than the passenger's side. You'll see this when you look at the snorkel. The scoops come in red. I was going to paint them black, but then I just painted them anodized bronze, just to be a little different. You reallyu can't tell once they're installed. I took pics of the old scoops to compare the difference between the new ones. Attached Images __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 759 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	Guys guys, come on. I know how you're feeling about the price but I'm telling you that they work awesome. I personaly don't understand why people would spend as much as they do to tint their windows, but people do it. If it's not for you then fine, but these scoops look great, they work great, and I'm confident that there's been some true engineering behind the product. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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M3to335 Whats that smell? 146 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: Bimmers, duh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (6)	Wholy crap, $200 for those? I can water jet that and break it on the press in a few minutes. Hmm, maybe its time to start selling my own version for half the price!
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