07-31-2020, 06:20 AM | #1 |
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I will be picking up my x5 this afternoon. I ordered winter tire set (tire plus rims) because it's mandatory in Quebec to have winter tires. Dealer is offering to store and swap the tires. But obviously, I need to pay twice a year for this service. For all my previous cars, I've always have winter tires on rims so I can swap them myself. However, all my previous cars are not as sophisticated as x5, so there's nothing special. I. am wondering if there's anything special for x5? Mechanically swapping the tires is probably the same as all other cars, but I am not sure if the TPMS will need to be calibrated each time?
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07-31-2020, 06:51 AM | #2 |
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Nope. Piece of cake. As soon as you put the TPMs back on the car, the car will recognize them after a few minutes. "Worst" case scenario, you may have to do a quick reset through i-drive.
Do yourself a favor, buy another set of TPMs for your car. You can get them on eBay for a little over $100, and you can have a set installed in both sets of rims. No mounting and dismounting of tires/TPMs twice per year. Then, you can keep your extra set of wheels/tires/TPMs in your own house, pay no one, and then swap them out in your driveway with nothing more than a lugwrench and a floor jack. There is no "mechanical" difference between X5 wheels and anything else. Even TPMs are installed on all new cars, so even that isn't "special" My only advice.... is to make sure their equipment can handle the SIZE of tires, particular the rears on OEM 21s or 22s. Some older shops have old tire machines not equipped to handle those size wheels/tires. Ask them directly. If they give you a "wishy washy" answer.... it means "we don't know, but we'll try it so we get your money"..... and you might just get a badly scratched or gouged set of rims back. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check the condition of your wheels CLOSELY before you leave the establishment, and point it out to the manager BEFORE you leave if there is damage. Even the most modern, high-tech shops hire high school dropouts and ex-cons that could care less if they damage your vehicle. If you leave and then discover it when you get home.;... the shop will just say you curbed something after you left.
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Remember after swapping to change the tyre size in I drive to the new wheel on the rear axle. This recalibrated the speedo i believe . Also i invested in a tyre hanger of eBay. It just screws into one of the lug holes to align your wheel easier. Those 22 are a pita, to lift and mount . Easy to tear a bicep if not done correctly.!!!!!
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So I picked up my car today. Happy as a clam..
For my order, I opted out 22" to 20". Yes, it's not a staggered setup, but I don't think those 22" will be good for Quebec's pothole roads. I asked my sales how much do they charge to swap tires. He said $2XX..Can you believe they charge $200 for this? It's even mounted on rims. He told me the first time it's free. I will then decide if I want to bring the tires home. There's no way I am paying $400 a year just to swap tires... |
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Congrats on finally picking up the car!
Second set of rims with TPMS and mounted winter tires are the way to go. As everyone says, TPMS is straight forward. For changing wheels yourself, there are a couple of items besides a jack, torque wrench, and lug bolt socket that are useful: - because German cars use lug bolts (not lug nuts) with threaded holes in hub (not threaded studs in the hub), and because SUV wheels are big and heavy, a pair of wheel hangers is very useful to have; I have a pair of these that I (and at least several other members here) use: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/382855935643 - I don't believe we've yet discovered or discussed a single front and rear jack point for jacking up the entire front end or rear end at a time; as such, if you jack up just a corner using the factory corner jack points, a jack adapter is very useful; I have a few of these that I use: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/133345901695 - for the lug bolt socket, one wrapped in a Teflon sleeve or otherwise protected will reduce the chance of scratching your wheels; here is one that I use: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01N5BXDSG/ The other thing to mention is that above is all pretty easy if you get a professional shop or BMW dealer to source the winter rims for you. If you source the rims yourself, there is some non-trivial complexity with rim offsets, hub sizing, and quite possibly use of spacers and/or hub ring adapters, locking and non-locking lug bolt lengths, and inside rim clearance sizing to clear the big M Sport brakes. You also need to make sure TPMS are compatible. And you obviously need to select the right tire sizes for the rims. BMW dealer or a pro shop will do the hard work of matching everything up for you, however; at an "appropriate" cost premium.
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Any Recommendations on 20" Non-Staggered, All Season Tires
I have a 2020 G05 and I'm not satisfied with the Bridgestone Alenza OEM tires. The vehicle feels "squirrely" and is significantly affected by modest cross winds. The dealer says the suspension and alignment are all good.
Any recommendations for an all-season tire, run-flat or non-run-flat, that may reduce the squirrely feeling and improve on-the-highway road feel? I live in Delaware so deep snow is an infrequent occurance. Thank you, Bob |
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It seems no one knows definitively why stud/lug nut vs wheel bolt is better or worse, but there are numerous advantages and disadvantages to both. Even R&T and their "experts" don't know why, LOL: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...nce-explained/ Non-exhaustively: - bolts can be replaced when damaged more cheaply than studs - dragging your wheel on a stud during mount/dismount can and does damage stud thread and then see first point - hub assembly is simpler and lighter without studs and can be QC'd simpler as well - bolts dramatically increase rim specification flexibility (including using spacers) relative to fixed length studs ie you can use thicker (or thinner) than stock rims (and spacers) by just adjusting the bolt length (can't adjust stud length) - I suppose you can make bolts be sacrificial, but I don't know if that's done; in other words, make bolts softer than hub thread so that the replaceable bolt is damaged (instead of hub) if mounting goes wrong (overtorque, misthread, load bending, etc.) - good cars (like ours) use hubcentric design and that, besides being by far the best engineered approach to mounting wheels, reduces the mounting difficulties with bolts as the rim can hang on the hub centre (with light pressure support, don't let it free hang without holding it) during bolt alignment; but pins still help a lot - etc.
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