All~season tire setup

mature banana · 12-19-2020, 07:51 AM

Hello guys,

I am picking up this puppy next week and will immediately install Michelin All Season 4 tires. I am considering a square setup and I am wondering if this would pose any issues with handling during street driving? If a square setup is okay would 255 or 265 be preferable?

Edit: I intend to install the tires on the wheels that come with the car.
Edit 2: I would like a square setup so I can do tire rotations.

Cheers in advance.

James

pluckydks · 12-19-2020, 08:28 AM

The BMW option winter wheels (although they're 20") were a square setup of 255 all around. I, personally, didn't like that on spirited drives.

Influence · 12-19-2020, 08:31 AM

While you can do a square setup (my vote would be for the 265s) it isn't going to help with rotations. The stock rims are 9.5" width front and 10" rear with different offsets. You can't put the rear rims on the fronts and vice-versa as they won't fit properly.

I put the new AS4s on the stock 21" rims myself but just stuck with the factory staggered sizes and will do a left to right rotation annually when I swap out for my summer rims/tires. The AS4s have a long tread life, so even without front to rear rotation they should last 2-3 times as long as a set of summers.

spta97 · 12-19-2020, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Influence

While you can do a square setup (my vote would be for the 265s) it isn't going to help with rotations. The stock rims are 9.5" width front and 10" rear with different offsets. You can't put the rear rims on the fronts and vice-versa as they won't fit properly.

I put the new AS4s on the stock 21" rims myself but just stuck with the factory staggered sizes and will do a left to right rotation annually when I swap out for my summer rims/tires. The AS4s have a long tread life, so even without front to rear rotation they should last 2-3 times as long as a set of summers.

The AS4s are not directional?

pluckydks · 12-19-2020, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Influence

While you can do a square setup (my vote would be for the 265s) it isn't going to help with rotations. The stock rims are 9.5" width front and 10" rear with different offsets. You can't put the rear rims on the fronts and vice-versa as they won't fit properly.

I put the new AS4s on the stock 21" rims myself but just stuck with the factory staggered sizes and will do a left to right rotation annually when I swap out for my summer rims/tires. The AS4s have a long tread life, so even without front to rear rotation they should last 2-3 times as long as a set of summers.

That's also a very good point, the wheels themselves are not square.

Transfer · 12-19-2020, 10:37 AM

Don't be silly. Buy a staggered set.

RoWoX3M · 12-19-2020, 10:55 AM

Another vote for keeping the staggered 255/265 sizes since you can't rotate the wheels.

mature banana · 12-19-2020, 01:06 PM

Thanks for the responses! I will go with staggered setup.

Parnishka · 12-19-2020, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mature banana

Thanks for the responses! I will go with staggered setup.

go with pirelli all season plus they have very good reviews and have 265 and 295 staggered set for our stock 21s wheels. I have mps as4 but thinking now that 295 on the rear that is what missing on this car. I understand that I should of go with pirelli not Michelin because of the sizes. otherwise mps feels fantastic on the road.

RR-NYC · 12-19-2020, 05:39 PM

You can't rotate a square setup with staggered wheels unless you're going to remount them each time, which would be utterly ridiculous proposition

RR-NYC · 12-19-2020, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spta97

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Originally Posted by Influence

While you can do a square setup (my vote would be for the 265s) it isn't going to help with rotations. The stock rims are 9.5" width front and 10" rear with different offsets. You can't put the rear rims on the fronts and vice-versa as they won't fit properly.

I put the new AS4s on the stock 21" rims myself but just stuck with the factory staggered sizes and will do a left to right rotation annually when I swap out for my summer rims/tires. The AS4s have a long tread life, so even without front to rear rotation they should last 2-3 times as long as a set of summers.

The AS4s are not directional?

No they're asymmetrical.

knepsterd · 12-19-2020, 06:25 PM

Drove in snow storm and day after on Long Island.
Very confident. Icy and slushy. Use them as my 4 seasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parnishka

go with pirelli all season plus they have very good reviews and have 265 and 295 staggered set for our stock 21s wheels. I have mps as4 but thinking now that 295 on the rear that is what missing on this car. I understand that I should of go with pirelli not Michelin because of the sizes. otherwise mps feels fantastic on the road.

mature banana · 12-19-2020, 07:35 PM

Thank you again for the responses.

mature banana · 12-19-2020, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parnishka

go with pirelli all season plus they have very good reviews and have 265 and 295 staggered set for our stock 21s wheels. I have mps as4 but thinking now that 295 on the rear that is what missing on this car. I understand that I should of go with pirelli not Michelin because of the sizes. otherwise mps feels fantastic on the road.

Thanks for the thoughts. I’m going to buy the mps as4 tires.

mature banana · 12-19-2020, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RR-NYC

You can't rotate a square setup with staggered wheels unless you're going to remount them each time, which would be utterly ridiculous proposition

Right. Thanks.

-JLT- · 12-19-2020, 07:52 PM

depends ... can go both ways depending on the inspector.

use the summer tires up to 5/32 tread. then switch to all-season tires for Leno of lease. then before lease inspection, put back OE tires and ur good to go.

mature banana · 12-19-2020, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -JLT-

depends ... can go both ways depending on the inspector.

use the summer tires up to 5/32 tread. then switch to all-season tires for Leno of lease. then before lease inspection, put back OE tires and ur good to go.

I think you meant this for the thread on lease returns?

-JLT- · 12-20-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mature banana

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Originally Posted by -JLT-

depends ... can go both ways depending on the inspector.

use the summer tires up to 5/32 tread. then switch to all-season tires for Leno of lease. then before lease inspection, put back OE tires and ur good to go.

I think you meant this for the thread on lease returns?

haha, my b

sayemthree · 12-22-2020, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

Don't be silly. Buy a staggered set.

This

mature banana · 12-22-2020, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sayemthree

This

Roger that!

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Influence Lieutenant 397 Rep 525 Posts Drives: 2020 X3M, 2016 X5 35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (6)	While you can do a square setup (my vote would be for the 265s) it isn't going to help with rotations. The stock rims are 9.5" width front and 10" rear with different offsets. You can't put the rear rims on the fronts and vice-versa as they won't fit properly. I put the new AS4s on the stock 21" rims myself but just stuck with the factory staggered sizes and will do a left to right rotation annually when I swap out for my summer rims/tires. The AS4s have a long tread life, so even without front to rear rotation they should last 2-3 times as long as a set of summers.
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