[Jason]

The driver tries to maintain 99 mph during the test. Result is that the driver estimates the iX50 should have enough range to cover 300 km / 186 miles when driven this quickly at very low temperatures.

He also performs a charging test at an Ionity station and the iX 50 quickly ramps up to 195 kW with 19% left in the battery. The vehicle is charged to 80% in a little over 30 min.

[AlexFL]

Ahhh, Automann’s legendary gloves…

[ChrisM4]

Being from Canada describing 40f as "Low temperature" is comical.

[Hoa]

Nice! I can't wait to get one. My wife does not want a Tesla because "everyone" got one

[MadBimmeRad]

So it charged 61% in 30 minutes

We need them to charge 100% in ten minutes; then you're talking some serious competition with ICEs

[Salespunk]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

So it charged 61% in 30 minutes

We need them to charge 100% in ten minutes; then you're talking some serious competition with ICEs

I don't own an EV, but a 30 minute break every 3-4 hours is not a big deal. Park at the charger, grab a bite to eat, stretch and get back in the car. This is the way most long distance drives are done anyway especially if you have kids.

[Mollyran]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

Being from Canada describing 40f as "Low temperature" is comical.

For some people, like me, 40F it's Doom's day

[GOLFFRR]

great vid, we just need that supercharger network to grow more. thats the thing that tesla has covered well is the location and amount of charging stations. Slowly but surely it seems DC chargers non tesla are popping up. I even read somewhere that in some places the oil companies are converting some gas stations to charging stations? Anyone else hear or see anything like this? def seems like it could be the way of the future for sure

[npa201]

Has anybody else done these tests on Tesla's Model Y and X for benchmark purposes. I'm not looking to drive 100mph consistently but don't also expect my behaviors will change to 60mph.

[Al Pinã]

Pretty admirable showing for the Bimmer.

[P1]

Originally Posted by Hoa

Nice! I can't wait to get one. My wife does not want a Tesla because "everyone" got one

Tesla: the vehicular equivalent of tract housing.

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by Jason

He also performs a charging test at an Ionity station and the iX 50 quickly ramps up to 195 kW with 19% left in the battery. The vehicle is charged to 80% in a little over 30 min.

it never hit 195 kW. The youtuber was wrong. The way that charging speed indicator works is is always shows you a bar chart starting at 0 and going until 195 kW and is filled with blue (fading to white apparently to make it even harder to read) to indicate where on that scale your charging at instead of putting the actual number on screen.

[Teutonic]

Either way, thats not what I call a luxury interior…
Au contraire…

[codelilac]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Either way, thats not what I call a luxury interior…
Au contraire…

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Either way, thats not what I call a luxury interior…
Au contraire…

The sad reality is that this obsession with driverless vehicles has changed the term luxury from "high end materials, comfort and ease of use" to "high end materials, extreme minimalism". Concept cars are looking more and more like upscale Scandinavian time shares than they do luxury *cars*.

My two cents.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Salespunk

I don't own an EV, but a 30 minute break every 3-4 hours is not a big deal. Park at the charger, grab a bite to eat, stretch and get back in the car. This is the way most long distance drives are done anyway especially if you have kids.

I beg to differ. If you are in a rush, or if you are driving long distances like we do in Australia, you can have 100Lt of petrol/diesel in petrol cans with you. You certainly can't carry electricity in portable storage like petrol cans.

With a full tank and 100Lt of diesel to spare, you can drive close to 2500km and it takes 15 minutes to empty the cans into you diesel tank. I know this to be true because I've done it many times.

To do the same distance, an EV would have to pull over at least 8 times which is four hours or more to just charge up. Even if it took 10 minutes to fully charge up, it's 80 minutes against 15 minutes and we are still years away from achieving that.

I know my example isn't relevant to most "family trips" but it is still a valid point.

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Either way, thats not what I call a luxury interior…
Au contraire…

you perhaps are not a fan of the styling. To each their own. Feel free to call it ugly if that's how you feel, but it is a luxurious interior.

The one I sat in at the dealer was as nice as my very well equipped X5 if not better. The leather felt nice (the one in the video is a cloth interior but you can get very high quality leather for another 750$ CAD, or in other words less than 1% of the total price), everything I touched felt solid and nothing felt out of place for the price-point. Not to say it was perfect, neither is my X5, but to say it is not luxurious... what part do you feel isn't?

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I beg to differ. If you are in a rush, or if you are driving long distances like we do in Australia, you can have 100Lt of petrol/diesel in petrol cans with you. You certainly can't carry electricity in portable storage like petrol cans.

With a full tank and 100Lt of diesel to spare, you can drive close to 2500km and it takes 15 minutes to empty the cans into you diesel tank. I know this to be true because I've done it many times.

To do the same distance, an EV would have to pull over at least 8 times which is four hours or more to just charge up. Even if it took 10 minutes to fully charge up, it's 80 minutes against 15 minutes and we are still years away from achieving that.

I know my example isn't relevant to most "family trips" but it is still a valid point.

the use case of driving for 25hrs straight, with a 15 minute refueling stop without stopping to eat or rest is not one that is well suited to any current EV. You are correct.

Just don't ask me to come on that road trip with you.

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by Salespunk

I don't own an EV, but a 30 minute break every 3-4 hours is not a big deal. Park at the charger, grab a bite to eat, stretch and get back in the car. This is the way most long distance drives are done anyway especially if you have kids.

That's if there isn't a line up in front of you to use that charger. That's why ICE and hybrids are still so convenient. ~5 mins tops per vehicle to fill (including paying) and you're on your way.

Five cars in front of you is 30mins max wait with gas, with electric five cars in front of you can be 2.5 hours before you can even plug in.

[Hi]

Originally Posted by npa201

Has anybody else done these tests on Tesla's Model Y and X for benchmark purposes. I'm not looking to drive 100mph consistently but don't also expect my behaviors will change to 60mph.

Tom Maloughney has done a 70mph range test in a 2020 Model Y LR and got 249 miles (401km) @ 86F (30C).

Bjorn Nyland has done a 120km (75mph) range test in a Model Y LR and got 221 miles (340km) @ 63F (17C). In a Model X LR Raven, he got 250 miles (402km) @ 65F (18C).

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I beg to differ. If you are in a rush, or if you are driving long distances like we do in Australia, you can have 100Lt of petrol/diesel in petrol cans with you. You certainly can't carry electricity in portable storage like petrol cans.

With a full tank and 100Lt of diesel to spare, you can drive close to 2500km and it takes 15 minutes to empty the cans into you diesel tank. I know this to be true because I've done it many times.

To do the same distance, an EV would have to pull over at least 8 times which is four hours or more to just charge up. Even if it took 10 minutes to fully charge up, it's 80 minutes against 15 minutes and we are still years away from achieving that.

I know my example isn't relevant to most "family trips" but it is still a valid point.

And you do this how often?

I forget who it was (I think it's Mazda?) but one manufacturer is including with the purchase of their EV, up to 10 days / year of loans of an ICE vehicle. Perfect for those once-a-year road trips, instead of the other 354 days where a 200 mile range is MORE than enough.

Really, the "competition" for EV's is most people's worst case scenario imaginations, not reality.

[P1]

Originally Posted by codelilac

The sad reality is that this obsession with driverless vehicles has changed the term luxury from "high end materials, comfort and ease of use" to "high end materials, extreme minimalism". Concept cars are looking more and more like upscale Scandinavian time shares than they do luxury *cars*.

My two cents.

Agree. No problem here with EV vehicles, but please don't make them all look like iPads on wheels.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

the use case of driving for 25hrs straight, with a 15 minute refueling stop without stopping to eat or rest is not one that is well suited to any current EV. You are correct.

Just don't ask me to come on that road trip with you.

I acknowledge, this example was made to highlight the limitation of the current crop of EVs, not so much that I'd go, or encourage you to go on a 25 hour trip with one 15-minute break.

But, if you drive in the Australian outback, where there are hardly people let alone fuel or charging stations, then you'll realise very quickly, there is no room for an EV off-road.

However much the EV may seem appealing to us, it has, and will continue to have it's limitations for the near and medium term