[FISH22]

If you have the HAS kit, you're familiar with how low the rear goes, even at max height. I understand adding more height to the rear likely goes against KW's engineering behind the kit, but I'm no track junky and my car is a full time daily driver. Seems like most people today want the slammed look, but I outgrew that crap many years ago.

I decided to take the plunge on the KW spring spacers. Bought 2 sets (15 & 30mm) for proof of concept. Ended up installing the 15mm. Most of the stuff you'll see online with these, is that they're usually used between a spring and helper spring on their full coilover kits, but there are threads out there where people have used them on the HAS kits.

They drop right in and sit perfectly between the adjustable perch and spring.. no slop or movement. In theory, with the added height from the spacer, the springs likely have more preload now, but I have not noticed a stiffer ride. These added about 10mm past the previous maxed out height, and there's more to go. Pics of hardware below, I'll snap some of the car once the weather is better.

[tom @ eas]

Appreciate the update, haven't come across an install in where these were needed yet out here. Is your Comp 2WD or xDrive?

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Appreciate the update, haven't come across an install in where these were needed yet out here. Is your Comp 2WD or xDrive?

It's a RWD Comp

And most definitely not needed per say.. just an aesthetics thing for me.

[dantm3]

Originally Posted by FISH22

It's a RWD Comp

And most definitely not needed per say.. just an aesthetics thing for me.

Why even install the rear springs if the drop is 15mm and then you are using something to bring it back up 15mm? Why not just do a front kit? Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by dantm3

Why even install the rear springs if the drop is 15mm and then you are using something to bring it back up 15mm? Why not just do a front kit? Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

The rear is still lower than factory. I don't recall the KW advertised rear height adjustment range, but I remember it being a lot lower than I planned for once I installed them. If you go off the recommended rear max height from KW, you're tucking tire, no joke.

Also, I'm not using all of the 15mm spacer. I now have much more play room in the rear.

[dantm3]

Originally Posted by FISH22

The rear is still lower than factory. I don't recall the KW advertised rear height adjustment range, but I remember it being a lot lower than I planned for once I installed them. If you go off the recommended rear max height from KW, you're tucking tire, no joke.

Also, I'm not using all of the 15mm spacer. I now have much more play room in the rear.

So there website says is .2-1.0 inches for rear so 5-25mm or so.. I think all of these suspension companies guesstimate lowering as I have seen them tuck the rear tire on kw in pictures
Here’s a link to the specs:

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/products.html

[par__m3]

Do you have any before-spacer and after-spacer pics of your car?

In any case, good to know these exist. I have a HAS kit waiting for installation and I have seen some complaints about the rear being too low, even at max height.

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by dantm3

So there website says is .2-1.0 inches for rear so 5-25mm or so.. I think all of these suspension companies guesstimate lowering as I have seen them tuck the rear tire on kw in pictures
Here's a link to the specs:

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/products.html

Their claims are definitely misleading. I would say, out of the gate, at their highest setting, the rear is lowered over 20mm. I think the whole 5-25mm is purely the adjustment range.

Originally Posted by par__m3

Do you have any before-spacer and after-spacer pics of your car?

In any case, good to know these exist. I have a HAS kit waiting for installation and I have seen some complaints about the rear being too low, even at max height.

I'll be posting more pics soon once I can get the car in some good light.

[FISH22]

Apologies for the shadows covering the wheel gap. Currently it's a tight one-finger gap. Car is also equipped with 12mm spacers all around.

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by FISH22

Apologies for the shadows covering the wheel gap. Currently it's a tight one-finger gap. Car is also equipped with 12mm spacers all around.

Thats your car with the rear spacer??? Ive seen many lowered on KW without the spacer and they look much higher than that. But maybe I am wrong. Now I'm confused.

Was you rear lower than this members KW setup? He is full height on the rear. It looks like its 1 finger gap. But maybe its an illusion. Now you got me concerned. Because I want finger gap at a minimum. I dont want tucked rear at all.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=61

Heres another member with KW HAS. His car doesnt look tucked in the rear.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1869553

Im supposed to get lowered this week and now Im worried I will be dragging ass vs the front. I want equal wheel gap front and back. 1-1.5 finger gap would be perfect to me.

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Thats your car with the rear spacer??? Ive seen many lowered on KW without the spacer and they look much higher than that. But maybe I am wrong. Now I'm confused.

Was you rear lower than this members KW setup? He is full height on the rear. It looks like its 1 finger gap. But maybe its an illusion. Now you got me concerned. Because I want finger gap at a minimum. I dont want tucked rear at all.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8;postcount=61

Heres another member with KW HAS. His car doesnt look tucked in the rear.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1869553

Im supposed to get lowered this week and now Im worried I will be dragging ass vs the front. I want equal wheel gap front and back. 1-1.5 finger gap would be perfect to me.

Here's mine.. last one has no passenger first 2 has 1 passenger in the front. I have 15mm spacers in the back. I'd also like to raise the rear just a tiny bit but there's no space.. I assumed the spacer he installed on the springs would do that .. not sure why it didn't and not sure why the other two pics you have here have a higher drop in the rear .. I'm lost in the sauce right now …

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Thats your car with the rear spacer??? Ive seen many lowered on KW without the spacer and they look much higher than that. But maybe I am wrong. Now I'm confused.

Was you rear lower than this members KW setup? He is full height on the rear. It looks like its 1 finger gap. But maybe its an illusion. Now you got me concerned. Because I want finger gap at a minimum. I dont want tucked rear at all.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8;postcount=61

Heres another member with KW HAS. His car doesnt look tucked in the rear.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1869553

Im supposed to get lowered this week and now Im worried I will be dragging ass vs the front. I want equal wheel gap front and back. 1-1.5 finger gap would be perfect to me.

Also it seems like they both aren't running PS4's. Which is a difference in stance probably. Mine is ps4 and so is FISH22

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Thats your car with the rear spacer??? Ive seen many lowered on KW without the spacer and they look much higher than that. But maybe I am wrong. Now I'm confused.

Was you rear lower than this members KW setup? He is full height on the rear. It looks like its 1 finger gap. But maybe its an illusion. Now you got me concerned. Because I want finger gap at a minimum. I dont want tucked rear at all.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=61

Heres another member with KW HAS. His car doesnt look tucked in the rear.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1869553

Im supposed to get lowered this week and now Im worried I will be dragging ass vs the front. I want equal wheel gap front and back. 1-1.5 finger gap would be perfect to me.

I'll try to paint a better picture;

So there are a couple different measurements thrown around within these forums...

RECOMMENDED max height from KW: At this height, the tire is nearly tucking. IMO, not a good look. I'm totally aware there was lots of R&D behind this. I'm guessing KW was keeping the balance of the car by maintaining the factory positive rake. This setting also leaves a few threads to be used.

MAX height: This is what you get when you use up ALL the threads on the rear adjusters. In my experience, this was just under a finger gap. Again, still wasn't a fan, and the rear almost had a "sagging" look. Now, I could go quite a bit lower in the front, so that could have cured it. But didn't want to dump the front.

Spring spacers installed: these now give the ability to push the spring PAST the last few threads.

There are a couple other factors at play... obviously lighting, shadows, camber settings (I have not had an alignment yet, so camber is likely at -2 + degrees).

I do need to fine tune the height now. The LR sits a tad higher than the RR.. probably a loose finger gap.

Originally Posted by NKGK20

Here's mine.. last one has no passenger first 2 has 1 passenger in the front. I have 15mm spacers in the back. I'd also like to raise the rear just a tiny bit but there's no space.. I assumed the spacer he installed on the springs would do that .. not sure why it didn't and not sure why the other two pics you have here have a higher drop in the rear .. I'm lost in the sauce right now …

With this spring spacer, it is most definitely higher. Not just judging by the wheel gap, but the actual stance/rake - the car is nearly perfectly level right now. I'll get my actual camera out soon to get some decent shots.

[FISH22]

Better picture of the rear. Lighting is right, so you can see the gap between quarter panel and tire shoulder.

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by FISH22

Better picture of the rear. Lighting is right, so you can see the gap between quarter panel and tire shoulder.

Yep this looks way better. How high did you go with the spacer? And won't the 30mm be too much?

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by FISH22

Better picture of the rear. Lighting is right, so you can see the gap between quarter panel and tire shoulder.

This is the gap I want front and back. So your saying your car has a spacer installed to acheive this? If so, I am holding out on lowering my car. Im not going for the slammed look. Nor do I want to max lower my front to give me the same gap (or lack of) in the rear. What a bummer.

Now I kn0w why everying is saying max height rear and max low or close to it, up front. Because its the only way to get that equal gap. But even then the gap is so small. I like a good solid finger gap front and back.

Dam, Im bummed. I was excited to drop my car.

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by NKGK20

Here's mine.. last one has no passenger first 2 has 1 passenger in the front. I have 15mm spacers in the back. I'd also like to raise the rear just a tiny bit but there's no space.. I assumed the spacer he installed on the springs would do that .. not sure why it didn't and not sure why the other two pics you have here have a higher drop in the rear .. I'm lost in the sauce right now …

Gorgeous car. But I agree. The rear is too low for my taste. Are you max height in the rear?

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Gorgeous car. But I agree. The rear is too low for my taste. Are you max height in the rear?

Yes bro! Lol..

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Gorgeous car. But I agree. The rear is too low for my taste. Are you max height in the rear?

Will have to try out the spacers I guess.. I'd want it to be a little bit higher ..

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by NKGK20

Yes bro! Lol..

Well crap. That confirms that I am not lowering my car right now. I do not want my rear end that low.

I do not want my rear tucked or even close to it. I roll family in my car a lot so I dont want to be rolling down the highway super tucked. Argh! Why did KW not give us more rear height adjustment.

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Well crap. That confirms that I am not lowering my car right now. I do not want my rear end that low.

I do not want my rear tucked or even close to it. I roll family in my car a lot so I dont want to be rolling down the highway super tucked. Argh! Why did KW not give us more rear height adjustment.

I have 3 kids.. it's not that bad really. But yes I'd like it higher. You'd probably have to get the spacers or use hnr. They are not low at all

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Well crap. That confirms that I am not lowering my car right now. I do not want my rear end that low.

I do not want my rear tucked or even close to it. I roll family in my car a lot so I dont want to be rolling down the highway super tucked. Argh! Why did KW not give us more rear height adjustment.

Random question where can I find out how to remove the rear seats… I need to shed weight