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      04-13-2022, 02:54 PM   #1
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When I was at my dealership yesterday playing around with their iX 50 demo, I noticed that a feature I would have liked to use was disabled in Canada.

This was the ability for the car to update the speed set on the cruise control automatically using pre-set offsets for up to 60 km/h speed limits and over 60km/h speed limits. When you went to the screen to configure these settings, it had a nice warning about it not being available in my country.

This along with the auto on/off high beams (as opposed to selectively blanking out parts of the high beams like in other parts of the world) are things that Canadian cars do not have (I know that you can maybe eventually do some coding to add them back in).

Are there others that you are aware of that are disabled likely a result of the build option S8TT "DECODING ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS II" that I see in the VIN dedcoder result for their car?

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In New Zealand we also have the auto adjust of speed limits disabled. Pretty sure this can be overcome with coding :-)

My build sheet shows no decoded functions.
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This along with the auto on/off high beams (as opposed to selectively blanking out parts of the high beams like in other parts of the world) are things that Canadian cars do not have (I know that you can maybe eventually do some coding to add them back in)
That's still not available here? I thought they changed the rules last year or so to make that feature available in new cars now
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      04-13-2022, 05:12 PM   #4
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That's still not available here? I thought they changed the rules last year or so to make that feature available in new cars now
The demo car came with build option S5AP "Decoding Anti-Glare High-Beam-Assistant".

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This along with the auto on/off high beams (as opposed to selectively blanking out parts of the high beams like in other parts of the world) are things that Canadian cars do not have (I know that you can maybe eventually do some coding to add them back in)
That's still not available here? I thought they changed the rules last year or so to make that feature available in new cars now
Matrix/laser lights will not be on NA vehicles. This is from a BMW product manager direct. They may come a year or two into the model run.
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Matrix/laser lights will not be on NA vehicles. This is from a BMW product manager direct. They may come a year or two into the model run.
My order contains laser lights. They may not have the matrix function enabled at this time, but the modules are capable.
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My order contains laser lights. They may not have the matrix function enabled at this time, but the modules are capable.
People have been able to get them coded to work in other cars and will likely be doable with the iX too. But most of us don't do that kind of stuff.
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My order contains laser lights. They may not have the matrix function enabled at this time, but the modules are capable.
Lots of into on the G05 site re-anti-dazzle coding:

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...=Matrix+coding

Downside is it gets replaced with each update, but I suspect coding will be available soon after the general release of iDrive 8 in the wild in the US/NA (where a lot of the decoding of features happens, Europeans apparently being more trustworthy of advanced driving features), so stand by....
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I mean….that European tow hitch would have been really nice…..or just someway to hook up a bike rack…..
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I mean….that European tow hitch would have been really nice…..or just someway to hook up a bike rack…..
Oh for sure.
I don't get why we can't get it either. But I'd likely never use it.

I got an invisihitch for my X4 for 975 USD (tax included, negotiated the install by my dealer for free) and paid for the 750$ CAD hitch option for my X5 when I spec'd it out because my wife insisted on having it "just in case".

I used the X4 hitch once just for the sake of using it to avoid a 100$ delivery fee for some poolside furniture we got when we got our in ground pool built. I of course had to rent a trailer and with the insurance it was probably in the 80$ ballpark in the end if I remember well... so not really worth it in the end since we do not have our own trailer. Used it one more time with a bike rack from Costco that held 4 bikes to go to a campsite where my sister in law was camping, then not long after that, the bike rack was recalled and we were reimbursed for it and have not replaced it.

I will likely be trading in the X5 for the iX and will still not have used the hitch on it. Ah well.
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tow hitch considering the price we pay.
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Matrix/laser lights will not be on NA vehicles. This is from a BMW product manager direct. They may come a year or two into the model run.
My order contains laser lights. They may not have the matrix function enabled at this time, but the modules are capable.
Full functionality is not available for the US, even with the updated NHTSA law.
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This along with the auto on/off high beams (as opposed to selectively blanking out parts of the high beams like in other parts of the world) are things that Canadian cars do not have (I know that you can maybe eventually do some coding to add them back in).
That's unfortunate. ADB & AFS have been legal in canada for some time: https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2018/...ors43-eng.html

Did this setting also give you a GEO block error message?
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That's unfortunate. ADB & AFS have been legal in canada for some time: https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2018/...ors43-eng.html

Did this setting also give you a GEO block error message?
no, it didn't have an error saying it wasn't available in our country but in the iDrive settings for this stuff, I believe it described the auto high beams as auto on/off high beams.

But it has the same decoding option as my X5 (S5AP "Decoding Anti-Glare High-Beam-Assistant") that removes the advance anti-glare features from the laser lights.

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That's unfortunate. ADB & AFS have been legal in canada for some time: https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2018/...ors43-eng.html

Did this setting also give you a GEO block error message?
no, it didn't have an error saying it wasn't available in our country but in the iDrive settings for this stuff, I believe it described the auto high beams as auto on/off high beams.

But it has the same decoding option as my X5 (S5AP "Decoding Anti-Glare High-Beam-Assistant") that removes the advance anti-glare features from the laser lights.
So, theoretically, it could be enabled via a future OTA update then? Maybe once BMW processes the US law change we'll finally get it.
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So, theoretically, it could be enabled via a future OTA update then? Maybe once BMW processes the US law change we'll finally get it.
Is it possible? Yes.
Is it likely? No.

If you really want this feature, I would suggest you learn do to the coding yourself.
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So, theoretically, it could be enabled via a future OTA update then? Maybe once BMW processes the US law change we'll finally get it.
Just looked it up. Seems that ADB (Adaptive Driving Beam) was legalized in the USA on Feb 18 of this year. AFS (Adaptive forward-illumination systems) has been legal in the USA for a while.

Just double checked the EU manual, and confirmed that high beam assistant doesn't need extra buttons on the stock - it's in the iDrive menus. So here is hoping it's just a software unlock! Or as you've said, just do the aftermarket coding
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Just looked it up. Seems that ADB (Adaptive Driving Beam) was legalized in the USA on Feb 18 of this year. AFS (Adaptive forward-illumination systems) has been legal in the USA for a while.

Just double checked the EU manual, and confirmed that high beam assistant doesn't need extra buttons on the stock - it's in the iDrive menus. So here is hoping it's just a software unlock! Or as you've said, just do the aftermarket coding
Having matrix lighting conceptually approved in the CFR, and having it approved for a particular car are two different things. The first step is putting it on the books as a law - done. The second step is, well - want to have your car approved for use on US roads with nifty new lighting, Mr. Manufacturer? Demonstrate that the lighting in your car meets the requirements of the new law. BMW is already on the way with their design, and I'm sure is on track to do that very thing - but it hasn't yet, formally. Just a matter of time, but how much time is the current question....

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Just looked it up. Seems that ADB (Adaptive Driving Beam) was legalized in the USA on Feb 18 of this year. AFS (Adaptive forward-illumination systems) has been legal in the USA for a while.

Just double checked the EU manual, and confirmed that high beam assistant doesn't need extra buttons on the stock - it's in the iDrive menus. So here is hoping it's just a software unlock! Or as you've said, just do the aftermarket coding
Pardon my nubiness, but it's possible to enable full matrix function in the US using aftermarket coding?
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Curious, I was just checking the canadian car configurator, and 'High-Beam Assistant' is listed as a feature. Perhaps the test drive models don't have all the bells and whistles turned on.

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Pardon my nubiness, but it's possible to enable full matrix function in the US using aftermarket coding?
It's been done, and even remotely on the X5 and iDrive 7. I've seen nothing as far as coding on iDrive 8, but I'm sure it's possible and just a matter of time....
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Curious, I was just checking the canadian car configurator, and 'High-Beam Assistant' is listed as a feature. Perhaps the test drive models don't have all the bells and whistles turned on.

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All it does is turn the high beams on and off automatically. Not the advanced anti-glare functions available in Europe and possibly elsewhere.
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