[KevinGS]

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/07/07/...ox-regulation/

If/When this hits the U.S., it will decimate the new car market, and used car prices (especially for sports and high-performance cars) will skyrocket. I guess we knew this was eventually coming...and now, it's here.

[Marcoose]

Eventually, if such a thing as private cars still exist, they’ll all be AVs. Insurance companies will make sure of that. I only have another 20 years of licence left. I’ll fondly remember the good ole days of driving.

[G30M]

i wouldn't worry, if guns can be carried in the USA, no way you will have a spy box in your car lol

[c1pher]

Well, used car market will skyrocket. This is a stupid regulation/law. Next up: thoughtcrime.

[Holset]

I created a thread about this over a year ago but it got deleted i guess because it got a bit political.
So this has been planed for years and i am afraid it will only get worse in the future.

[freakystyly]

From the article:

As for the black box also made mandatory by European officials, it's a device that records and saves data points like the car's speed, the engine's revolutions, the brake and accelerator pedal inputs, the force of the impact, and whether the occupants are wearing a seatbelt 30 seconds before and 10 seconds after an accident. Regulators stress that this information will exclusively be available to law enforcement officials in the event of a crash and to the various government agencies in charge of compiling traffic accident-related data.

I don't know if I should blow minds but all modern cars from the last decade already have this. Maybe not all cars but most... https://rimkus.com/media/pdfs/Event-...us-1.11.21.pdf.. Link is to a pdf from some insurance consulting site of cars equipped with the event data recorders, the list is likely out dated by now.

[Cos270]

This, along with options by subscription only, is just the beginning. You will own nothing and be happy.

[///MPhatic]

If there is a way to do it, there is a way around it.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Yeah, unplug the GPS antenna. Or make a tinfoil hat for it.

I see a new aftermarket mod, carbon fibre faraday cages for GPS antenna.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by G80M4

i wouldn't worry, if guns can be carried in the USA, no way you will have a spy box in your car lol

I'm pretty sure that depends on state specific laws. About carrying guns as you please.

[Mason Hatcher]

"European regulators explain that the system calculates the posted speed limit by analyzing either data from the navigation system or data sent by the traffic sign recognition technology. If it detects that the driver is speeding it can perform one of four actions: send out a visual or acoustic warning (like a warning message in the instrument cluster or a chime), emit a series of vibrations (likely through the steering wheel), provide haptic feedback through the accelerator pedal, or automatically slow the car down to the posted limit. Carmakers are free to choose how the system they adopt reacts."

[Germanauto]

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Organizations like the EU are power hungry. They'll start by asking for something menial then eventually attain full power.

ICE bans, anti-speeding tech, etc. Eventually they'll start notifying police if you speed.

[coonz]

Originally Posted by KevinGS

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/07/07/...ox-regulation/

If/When this hits the U.S., it will decimate the new car market, and used car prices (especially for sports and high-performance cars) will skyrocket. I guess we knew this was eventually coming...and now, it's here.

Don't worry. It can be disabled by the driver. Many cars have the ability to speed limit, that can be set by the driver.

[10"]

"If it detects that the driver is speeding it can perform one of four actions: send out a visual or acoustic warning (like a warning message in the instrument cluster or a chime), emit a series of vibrations (likely through the steering wheel), provide haptic feedback through the accelerator pedal, or automatically slow the car down to the posted limit."


RIP driving. LOOOOL 🤷🏻🤮

[Atavus]

Is this still news? It’s nothing to get excited over really.

[Lewis3D]

They (EU parliament) don't have much smarter to do (sadly) so they "invent" stupid laws.

This is not first crazy thing they "invented" and voted for, like stuff a few years ago when they limited the power of house vacuum cleaners....

[kring]

The tech is not a bad thing and I don’t believe it will ever come to a point where it would be forced on with the mode to intervene with driving. Indicators and awareness is never a bad thing. Black boxes are an excellent idea.

Two scenario’s:
- some looser wants to do 100mph on a back road and looses it killing a family with kids - I am 10000% for releasing that black box on his guilt of driving

- my new to driving teenager, yeah I wouldn’t mind forcefully limiting their speed or getting an alert if doing something highly illegal and dangerous to them and others.

It’s not the tech to fear.

[10"]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

But in the US it is the encroachment on freedom of choice...

No Government can save you from yourself.

Americans don't even have freedom of choice—-we are chained to money like prisoners.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by kring

- my new to driving teenager, yeah I wouldn’t mind forcefully limiting their speed or getting an alert if doing something highly illegal and dangerous to them and others.

It’s not the tech to fear.

In the UK we already have a lot of young drivers using a live 'blackbox' as part of their motor insurance, to keep the cost down.. How they drive directly influences their wallet.

[NickyC]

Meh, no biggie. The folks who love to be controlled will allow it and the rest of us will just go on as usual with work arounds. Meanwhile, the controlled will get upset and triggered which makes it all the more fun for the rest of us. The last 2+ years have been an absolute blast in that regards.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Cos270

This, along with options by subscription only, is just the beginning. You will own nothing and be happy.

Effectively, we already own nothing expect small personal items.

Buy your house in cash? Don't pay the property tax and see how long you still own it.

[Wheelwright]

But this technology can be disabled in Europe, so it doesn't seem like a big deal. It can be useful when you're not in a mood for "spirited driving", or unfamiliar with the road/car, or in many other situations.