Tire rotations not needed??!

jeff3820 · 07-31-2022, 11:45 PM

I had my 2020 X3 xDrive 3.0 in for the second service…basically oil change and cabin air filter. Mileage is just over 11,200 miles. I inquired about tire rotation and the service advisor says “not recommended by BMW and won’t help extend tire wear”. I thought this was just absurd. When I got home I used my tire tread depth micrometer and measured all 4 tires, the stock Bridgestone Alenza on 19” wheels…in a square setup. All 4 tires were fairly close with the rears showing approximately 0.2-0.3mm more wear. Overall average about 6.5mm for inside and center treads and outside tread about 5.5-6.0mm. I’m still inclined to rotate the tires front to back.

Opinions?

OciWan · 07-31-2022, 11:49 PM

Maybe the SA didn't bother to look and just assumed you had a staggered setup.

AFAIK rotating on a square setup should always help extend the tire life.

Dilbert2402 · 08-01-2022, 03:49 AM

After 44k miles I'm still running on the original fronts and with it being a lease car I can't get them changed because the centre 75% is still at 4mm despite the fact that the outer 50mm of the tyre is bald. I keep wondering if the carcass of the tyre will be exposed before it reaches 2mm in the middle. The rears were replaced about 10k miles ago.

thenew3 · 08-07-2022, 08:58 PM

I've owned nothing but german cars for the last 27+ years. In both RWD and AWD. I find the tires wear at very similar rates between front and rear (more so in AWD). I've never rotated and found that by the time the rear tires are worn down to replacement tread depth, the front is due to be replaced as well.
The near 50/50 weight balance helps with even wear.

doug_999 · 08-08-2022, 10:02 AM

BMW had some good reasons for this (even with square setups)- and they sort of make sense. From memory...

Moving the tires to new locations can upset the balance of the car - even if for a short period of time

and

most importantly, the cost to rotate tires on a regular basis will exceed the savings you might get with extended tire life.

Here is some more fun stuff
https://www.cartalk.com/content/owne...otated%20tires.

Raphael X4 · 08-08-2022, 11:09 AM

50% of all turns are right turns.

doug_999 · 08-08-2022, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raphael X4

50% of all turns are right turns.

51%

OciWan · 08-08-2022, 11:27 AM

Are the other 50 percent wrong turns 😆

07-31-2022, 11:45 PM	#1
jeff3820 Private First Class 94 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X3 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Midwest iTrader: (0)	Tire rotations not needed??! I had my 2020 X3 xDrive 3.0 in for the second service…basically oil change and cabin air filter. Mileage is just over 11,200 miles. I inquired about tire rotation and the service advisor says “not recommended by BMW and won’t help extend tire wear”. I thought this was just absurd. When I got home I used my tire tread depth micrometer and measured all 4 tires, the stock Bridgestone Alenza on 19” wheels…in a square setup. All 4 tires were fairly close with the rears showing approximately 0.2-0.3mm more wear. Overall average about 6.5mm for inside and center treads and outside tread about 5.5-6.0mm. I’m still inclined to rotate the tires front to back. Opinions?
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OciWan Second Lieutenant 238 Rep 287 Posts Drives: 2022 X4 m40i Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 X4m40i [10.00]	Maybe the SA didn't bother to look and just assumed you had a staggered setup. AFAIK rotating on a square setup should always help extend the tire life.
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Dilbert2402 Second Lieutenant 87 Rep 280 Posts Drives: X3 G01 30e Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Hampshire, England iTrader: (0)	After 44k miles I'm still running on the original fronts and with it being a lease car I can't get them changed because the centre 75% is still at 4mm despite the fact that the outer 50mm of the tyre is bald. I keep wondering if the carcass of the tyre will be exposed before it reaches 2mm in the middle. The rears were replaced about 10k miles ago.
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08-07-2022, 08:58 PM	#4
thenew3 Lieutenant Colonel 661 Rep 1,615 Posts Drives: 2020 X7, 2016 X3, 2021 MME Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Central coast CA iTrader: (0)	I've owned nothing but german cars for the last 27+ years. In both RWD and AWD. I find the tires wear at very similar rates between front and rear (more so in AWD). I've never rotated and found that by the time the rear tires are worn down to replacement tread depth, the front is due to be replaced as well. The near 50/50 weight balance helps with even wear.
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doug_999 Brigadier General 2545 Rep 3,968 Posts Drives: 2011 1M/2021 992/2023 X3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	BMW had some good reasons for this (even with square setups)- and they sort of make sense. From memory... Moving the tires to new locations can upset the balance of the car - even if for a short period of time and most importantly, the cost to rotate tires on a regular basis will exceed the savings you might get with extended tire life. Here is some more fun stuff https://www.cartalk.com/content/owne...otated%20tires. __________________ 2011 1M, Black loaded sans sat radio 2021 911 C4S Gentian Blue, manual 2023 X3 M40i - loaded sans Park Assist
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Raphael X4 Private 30 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2021 BMW X4 Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	50% of all turns are right turns.
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08-08-2022, 11:27 AM	#8
OciWan Second Lieutenant 238 Rep 287 Posts Drives: 2022 X4 m40i Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 X4m40i [10.00]	Are the other 50 percent wrong turns 😆
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