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      01-24-2023, 07:19 AM   #1
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KW HAS or H&R VTF

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I am looking to install a HAS system on my G81 and the 2 options I am considering are KW and H&R

I know the KW problems in the beginning with the rear springs for G80 but I guess now it is solved right?
Can someone who installed them recently that with the new longer springs there is no more a problem in the rear?
Some pics would be really helpful

Anyway the KW kit for G81 has a different part number so I guess they won’t be making the same mistake they did with G80

I have seen positive for H&R not many but pretty good.
There are more reviews for KW Has at this moment for sure.

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I'd pick the H&R VTF, that's what I have on my car and I'm very happy with it.

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I'd pick the H&R VTF, that's what I have on my car and I'm very happy with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taYZCIpadiI
Thank you for this! I read all the threads and looks like everyone is happy with the H&R.
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Thank you for this! I read all the threads and looks like everyone is happy with the H&R.
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Thank you for this! I read all the threads and looks like everyone is happy with the H&R.
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what did you decide? i am thinking of going front eibach 20 mm only....also g81
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what did you decide? i am thinking of going front eibach 20 mm only....also g81
Well I decided to go with KW HAS. Seems to have the most reviews and considering that M Performance adjustable springs are also made by KW I decided to go with them.
I got also a real good deal on a set including installation.
I think is going to be what I want.
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Well I decided to go with KW HAS. Seems to have the most reviews and considering that M Performance adjustable springs are also made by KW I decided to go with them.
I got also a real good deal on a set including installation.
I think is going to be what I want.
KW's close relationship with BMW Motorsport ensures that same technology/experience is carried throughout the entire KW product line.

More info about KW Suspensions and BMW Motorsport here: https://www.kwsuspensions.com/bmw-motorsport
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Well I decided to go with KW HAS. Seems to have the most reviews and considering that M Performance adjustable springs are also made by KW I decided to go with them.
I got also a real good deal on a set including installation.
I think is going to be what I want.
make sure to post plenty of pictures
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KW's close relationship with BMW Motorsport ensures that same technology/experience is carried throughout the entire KW product line.

More info about KW Suspensions and BMW Motorsport here: https://www.kwsuspensions.com/bmw-motorsport
Appreciate that often forgotten detail about the relationship btwn KW & BMW. thanks
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Went and visited with the owners of A&A Performance in Norcross, GA today so I could take a look at one of their M4's which is lowered on an H&R VTF HAS and has an aftermarket mid-pipe connected to the M Perf axle-back exhaust.

I asked for these pictures so I could see my stock suspension/wheels & tires compared directly against his H&R kit.

You be the judge but this made me realize how high the stock suspension really is!
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Went and visited with the owners of A&A Performance in Norcross, GA today so I could take a look at one of their M4's which is lowered on an H&R VTF HAS and has an aftermarket mid-pipe connected to the M Perf axle-back exhaust.

I asked for these pictures so I could see my stock suspension/wheels & tires compared directly against his H&R kit.

You be the judge but this made me realize how high the stock suspension really is!
Lowering this car is a game changer; for some reason, the front grill looks out of place with stock suspension, and it's perfect as soon as the car is dropped.
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Lowering this car is a game changer; for some reason, the front grill looks out of place with stock suspension, and it's perfect as soon as the car is dropped.
Mike you still like the H&R VTF kit? At first I wanted the Eibach fronts. But now I believe I wont be happy unless I get a perfect 1" drop. But, I love the way the stock suspension rides.

How would you compare the VTF kit to stock as far as comfort (in efficient) and sport plus?
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Mike you still like the H&R VTF kit? At first I wanted the Eibach fronts. But now I believe I wont be happy unless I get a perfect 1" drop. But, I love the way the stock suspension rides.

How would you compare the VTF kit to stock as far as comfort (in efficient) and sport plus?
Its still one of my favorite mods

I did not notice a noticeable drop in ride quality
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