[Tuxon_Speed]

In case anyone was wondering and want a more aggressive wheel setup.

Two piece wheels.

Front: 19x9.5 +5 offset - stock tires PS4S

Rear: 20x11 +8 offset - 305/30/20 Toyo r555

Was worried that the 305s would fit but they do perfectly.

Unfortunately, the front wheels hit on the brake caliper so I have to go up to a 20 inch wheel in the front.

So if you plan on running two piece wheels, just know that the inner barrel is too small on a 19 inch wheel.

After realizing that the front wheels don’t fit, I called VT Forged and without question offered to send out two new 20 inch front wheels free of charge. Pretty solid company if you ask me.


Here is the full video!


https://youtu.be/WEN7inUyXiY

[ourlee]

Wheel $?
Wheel weights?

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

In case anyone was wondering and want a more aggressive wheel setup.

Two piece wheels.

Front: 19x9.5 +5 offset - stock tires PS4S

Rear: 20x11 +8 offset - 305/30/20 Toyo r555

Was worried that the 305s would fit but they do perfectly.

Unfortunately, the front wheels hit on the brake caliper so I have to go up to a 20 inch wheel in the front.

So if you plan on running two piece wheels, just know that the inner barrel is too small on a 19 inch wheel.

After realizing that the front wheels don’t fit, I called VT Forged and without question offered to send out two new 20 inch front wheels free of charge. Pretty solid company if you ask me.


Here is the full video!


https://youtu.be/WEN7inUyXiY

That would make sense. When I ordered my Vossens, they had already researched the sizing and fitment and told me what would fit and sizes to get. I was told 20×11 rears with a 295/30/20 or 305/30/20 and 20x9.5 fronts with 275/30/20.

[KevM2]

Very nice looking wheels!! I would’ve also thought that front spec would clear the calipers given the smaller offset compared to stock (+5 vs +20) but I guess it also has to do with amount of concavity that would allow it to clear the caliper

[Charley135]

did you install 2 different brand of tire on the car?
everyone says it's highly not recommended

[Tuxon_Speed]

Originally Posted by Charley135

did you install 2 different brand of tire on the car?
everyone says it's highly not recommended

Since the fronts were stock wheel size I put on the PS4S that come stock. I went with a different tire in the rear because I have problems with traction.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

Since the fronts were stock wheel size I put on the PS4S that come stock. I went with a different tire in the rear because I have problems with traction.

Yup...PS4S with a tuned car are useless.

[Tuxon_Speed]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Yup...PS4S with a tuned car are useless.

Exactly lol I’m on skates until third gear 😂

[Tuxon_Speed]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Very nice looking wheels!! I would’ve also thought that front spec would clear the calipers given the smaller offset compared to stock (+5 vs +20) but I guess it also has to do with amount of concavity that would allow it to clear the caliper

It actually clears the front of the caliper. It’s the top, bottom and the bolts that connect the caliper to the hub.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

Exactly lol I’m on skates until third gear 😂

What rears did you wind up going with?

[Tuxon_Speed]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

What rears did you wind up going with?

The Nitto NT555G2. I’ve heard good thing about them. Seems like right between the PS4S and R888s

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

The Nitto NT555G2. I’ve heard good thing about them. Seems like right between the PS4S and R888s

They aren't that sticky, maybe a touch better than the PS4S. The 555R2s are the ones you want. I had an order in for months on the R2s and NT05s but Nitto has had production issues. They are both backordered with no eta (Nitto told me it might not be until 2024).

The R888s dont come in 305/30/20, only 305/35/20 and those wont fit according to Vossen.

[aerobod]

If you are looking for traction at a reasonable price (i.e similar to the Michelin Cup 2 tyres at 60% of the price), the Nankang AR-1s are available in 305/30-20. Stickier than the R888Rs once warmed up.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by aerobod

If you are looking for traction at a reasonable price (i.e similar to the Michelin Cup 2 tyres at 60% of the price), the Nankang AR-1s are available in 305/30-20. Stickier than the R888Rs once warmed up.

I looked at them however they are designed for track (as are the Cup 2s) and not as much as a sticky (barely) compliant drag radial. Track designed tires have a stiffer sidewall compared to drag radials. Also, price is not that much cheaper. Only 10% less than Cup 2s.

I went with the Atturo AZ850DRs. Super sticky and at $325 a tire, the price was more than right.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

I looked at them however they are designed for track (as are the Cup 2s) and not as much as a sticky (barely) compliant drag radial. Track designed tires have a stiffer sidewall compared to drag radials. Also, price is not that much cheaper. Only 10% less than Cup 2s.

I went with the Atturo AZ850DRs. Super sticky and at $325 a tire, the price was more than right.

I see the AR-1s seem to be more in the US compared with Canada. In the 305/30-20 size they are equivalent of US$400 here, compared with US$650 for the Cup 2s. If the R888Rs are the comparable tyre, I was surprised how good the AR-1s are for dry road and track use, not far off Hoosier slicks in lap times, but with better feel. They work well on the road too, much better than the RE-71Rs I had previously used as road tyres on my Caterham, as long as there isn't any standing water.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I see the AR-1s seem to be more in the US compared with Canada. In the 305/30-20 size they are equivalent of US$400 here, compared with US$700 for the Cup 2s. If the R888Rs are the comparable tyre, I was surprised how good the AR-1s are for dry road and track use, not far off Hoosier slicks in lap times, but with better feel. They work well on the road too, much better than the RE-71Rs I had previously used as road tyres on my Caterham, as long as there isn't any standing water.

I agree the Nankangs are a top choice for track use. Here in the US, I can get the AR1s for $478 ea free shipping or Cup 2s at $540 ea free shipping. The Nitto NT01s are a great track tire, too...but backordered.

The best drag radial are the 555R2s, better than the 888s. In the size I need, one is backordered and one isn't made in the size.

The RE71Rs are not in the same league. I even looked into M&H drag radials (I ran their slicks on my Maverick Grabber in Gainesville...12.5 to 1, 550 solid lift, custom heads with oversized Chevy valves).but they are also backordered.

[AZG87]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

They aren't that sticky, maybe a touch better than the PS4S. The 555R2s are the ones you want. I had an order in for months on the R2s and NT05s but Nitto has had production issues. They are both backordered with no eta (Nitto told me it might not be until 2024).

The R888s dont come in 305/30/20, only 305/35/20 and those wont fit according to Vossen.

Yup those 555r2 can hook power but also handle dd duties like rain. Ran those on the s550 for quite some time. Only prob is tread life isn't great since they start at 6 but what do you expect from a DR.

[Charley135]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I see the AR-1s seem to be more in the US compared with Canada. In the 305/30-20 size they are equivalent of US$400 here, compared with US$650 for the Cup 2s. If the R888Rs are the comparable tyre, I was surprised how good the AR-1s are for dry road and track use, not far off Hoosier slicks in lap times, but with better feel. They work well on the road too, much better than the RE-71Rs I had previously used as road tyres on my Caterham, as long as there isn't any standing water.

try the goodyear supercar 3r (oem tires for tha camaro zl1 1le)
they are really impressive track tire, a lot faster than the nt01.
but they don't last long

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Charley135

try the goodyear supercar 3r (oem tires for tha camaro zl1 1le)
they are really impressive track tire, a lot faster than the nt01.
but they don't last long

Those are track tires, and not very good ones (and for shits and giggles dont even come in my size). If I want a track tire, I have plenty of options. For street drag radial, that is the issue (and shortage in needed size). Track tires and drag radials are very much different tires.

I am not concerned about tire life, no drag radial (or true track tire) has a lot of life. However, burning through a set of PS4Ss cause they dont have the grip under the power load will not give a lot of life, either (plus wont perform well).

[T4dey]

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

In case anyone was wondering and want a more aggressive wheel setup.

Two piece wheels.

Front: 19x9.5 +5 offset - stock tires PS4S

Rear: 20x11 +8 offset - 305/30/20 Toyo r555

Was worried that the 305s would fit but they do perfectly.

Unfortunately, the front wheels hit on the brake caliper so I have to go up to a 20 inch wheel in the front.

So if you plan on running two piece wheels, just know that the inner barrel is too small on a 19 inch wheel.

After realizing that the front wheels don’t fit, I called VT Forged and without question offered to send out two new 20 inch front wheels free of charge. Pretty solid company if you ask me.


Here is the full video!


https://youtu.be/WEN7inUyXiY

Hey Tuxon, appreciate the post and videos!
Happen to know the inner diameter of the 19” wheel now?

I’m trying to spec a winter wheel/tire combo and that info would be great to have.

[Tuxon_Speed]

Originally Posted by T4dey

Hey Tuxon, appreciate the post and videos!
Happen to know the inner diameter of the 19” wheel now?

I’m trying to spec a winter wheel/tire combo and that info would be great to have.

I’ll have to measure it. But it shouldn’t be an issue unless you’re trying to run two piece wheels.

[GT3M2]

Originally Posted by T4dey

Hey Tuxon, appreciate the post and videos!
Happen to know the inner diameter of the 19” wheel now?

I’m trying to spec a winter wheel/tire combo and that info would be great to have.

Check Apex wheels, they have a 18 that clears.

-GT3M2