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      10-18-2023, 01:36 PM   #1
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G87: Continued Driving Possible: Chassis Error. KW Haas Installer

Just lowered the car on the KW Haas and I drove it and immediately saw an error on the screen that says “continue driving possible: Chasis”.

Any idea what it could be. Car feels like EDC isn’t active on it as it’s pretty bouncy maybe or stuck in sport mode.

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check the connectors at the top of the strut. I am 99% sure that one is loose or damaged. I broke one of my connectors (they are really weak). I drove with the chassis error for like a month waiting for a new connector.
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check the connectors at the top of the strut. I am 99% sure that one is loose or damaged. I broke one of my connectors (they are really weak). I drove with the chassis error for like a month waiting for a new connector.
This.
Seen few installer forgot to plug-in the EDC.
Worst case scenario, installer damaged the speed sensor.
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      10-19-2023, 07:31 PM   #4
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How would we know which one is damaged, do we need to have a Bmw specific scanner? He went back and looked at everything and it looked like it was all plugged in.
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There's no scanner that I know of to detect this.
Have a look under your hood above your struts for this boot. Pull it off and slide it a bit down the cable so you can see the connector better. Make sure that the connector is pushed all the way down on the strut. If you can't see the 10mm hex then it is down far enough.
If it won't cover up the hex then pull the connector off and inspect the pins to make sure that they aren't bent and that the connector is lined up correctly. It is easy to screw this up and it doesn't really click or anything when it is fully seated so there isn't good confirmation that the connector is on correctly.
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How would we know which one is damaged, do we need to have a Bmw specific scanner? He went back and looked at everything and it looked like it was all plugged in.
AFAIK, you’ll need ISTA.
Not sure about other 3rd party scanner that’ll do it.
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I forgot to mention that if your front connectors are fully seated then you will have to check the rears which is not as easy.
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So the saga continues, looks like on the right side the on the front looks like the pin is broke on one side. Pictures attached.

The issue is the part number that I found for the G87 is 33-507-885-882 which is on a worldwide back order.

What do you anticipate the solution would be right now to fix this. Anyone have any ideas? I was looking at trying the G80/82 plugs but apparently the connectors are different (Why would BMW not just make it easy LOL)
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The top of the damper rod where the electrical connection fits also seems to be damaged due to being hammered, although the photos are not quite clear enough to be certain. The edge should be smooth and clean. The burr there may impede the connector seating correctly.
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hopefully not the case, that would suck even more.
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One more reason to have the port installation.
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There is still hope here.
In my case, I slightly deformed the 10mm hex during installation of the MillWay Camber plates and it looks like you did as well. If the connector is still intact (difficult to tell from your picture) try removing the rubber seal around it and see if that will allow you to install the connector. It is a really tight fit and if the hex is deformed then the seal will cause some interference. Just put some dielectric grease on there and you will be protected. Also, make sure that the pins inside are straight.

The whole setup is incredibly fragile and is a really bad design in my opinion.
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So the saga continues, looks like on the right side the on the front looks like the pin is broke on one side. Pictures attached.

The issue is the part number that I found for the G87 is 33-507-885-882 which is on a worldwide back order.
BTW I ordered the same part number (33-50-7-885-882) but I had to go through several different sites before I found a solution. They all said that they had it in stock but then they would email me and say that did not. Habberstad BMW told me that they would have to "order it from Germany, do you still want it?" insinuating it would take a long time. I got the part within a week.
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The whole setup is incredibly fragile and is a really bad design in my opinion.
It is designed for assembly / disassembly with the correct tools and procedures. I don't see any issue overall, it has to be treated like a precision system such as would be the case with computer components, though, not with the approach that would be used on a traditional suspension system. This also applies to other electrical connections throughout the car. First step should be to consult ISTA / TIS before doing anything else.
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Just scheduled an appointment for Monday at a mod friendly dealer, let's see what he can read and go from there. Hopefully he can just cover it under warranty.
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Just scheduled an appointment for Monday at a mod friendly dealer, let's see what he can read and go from there. Hopefully he can just cover it under warranty.

Mod friendly dealership...
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Just scheduled an appointment for Monday at a mod friendly dealer, let's see what he can read and go from there. Hopefully he can just cover it under warranty.
If it were the bmw has kit installed by a dealer sure but good luck with that. Most dealers anymore have to get warranty worked approved outside the dealer because manufacturers are sick of dealers and the good ol boy system costing them money. Who ever installed it and messed it up is who you go after if they wont fix it live and learn.
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Yeah whoever installed this stuff for you messed it up and should be on the hook for repairs. If you installed yourself then take it as learning, if you had someone install it, then you should take it back to them. If you have a nice dealer it would be cool of them to help you diagnose, but it’s really asking them for free work at this point…

I have two very highly modified and customized vehicles, with many custom parts and add ons, and in that process I came to realize there are very very few shops that truly have the attention to detail, patience, and interest in following directions. Most come up with their way of doing it and say it’s good enough, and when you have a problem, it’s a shrug and finger pointing.

At least you have a warning message that alerted you the install was botched. After reading the MP HAS instructions, I think lot of people will have their front struts damaged in install (whether cosmetically or functionally, leading to premature failure).

Keep us posted on what the dealer says, and I second the recommendation above to try and order the part from a few places as parts can come in quickly from Germany, especially small ones.
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Just scheduled an appointment for Monday at a mod friendly dealer, let's see what he can read and go from there. Hopefully he can just cover it under warranty.
Sounds like a (nother) good plan.
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GRRRRRRR
I had my wife take my M2 to the dealership for an alignment. I called about 15 other shops and no one wanted to touch the alignment on an M2 but that another story.

Anyway, I gave written instructions for what I wanted done for the alignment and they reluctantly agreed. One of my instructions was to not touch the adjustable camber plates. I wanted them to get to my desired spec using the standard adjustment points. Well after the alignment was complete the tech was curious about what the camber plates looked like so he pulled the trim and the boot on the EDC........ and........ he broke the EDC connector

Now I have to wait for another month for a new cable to arrive and I have to look at that annoying "Chassis Error" message that won't go away.
I stand by what I said- that EDC cable is a bad design.
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Sorry for the post hi-jack but I wanted to add something else to help those who might be searching this in the future.
As of today I still do not have an EDC cable. Earlier in the month while at the track I lost the ability to turn off DSC or use MDM. There was no error and no code that I could pick up with scanners (I don't have ISTA). If I was parked I could turn off DSC and then set MDM to whatever traction control setting I wanted but as soon as I started to move DSC would turn back on. The week prior at the track I had full control of DSC and MDM even though I had the chassis error from a missing EDC connection.
I did a lot of research and couldn't find a reason for the DSC to act this way. Tonight I got a bit impatient so I made my own EDC cable and reconnected my strut. When I went for a test drive the chassis error was gone and I had full control over DSC and MDM.
My theory is that at some point (miles, time, speed?) if you have a chassis error due to the EDC circuit you will lose the ability to turn off DSC. So if you are ever unable to turn off DSC or set MDM then check out the EDC cables.
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GRRRRRRR
I had my wife take my M2 to the dealership for an alignment. I called about 15 other shops and no one wanted to touch the alignment on an M2 but that another story.

Anyway, I gave written instructions for what I wanted done for the alignment and they reluctantly agreed. One of my instructions was to not touch the adjustable camber plates. I wanted them to get to my desired spec using the standard adjustment points. Well after the alignment was complete the tech was curious about what the camber plates looked like so he pulled the trim and the boot on the EDC........ and........ he broke the EDC connector

Now I have to wait for another month for a new cable to arrive and I have to look at that annoying "Chassis Error" message that won't go away.
I stand by what I said- that EDC cable is a bad design.
Damn, that’s messed up. How did you make your own EDC cable?
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