[nicozzz]

Hello,
we got our 25e before summer and it has been going well, quite happy (only drawbacks are a few software bugs here and there...). We have now reached 10.000 km (about 6000 miles). This is the first hybrid vehicle for us.

Since one week, the indicated electric range in the dashboard, after a full charge, dropped considerably: from 75/80 km (46/50 miles) to 52/55 km (32/35 miles) (we always set the limit at 90%). The real range is even lower: we drove for about 20 km (12 miles), and the estimation decreased of 37 km (23 miles).

I know that in winter batteries are less performant, but I was expecting a more gradual decrease, not such a sudden change. Here in east France, it is getting colder (from 20C/68F to 10C/50F), but we are not yet in winter, so I am bit worried that the range will keep dropping.

We called the dealer, they said that the car might have adjusted the range due to a change of driving habits: it is true that we went on a long trip the weekend before (highway, mainly using the petrol engine), but we also did the same in the past. We waited a week of normal city driving, and the range did not adjust back.
It might be a coincidence, but the range drastically decreased after the last software update.

If you live in an area with similar outside temperatures, are you experiencing the same with your X1 PHEV?
Is it worth it to have the car checked?

Thanks!

[Tsapetro]

This is the world of the electric vehicles. Glad u have an ICE in there also. Just go to a gas station fill it up. In winter electric vehicles are ridiculous.

[MontyB1]

You haven’t said what the actual temperatures are or the lows anyway. It is true that many factors are at play, how hard you drive the car, how hilly it is, how cold it is will all have a bearing on the actual range, even the kit the car has. Plus if it is cold the electric heater, seats wheel, the lights being on more again all have an effect.

One thing you can do is preheat when it’s connected to the charger that will then not affect the range which can help.

[MontyB1]

Just as an addition just checked outs it 7 degrees outside and she went for a very small journey and it lost 7% and at 83% charge left it’s got 30 miles in it. That would normally be about 45miles in the summer.

The joys and drawbacks of electric cars. ICE cars do suffer in the cold as well with longer warm up and more fuel usage before it heats but not to the same extent.

[gqbriel]

Dont worry - its the same for everyone.Outside temp drops - car needs more energy as it needs more consumption and doesnt have enough temp.

For ex a month ago on e-drive my range on 100% was 75-85 - now when the temp drop its about 60 which is ok.

Try precondition the car before leaving if connected to charger is a good practice also.

[nicozzz]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

You haven’t said what the actual temperatures are or the lows anyway. It is true that many factors are at play, how hard you drive the car, how hilly it is, how cold it is will all have a bearing on the actual range, even the kit the car has. Plus if it is cold the electric heater, seats wheel, the lights being on more again all have an effect.

One thing you can do is preheat when it’s connected to the charger that will then not affect the range which can help.

I have update the post adding the temperature, in one week temperature here changed from 20C/68F to 10C/50F average during the day.

In general, I am just surprised because I was expecting a more gradual drop, and not a sudden 30% drop from one day to another.
Let's see what is going happen when snow will come.

Before going for a full electric, I think that I will really have to make some calculations of the recharging costs and range in winter, and compare them to an ICE car.

[Rojsmith]

I’m glad to see I’m not the only one!

Im in the same boat here. I used to get 48 miles on the battery, but now the same roads I’m getting it display at 43 when I get in the car, but ends up being 40 normally, this is even with pre conditioning.

Even today I getting about the same miles per kWh (just over 3) but the range is still low.

Looking at the kWh usage it looks like I’ve done 12kwh today - which works out right for the miles I’ve done (38)

Anyone know any reason the car isn’t recognising the other 4kwh of battery? I know it keeps some to help with xDrive etc but I always thought it was in addition to the 16kwh usable!

[MontyB1]

How the car manages the entire battery vs what it lets the customer use is a mystery unfortunately. As you say it does seem to offer some extra power / xDrive when it's needed and hold a reserve for those scenarios.

Will be interesting to see how the car does in minus temperatures, worse I expect but it still warms up fast even without the pre-conditioning after than my ICE X3.

[Tunners]

Originally Posted by Rojsmith

Anyone know any reason the car isn’t recognising the other 4kwh of battery? I know it keeps some to help with xDrive etc but I always thought it was in addition to the 16kwh usable!

The battery size is 16.3kwh gross with a usable figure of 14.2kwh.

[Rojsmith]

Originally Posted by Tunners

The battery size is 16.3kwh gross with a usable figure of 14.2kwh.

Interesting, I thought it was 16 usable, especially I always seem to be putting in around at 16kw of charge every night at the minute, or more if I’m preconditioning

[Tunners]

I have put in more than 14.2 on occasions. I presume it takes some to prepare the battery for charging as driving doesn’t warm the battery enough.

[a0krn]

Anyone know if you can reset driving transmission on the bmw x1 2023? Will it be the same procedure?

Dealer said driving habits so logically it’ll be good after resetting right?

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by Rojsmith

Interesting, I thought it was 16 usable, especially I always seem to be putting in around at 16kw of charge every night at the minute, or more if I’m preconditioning

You lose some in the transfer to the car converting the AC to DC ofter about 10% ish. So what leaves the socket isn't exactly what gets added into the car there are losses along the way unfortunately it's the same for all EVs but rarely talked about.

[Rojsmith]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

You lose some in the transfer to the car converting the AC to DC ofter about 10% ish. So what leaves the socket isn't exactly what gets added into the car there are losses along the way unfortunately it's the same for all EVs but rarely talked about.

Ahh i see, it’s interesting to learn all about how it works! I just went off the BMW all that it told me it put 😂