R&T has new M3 0-60 at 4.1

Robert · 12-26-2007, 10:56 PM

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6283

BForbes · 12-26-2007, 11:22 PM

where does it say 4.1sec??? NEVERMIND. FOUND IT!! GOOD LORD!

~AJ · 12-26-2007, 11:41 PM

That M3 came equipped with the optional flux capacitor!

~AJ · 12-26-2007, 11:44 PM

3,650 lbs?!!!

BForbes · 12-26-2007, 11:46 PM

BMW needs to build a CSL. Shave some weight, bump some power and lets go hunting! 4.1 seconds. Damn!!

my07blkgti · 12-26-2007, 11:52 PM

Thats a sick 0-60mph time. Maybe with some mods(intake, chip, full exhuast), it might just hit 0-60 in the 3 second range.

BForbes · 12-27-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by my07blkgti

Thats a sick 0-60mph time. Maybe with some mods(intake, chip, full exhuast), it might just hit 0-60 in the 3 second range.

Not even man. Just wait for the DCT tranny that debuts next year. I'll put money that it will do 3.9seconds at most!!! M3's were never that FAST...they were pretty and handled well. Ya know, evoked emotion. This thing is FAST!!

larryn · 12-27-2007, 12:33 AM

Okay, BMW claims 4.8 sec to 60mph with the new M3.... Hmmm. Wonder what our little 135i is capable off, since BMW claims it's a 5.1 sec car. I'm assuming 4.6 - 4.7???

turbomg · 12-27-2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by my07blkgti

Thats a sick 0-60mph time. Maybe with some mods(intake, chip, full exhuast), it might just hit 0-60 in the 3 second range.

Man, I dunno. If I was in the M3 market (and I guess I could be if I had the patience, but I don't), I'd be hesitant to do too much to this marvelous V8. Maybe I have too much respect for the M engineers, or maybe I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid, but find a dyno of the new engine and try to tell me that it is not completely fucking amazing.

A torque "curve" that curves about as much as a table-top has to be some kind of crazy German voodoo magic. I think I'd be fairly content to leave it be.

my07blkgti · 12-27-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

Not even man. Just wait for the DCT tranny that debuts next year. I'll put money that it will do 3.9seconds at most!!! M3's were never that FAST...they were pretty and handled well. Ya know, evoked emotion. This thing is FAST!!

You might just be right! Because with the MKV GTI they got the DSG tranny that is much quicker than my manual. I guess we will see.

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Originally Posted by turbomg

Man, I dunno. If I was in the M3 market (and I guess I could be if I had the patience, but I don't), I'd be hesitant to do too much to this marvelous V8. Maybe I have too much respect for the M engineers, or maybe I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid, but find a dyno of the new engine and try to tell me that it is not completely fucking amazing.

A torque "curve" that curves about as much as a table-top has to be some kind of crazy German voodoo magic. I think I'd be fairly content to leave it be.

True but you know when you are an enthusiest, the mod bug always gets you and there is ALWAYS something to improve.

When I saw that flat torque curve I was in complete shock...I dont think I ever saw such a flat torque curve that goes all the way to redline.

Dave · 12-27-2007, 08:25 AM

Wow impressive numbers I figure ours will do it in 4.9 range

atr_hugo · 12-27-2007, 08:28 AM

I need to read the article - but having subscribed to and read R&T for the past 40 years, I can tell you, their numbers are usually conservative. Look for Motor Trend to get into the 3s. ; -)

MrRoboto · 12-27-2007, 01:04 PM

So....with a software flash we will be getting ~the same power in our 1s...The 135 is going to be VERY fast.

BForbes · 12-27-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

I need to read the article - but having subscribed to and read R&T for the past 40 years, I can tell you, their numbers are usually conservative. Look for Motor Trend to get into the 3s. ; -)

I dunno Hugo. 4.1 is the fastest yet. I've seen 4.3 and 4.5 even. Maybe BMW slightly tweaked the car after the first rags got their cars from them. I hope so!! Its about time the M3 is as fast as the M5 and M6. 71MPH in the slalom is NOTHING to sneeze at.

atr_hugo · 12-27-2007, 01:25 PM

If you look at how R&T does their testing, you can get a feel for why their numbers are relatively conservative. I don't know why that number is so discrepant from BMWs number though. I thought it might be a typo but the graph of time to speed verified it, go figure.

BForbes · 12-27-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

If you look at how R&T does their testing, you can get a feel for why their numbers are relatively conservative. I don't know why that number is so discrepant from BMWs number though. I thought it might be a typo but the graph of time to speed verified it, go figure.

That is kinda weird how BMW posts 4.8seconds...lol. They do things weird. They mislead with their ''unladen weights.'' Overstate 0-60mph times, and ...having a brain fart here..haha. I know there is a third. I'l be back after my nap.

BForbes · 12-27-2007, 01:43 PM

I know I know, UNDER-RATE their engines....whew! Thought I was loosing it for a second.

ChrisK · 12-27-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ~

That M3 came equipped with the optional flux capacitor!

Twin Flux Capacitors :thumbup:

ChrisK · 12-27-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by larryn

Okay, BMW claims 4.8 sec to 60mph with the new M3.... Hmmm. Wonder what our little 135i is capable off, since BMW claims it's a 5.1 sec car. I'm assuming 4.6 - 4.7???

Wouldn't that be insane? :wub:

Khobin~ · 12-27-2007, 03:05 PM

One day I WILL own an M3...and on that day, I'd better have some spare cash left over the speeding ticket...

BMWeber · 12-27-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by turbomg

Man, I dunno. If I was in the M3 market (and I guess I could be if I had the patience, but I don't), I'd be hesitant to do too much to this marvelous V8. Maybe I have too much respect for the M engineers, or maybe I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid, but find a dyno of the new engine and try to tell me that it is not completely fucking amazing.

A torque "curve" that curves about as much as a table-top has to be some kind of crazy German voodoo magic. I think I'd be fairly content to leave it be.

.

I love crazy german voodoo :headbang:

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