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      01-04-2024, 10:46 AM   #1
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LCI Horsepower Gain Available For Non-LCI?

Thought I would ask all you experts the question.

Is there an paid option/process that BMW will offer to bring the current M4 up to the same HP gain? I understand from some of the threads that it will be a higher RPM and maybe different map? Excuse my newbiness with the question
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Most likely not as this has never really been something BMW has offered in the first place. From an aftermarket perspective I’m sure one of the tuning platforms will offer a map of the LCI cars after some time. Similar to the CS and GTS offerings of the F80 platform.
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One word answer - No
Two word answer - Definitely no
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Thanks for the confirmation guys. All the info I need.
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Keep in mind this could potentially just be BMW raising (on paper) the hp up to match what the cars are actually making. I believe the 2025 G87 M2 is getting a hp bump up to 473 which matches the base non comp G8X, but a lot of people are saying it basically makes that kinda power (or more) already and is more a marketing tool to make people think big changes were made.

And that stuff works too. I distinctly remember feeling like i won out when i bought my 2021 A91 Supra with 389 hp vs the 335 that the 1st generation came out with.
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Keep in mind this could potentially just be BMW raising (on paper) the hp up to match what the cars are actually making. I believe the 2025 G87 M2 is getting a hp bump up to 473 which matches the base non comp G8X, but a lot of people are saying it basically makes that kinda power (or more) already and is more a marketing tool to make people think big changes were made.

And that stuff works too. I distinctly remember feeling like i won out when i bought my 2021 A91 Supra with 389 hp vs the 335 that the 1st generation came out with.
Don‘t think so. Bloggers are waiting for the chance already to drag/track both cars and to compare them on the dyno. And BMW should know that. Wait and see what the outcome will be.
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Highly recommend everyone read the below
https://www.gminsidenews.com/threads...sepower.90543/

A lot of misinformation goes around with people claiming the cars are underrated. They are not underrated.
If BMW says they are increasing the horsepower, they are increasing the horsepower.
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Highly recommend everyone read the below
https://www.gminsidenews.com/threads...sepower.90543/
That first post is very weird, some okay information some very bad. Long story short-ish: if a company uses the SAE standard the engine isn’t necessarily underrated, but there is some discretion/conservatism which can be baked into the testing process still. For example, a mfg could intentionally use lower octane or less dense environmental conditions or a more restrictive intake setup to simulate how the engine performs in less than ideal circumstances to ensure it makes “full power” even on a bad day.

If a company doesn’t use the SAE standard, they still have to use a fully kitted engine (accessory drive, production exhaust, intake, etc) to measure “net power.” Pre 1970something, most US engines measured Gross power which was basically the engine without any intake/exhaust restrictions and a standalone cooling/ignition setup. So power was vastly overstated compared to what was realized in the car.

So most likely the LCI will be a real hp increase, likely 2psi bump is my guess. Just enough to knock 0.1 off the qtr mile so it can be advertised as faster
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