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      11-28-2024, 04:16 AM   #1
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It's a pity that the IX1 is a xdrive car with FWD as its main performance

After updating to ilevel 24-11. I can see how xdrive works through vehicle dynamics. Unfortunately, IX1 still maintains the characteristics of front wheel drive driving. After a brief start-up phase, the rear wheels stopped torque output, and all torque came from the front axle. This is consistent with my experience driving this car. When making quick turns or quickly changing lanes, the directional performance of the vehicle will decrease.Since the power properties of the front and rear axle motors are completely consistent, why not make IX1 a vehicle with main rear axle drive? If the main driving feature of IX1 is rear wheel motor drive, what a wonderful thing it would be! I really want the vehicle to have the characteristics of rear wheel drive, because front wheel drive greatly limits the performance of the vehicle. What a pity!
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      11-28-2024, 10:49 AM   #2
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Buy a 2012 version. Aside from rwd handling the new one is astronomically better in every category.
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      12-07-2024, 06:11 AM   #3
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I agree, with electric motors it can’t be more than some software. Iv driven the ix1 20 and 30. And both torque steer like a front driver. Shame there is no way to enable settings to give the 30 the option to set bias to front or rear. Oh well, next model perhaps. 😉
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      12-07-2024, 06:21 AM   #4
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I think there’s a bigger motor up-front, isn’t there?
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      12-22-2024, 02:36 AM   #5
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I think there’s a bigger motor up-front, isn’t there?
The motors of IX1,both front and rare are the same in hps and torques.It is controled by the CCU units.It is totaly a sofeware control behavior.
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      01-06-2025, 04:30 PM   #6
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After updating to ilevel 24-11. I can see how xdrive works through vehicle dynamics. Unfortunately, IX1 still maintains the characteristics of front wheel drive driving. After a brief start-up phase, the rear wheels stopped torque output, and all torque came from the front axle. This is consistent with my experience driving this car. When making quick turns or quickly changing lanes, the directional performance of the vehicle will decrease.Since the power properties of the front and rear axle motors are completely consistent, why not make IX1 a vehicle with main rear axle drive? If the main driving feature of IX1 is rear wheel motor drive, what a wonderful thing it would be! I really want the vehicle to have the characteristics of rear wheel drive, because front wheel drive greatly limits the performance of the vehicle. What a pity!
Completely agree with you. What is your experience as an AWD vehicle in rainy/snowy/muddy conditions? Mine has been relatively good but would love to have a little bit more ground clearance.
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      01-06-2025, 08:17 PM   #7
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Honestly, I never got to the point where I could feel there's a noticeable difference of whether it's FWD biased or not on a family car like iX1. I usually keep accelerator well under 25% on my iX1, and probably never even hit >50% since new. All the turns are just aimed at keeping car stable and smooth for comfort. For this purpose, I don't see why there is an issue with FWD bias. Frankly I don't think FWD vs RWD really makes a diff till one is really pushing balls to the walls on streets, which probably isn't a great idea on this kinda car anyway.

My guess is BMW programmed the front-wheel bias for safety. To begin with, it seems like most people can't handle EVs' instant torque behavior and power very well judging from how people have been crashing a lot of those higher-powered EVs. Dialing back the rear-wheel bias seems like a logical solution from that perspective.

I've tried driving it in pretty nasty rain, and this system seems to handle that well.

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      01-06-2025, 09:04 PM   #8
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The X2 that I have on order is my 3rd FWD-based AWD car as my primary vehicle. Subaru, while not a luxury car brand, has built its reputation on it for decades. I’ve driven them for many THOUSANDS of miles in rain, snow, and ice since 2011.

I am so incredibly frustrated by the whole attitude that FWD is basically garbage. If you don’t want a car with FWD bias, don’t buy it. There are other choices! Do you think BMW is going to change one car in the U10/U11 family from FWD to RWD? No.

A FWD car is obviously going to be complete garbage if you’re obsessed with power sliding, but under MOST common (aka not track or for towing) driving conditions, there’s nothing wrong with them. The technology, like RWD, has been around since the late 1800s. They just are just different and need to be driven accordingly.

I’ve driven RWD cars extensively going back to 1989 when I first started driving. I’ve driven Porsches and BMWs along with RWD Fords. The other car I currently own is a RWD-biased BMW with xDrive, so it’s not like I don’t have a grasp on what driving a modern RWD car is about.

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      01-07-2025, 05:01 AM   #9
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The X2 that I have on order is my 3rd FWD-based AWD car as my primary vehicle. Subaru, while not a luxury car brand, has built its reputation on it for decades. I’ve driven them for many THOUSANDS of miles in rain, snow, and ice since 2011.

I am so incredibly frustrated by the whole attitude that FWD is basically garbage. If you don’t want a car with FWD bias, don’t buy it. There are other choices! Do you think BMW is going to change one car in the U10/U11 family from FWD to RWD? No.

A FWD car is obviously going to be complete garbage if you’re obsessed with power sliding, but under MOST common (aka not track or for towing) driving conditions, there’s nothing wrong with them. The technology, like RWD, has been around since the late 1800s. They just are just different and need to be driven accordingly.

I’ve driven RWD cars extensively going back to 1989 when I first started driving. I’ve driven Porsches and BMWs along with RWD Fords. The other car I currently own is a RWD-biased BMW with xDrive, so it’s not like I don’t have a grasp on what driving a modern RWD car is about.
Amen!
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