[bmrm396]

So my question is this: i have this 335 which i cry about every minute im not able to drive it - love the car to death and this engine has potential to the max.

Im on a 3yr lease but still toying with the idea of buying the car out at lease-end.

So if i took the sucker to Dinan and had them package the whole thing up for 10k or whatever package i decide on - does this decrease the value like normal random mods do? Or does this hold more and make it a bit more "special" because its a Dinan? (Particularly if i bought the car out)

Im a big proponent of "if your gonna do somethin, do it right" - thats y i want the Dinan. But if its only a waste of money in the end, then f*ck it, ill turn it in stock at lease-end and just get another 335.

Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?

gracias

EDIT: just thought of this --- ORRRRR is it better to package it with BMW Performance (rip-off) products???

[samps]

I think that Dinan in general adds a bit more value to the vehicle, only because it is covered by warranty. However, this would only apply if there was warranty left when you sold it or bought it out.

I think a good general rule of thumb is to assume you cannot recoup any money invested in mods (any). I have no idea how Dinan stuff would come into play on a lease though.

[akack79]

Won't be worth as much as you think it should be worth.

[Mr. 5]

I would say oposite.
Usually a car sold a second time has the extended warranty and a car with a dinan tune will not be eligible of the extended warranty.

[dmurray14]

Personally, and this is just my opinion -- I think it's a waste to put money into a lease. Unless you're prepared to take all the parts off at the end and sell them, or you're completely positive you're going to buy it out, I think you're going to lose that money unfortunately.

[bmrm396]

OK - if i DID do the Dinan than i WOULD buy the car out, thats the idea --- so im asking if that gives it any "street cred" so to speak, on the used car market???

or is it just more crap no one wants?

If someone tried to sell you a Dinan 335 over a stock one - youd consider it wouldnt you???

[luca335i]

No I wouldn't. I'd rather buy a stock 335 and modify it. Dinan is only worth it on a new car cuz it matches Bmw warranty. So if I buy a Dinan 335 with 40 k I only have 40 k of warranty left cuz it won't be a CPO car. Plus Dinan is slow. LOL. Joking

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

Curious as to why you label BMW as a rip-off, but not DINAN?

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by AutoCouture

Curious as to why you label BMW as a rip-off, but not DINAN?

oh they are both rips off (not flaming anyone here) - but BMW Perf takes the cake if were comparing the two

[CV335]

IMO non-BMW performance enhancements will not increase the value of the car and will make it harder to sell the car. Any car buyer with a sane mind will said to himself/herself: "This car is tuned...that's means the owner abuse it like there is no tomorrow...I'll pass". I for one wouldn't buy any modded car unless it comes from the factory like that.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

OK - if i DID do the Dinan than i WOULD buy the car out, thats the idea --- so im asking if that gives it any "street cred" so to speak, on the used car market???

or is it just more crap no one wants?

If someone tried to sell you a Dinan 335 over a stock one - youd consider it wouldnt you???

A fully packaged DINAN 335 IMO will have more value, because it would to me. I have DINAN stage 2 flash and paid for the warranty and their R&D. DINAN has a good rep and makes great products and there is also value if you have not gone over the 50K mile mark and can provide that warranty when you go to sell. I think Dinan's motto is "performance without sacrifice". There are people who will pay for what DINAN is implying are safe performance upgrades that have undergone countless hours of R&D; and that alone is worth more to some buyer out there.

That being said, DINAN 335's are not the fastest 335's on the road. The piggy's will destroy a DINAN car, believe me I know because I have DINAN and have experienced the performance difference with a piggy (JuiceBox). So I don't know about a DINAN car having "street credibility".

Also consider that there will also be turbo upgrade kits on the market within the next 1-2 years. Save your $10K and do a future Horsepower Freaks turbo upgrade kit which will be under development later this year.. that's my 2 cents..

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

since BMW and DINAN no longer work together DINAN mods have no value at all *(trade-in value)

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by AutoCouture

since BMW and DINAN no longer work together DINAN mods have no value at all *(trade-in value)

THATS the answer i was lookin for - i knew i heard that somewhere and was afraid of it . . . shit i just want a sweet M3 beater, is that soo much to ask

y god, yyyyyyyyy???

[dlbrooks18]

A Dinan car is NOT an M3 beater.. lost every performance test against it. However Dinan will get you pretty darn close to the power/performance of the stock E9X M3 for a lot less..

[mmm def]

I wouldn't pay much more for a Dinan modded 335..in fact I wouldn't buy one. I'd get a stocker and do it myself. Don't waste your coin if you're getting rid of it.

[roadkillrob]

If the Dealer has a used signature package car they usually try to get a bit more for it, but it isn't much and will usually cave if you don't care and are willing to walk away. When your trading the car in, they work you over and say it is worth less since it is modified, has no warranty and is hard to sell etc etc.

If you can find someone private looking for the car and wanting the mods then it can be worth more, but expect to get nothing extra and hope not to lose money when you sell it!

[M4TW]

You'd do better at trade-in if it is a dealership that promotes Dinan products and are knowledgeable about them. The dealership where I got my Dinan work done had brochures in the waiting area and a decked-out new Dinan 335 in the showroom. I think you'd gain respect from a potential purchaser by pointing to the fact that you installed quality, warranty-backed, tested products in your car and can point to things like the video comparing the M3 to the Dinan 335. I think it equates with someone who cares about his car and wants performance without sacrifice as the credo says. I think it is the way to go if you are planning to own your car. If you are just going to turn it back at the end of the lease, you might as well go piggyback etc, beat on your mule, part out your add-ons at the end of the lease and return the car stock.

[louie_perm]

Originally Posted by AutoCouture

since BMW and DINAN no longer work together DINAN mods have no value at all *(trade-in value)

On what information is this based? AFAIK, Dinan and BMW never "worked together." Dinan simply matches the BMW warranty and has affiliations with some BMW dealers. Perhaps you know of a dealer who has dropped Dinan. Mine hasn't, and according to them, their relationship with Dinan is the same as it ever was.

[Sniz]

just look back at past BMW models, [erfect example the e39 M5 that I absolutely love. My favorite sedan ever.

the full Dinan S2 package costs roughly 30k dollar without labor.....thats right, 30k plus roughly 7-10k in labor. An absolute joke.

someone correct me if I missed anything please. This package give you:

intake
chip reflash
exhaust
headers
rear gears
spring/shocks



thats it, and nets you a whopping 70hp or so for 40k



Now take a 2002 M5 that has the Dinan S2 package and resell it today.

You can pick up a cherry 35k M5 right now for around 20-25k which is a steal IMO. Add in the same car w/ the Dinan S2 and you will be lucky to pass 30k w/ the same miles (low miles, cherry car). What that means is that the market for aftermarket tuned cars is limited and even with an unbeliavably overpriced package like the Dinan S2 the cars are still not that much more desirable.


beware your aftermarket spending......I spent roughly 6-7k in aftermarket parts on my car at the end of my ownership. My car got totaled, and even by underpricing my parts to move them fast, I got back roughly 4k. Try that with Dinan parts and you will be one unhappy camper.

my 2 cents.

ps- I LOVE Dinan S2 M5's, but you would never pry 40k out of my hands for the package......EVER. The ego of S. Dinan for even charging that price is unreal....