BT Scan:2D5A Control motor torque limitation?

E92White · 03-21-2009, 12:32 PM

Hey guys..had a weird code pop up..I turned my car on and as soon as it turned on,I had a limp/Engine Malfun. Here's where it starts to get weird..the car started sputtering kinda crazy..rpms jumping up and down,as if it had a rough idle cam like a muscle car..as I threw it into reverse I had to really hold the brake down tight as it felt like it was gonna launch in reverse ! anyway I've never had that happen to me..does anyone have any idea what the hell this could be ?

lauer87 · 03-21-2009, 01:44 PM

What tune are you running?

E92White · 03-21-2009, 01:58 PM

no tune as of right now..was running JB3 but took it off to install and let a friend try it out on his e90..I got the BT Tool recently to scan for codes,etc. and the only codes I've gotten has been some accelerator pedal module code..but this one is new..very weird..ofcourse my car does have 32k on it..so they may have something to do with it too..

dmurray14 · 03-21-2009, 02:45 PM

Thats bizarre. If you scan and theres no manipulation code, I'd take it to the dealer and have them do a run-through...

E92White · 03-21-2009, 03:15 PM

no manipulation codes here..i'm msd80 pre 29.2..My SA seems to think its a software issue..hopefully they wont upgrade me to the latest progman..

hotrod182 · 03-22-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by E92White

no manipulation codes here..i'm msd80 pre 29.2..My SA seems to think its a software issue..hopefully they wont upgrade me to the latest progman..

If they think its a software issue, they will upgrade it to the newest progman.

newbieman78 · 03-22-2009, 03:48 PM

that happened to me once when i was installing the sprint booster on my accelerator pedal.
The problem was that i didnt have the wires pushed in all the way into their connectors and the gas pedal wasnt making a complete connection with the ECU. my car started shaking violently while at idle and still parked. if you are getting an accelerator pedal code malfunction, i would double check the gas pedal wires to make sure they are properly connected. could have become loose and disconnected temporarily.

E92White · 03-22-2009, 04:20 PM

thanks newbie..I'm starting to think they are somehow related..

E92White · 03-22-2009, 04:22 PM

check this out..now where's socaltech so he can chime in on this..

rismo · 03-22-2009, 05:01 PM

I have had the same after I not completly correct installed my procede.
It also gave a drivetrain error code.
After fixing the cables and a BT reset, things were fine again.

Maybe this helps you a bit.

Tobias1980 · 03-22-2009, 06:23 PM

I had the same thing happening with my car after installing a bad flash tune.

It was a very scary experience due to the engine revs that was jumping 1000 rpms up and down and I had problem to get into neutral on my AT beacuse of the engine was not idling... I was considering disconnecting my battery just to stop the engine!

E92White · 03-22-2009, 06:30 PM

wow..but u know what doesnt make sense is how this happened with the tune basically being off..

rismo · 03-23-2009, 11:05 AM

Cables correct connected?

Power cables all correct?

E92White · 03-26-2009, 06:59 PM

yep..quick update guys..my SA didnt find any issue,but thinks its a software issue..so they want to install the latest progman but I told them I read a bulletin that the newest software causes lag,and they were like ''well all we can do is clear the faults then'' ''the software upgrade is the best way to take care of the problem..'' what do you all think ?

Crisp · 03-26-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by E92White

yep..quick update guys..my SA didnt find any issue,but thinks its a software issue..so they want to install the latest progman but I told them I read a bulletin that the newest software causes lag,and they were like ''well all we can do is clear the faults then'' ''the software upgrade is the best way to take care of the problem..'' what do you all think ?

Have you tried out a car with the updated software?

I don't notice any lag in my 2009...

Can you live with lag that is almost invisible or can you live with this problem?

You choice.
I would update.

E92White · 03-26-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisp

Have you tried out a car with the updated software?

I don't notice any lag in my 2009...

Can you live with lag that is almost invisible or can you live with this problem?

You choice.
I would update.

well from my understanding,the newer ecu's with the updated software dont really have lag issues..its the guys that have the old MSD80 ecu AKA pre 29.2 guys that get updated to the new software that experience the lag.

Crisp · 03-26-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E92White

well from my understanding,the newer ecu's with the updated software dont really have lag issues..its the guys that have the old MSD80 ecu AKA pre 29.2 guys that get updated to the new software that experience the lag.

Hm, I want to test one out and see how the lag feels then.

But like I said, your car is sputtering and BMW's fix is an update.
So you have to decide if you want to live with this problem, or live with lag.
This is their "fix" to the problem which is why they came out with the update...too bad it has its negatives also.

AndyW · 05-02-2018, 06:10 PM

Yes, I am necroing this thread, but I am getting this code (sans the strange idle behavior, just some hesitation in the 3-4k RPM range. What resolved it?

Rogue-OP · 09-06-2019, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyW

Yes, I am necroing this thread, but I am getting this code (sans the strange idle behavior, just some hesitation in the 3-4k RPM range. What resolved it?

Mine is the exact same problem, what worked for you?

AndyW · 09-06-2019, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue-OP

Mine is the exact same problem, what worked for you?

It just stopped. Wish I had more.

03-21-2009, 12:32 PM	#1
E92White N54 Power Baby 29 Rep 680 Posts Drives: E82 135i SGM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brownsville,TX iTrader: (3)	BT Scan:2D5A Control motor torque limitation? Hey guys..had a weird code pop up..I turned my car on and as soon as it turned on,I had a limp/Engine Malfun. Here's where it starts to get weird..the car started sputtering kinda crazy..rpms jumping up and down,as if it had a rough idle cam like a muscle car..as I threw it into reverse I had to really hold the brake down tight as it felt like it was gonna launch in reverse ! anyway I've never had that happen to me..does anyone have any idea what the hell this could be ?
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lauer87 Lieutenant 8 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	What tune are you running?
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E92White N54 Power Baby 29 Rep 680 Posts Drives: E82 135i SGM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brownsville,TX iTrader: (3)	no tune as of right now..was running JB3 but took it off to install and let a friend try it out on his e90..I got the BT Tool recently to scan for codes,etc. and the only codes I've gotten has been some accelerator pedal module code..but this one is new..very weird..ofcourse my car does have 32k on it..so they may have something to do with it too..
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dmurray14 The Stig 31 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: Quickly Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: US iTrader: (1)	Thats bizarre. If you scan and theres no manipulation code, I'd take it to the dealer and have them do a run-through... __________________
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E92White N54 Power Baby 29 Rep 680 Posts Drives: E82 135i SGM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brownsville,TX iTrader: (3)	no manipulation codes here..i'm msd80 pre 29.2..My SA seems to think its a software issue..hopefully they wont upgrade me to the latest progman..
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03-22-2009, 03:48 PM	#7
newbieman78 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 274 Posts Drives: bmw 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	that happened to me once when i was installing the sprint booster on my accelerator pedal. The problem was that i didnt have the wires pushed in all the way into their connectors and the gas pedal wasnt making a complete connection with the ECU. my car started shaking violently while at idle and still parked. if you are getting an accelerator pedal code malfunction, i would double check the gas pedal wires to make sure they are properly connected. could have become loose and disconnected temporarily.
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03-22-2009, 04:20 PM	#8
E92White N54 Power Baby 29 Rep 680 Posts Drives: E82 135i SGM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brownsville,TX iTrader: (3)	thanks newbie..I'm starting to think they are somehow related..
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rismo Captain 77 Rep 911 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	I have had the same after I not completly correct installed my procede. It also gave a drivetrain error code. After fixing the cables and a BT reset, things were fine again. Maybe this helps you a bit. __________________ BMW 335 E92 09 - Full options - DKG - MHD by Buraq - RB Next Gen - RB Inlets/Outlet - Forge Diverter Valves - AR Catless DP - Afe Intake - Helix IC - FuelIT Stage 2 LPFP - Ar Oil Cooler - PPK Water Cooler - M3 Suspension - JRZ RS1 Shocks - Eibach Pro Springs - Drexler LSD - BMW IS Exhaust - Carbon Endurance Brake Pads - Stainless Steel Brake Lines - M101 Wheels - Michelin PS2 - M-Tech Body - M-Strutbar BMW M550i G30 2019 - BM3
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E92White N54 Power Baby 29 Rep 680 Posts Drives: E82 135i SGM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brownsville,TX iTrader: (3)	wow..but u know what doesnt make sense is how this happened with the tune basically being off..
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E92White N54 Power Baby 29 Rep 680 Posts Drives: E82 135i SGM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brownsville,TX iTrader: (3)	yep..quick update guys..my SA didnt find any issue,but thinks its a software issue..so they want to install the latest progman but I told them I read a bulletin that the newest software causes lag,and they were like ''well all we can do is clear the faults then'' ''the software upgrade is the best way to take care of the problem..'' what do you all think ?
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