Brainstorming Session

kjrulz · 03-26-2009, 10:26 AM

Gentlemen,

I have recently installed my rear fogs. They are no where near as bright as I would have liked, however, I am very happy with the upgrade nonetheless.

How can we upgrade the bulbs to be much brighter (for several purposes, including flashing tailgaters, reversing with tints easily, dense fog)?

Please post ideas.

I will be working on some things this weekend including high powered LED's.

By the way, I am an electrical engineer.

Kind Regards,
KJ

canucklion · 03-26-2009, 10:30 AM

they're plenty bright already.

go with LEDs + resistor if you like.

kjrulz · 03-26-2009, 10:44 AM

That's what I will do most likely.

They are most definitely not "plenty bright" in my opinion.

canucklion · 03-26-2009, 10:45 AM

then you probably have glaucoma

STE92VE · 03-26-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kjrulz

How can we upgrade the bulbs to be much brighter (for several purposes, including flashing tailgaters, reversing with tints easily, dense fog)?

By the way, I am an electrical engineer.

We figure you should be able to tell us.....

HermesRider · 03-26-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kjrulz

That's what I will do most likely.

They are most definitely not "plenty bright" in my opinion.

I'm assuming you noticed this being an engineer, but I'll point out for others: I have noticed it depends on viewing angle because of the lens. Therefore if you are standing behind vehicle, they don't appear "plenty bright", but if you kneel down at the level of another driver, they certainly are bright to me.

audioMeth · 03-26-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kjrulz

That's what I will do most likely.

They are most definitely not "plenty bright" in my opinion.

blinding the people behind you isn't always going to be the best course of action
especially for tailgaters. last thing i would want is an unsafe driver behind me
that has been temporarily blinded by my obscenely bright rear fogs. you could
always just be the bigger person and move over for faster moving traffic.

ragingclue · 03-26-2009, 10:56 AM

+1 on the lens directing the light where it's intended to go. If you need it brighter, you're already an electrical engineer. I don't know why you'd as the forum full of artards.

May I ask why you want it brighter?

STE92VE · 03-26-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kjrulz

They are most definitely not "plenty bright" in my opinion.

Please stop referring to the members of this forum in that way....

ragingclue · 03-26-2009, 11:06 AM

Where is the brainstorming? Is this what brainstorming has come to? Telling an electrical engineer what he can do to make his light bulb brighter?

methodtim · 03-26-2009, 11:17 AM

No one wants a driver with ultra-bright rear fogs on the road. You're a nuisance and a hazard.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-26-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

then you probably have glaucoma

CubanJJ09 · 03-26-2009, 11:40 AM

turn them on, then stand back about 20 ft and squat down a lil bit. if you think theyre not bright enough make an oppointment with and optometrist

ragingclue · 03-26-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

turn them on, then stand back about 20 ft and squat down a lil bit. if you think theyre not bright enough make an oppointment with and optometrist

This is very true. The existing fog is plenty bright.

kjrulz · 03-26-2009, 04:19 PM

adorable comments...i'm going to be working on it this weekend. i already gave reasons for why: it's hard to see when i reverse with tints (i'm sure i'm not the only one), tailgaters (i said nothing about the highway, i never chill on the passing lane), and dense fog (im in a high elevation).

i've seen them from a distance and yet again, they're bright, but i think they should be brighter. temporary usage so shorter lifetime shouldn't be a main concern.

funny thing is, if i worded the qs differently or if someone like long asked it, it'd be a diff story.

thanks for the help anywhoooooooooo

CubanJJ09 · 03-26-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kjrulz

adorable comments...i'm going to be working on it this weekend. i already gave reasons for why: it's hard to see when i reverse with tints (i'm sure i'm not the only one), tailgaters (i said nothing about the highway, i never chill on the passing lane), and dense fog (im in a high elevation).

i've seen them from a distance and yet again, they're bright, but i think they should be brighter. temporary usage so shorter lifetime shouldn't be a main concern.

funny thing is, if i worded the qs differently or if someone like long asked it, it'd be a diff story.

thanks for the help anywhoooooooooo

as in the modfather? he wouldnt ask. if anything hed find a way to put two red searchlights back there. prob make it look good too

methodtim · 03-26-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

as in the modfather? he wouldnt ask. if anything hed find a way to put two red searchlights back there. prob make it look good too

Heh, I was thinking it, thank you for saying it.

ragingclue · 03-26-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

as in the modfather? he wouldnt ask. if anything hed find a way to put two red searchlights back there. prob make it look good too

He'd probably find a way to stuff a rotating airport beacon in there.

CubanJJ09 · 03-26-2009, 04:51 PM

i wish i could eat his brain to obtain his knowledge

Boost Gomez · 03-26-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

i wish i could eat his brain to obtain his knowledge

That's not creepy at all.

CubanJJ09 · 03-26-2009, 06:05 PM

im not crazy, i swear

halB · 03-26-2009, 10:17 PM

LED actually makes it less bright because the combination of the relfector housing and lens is designed to work with a light bulb that emits light more or less evenly in all directions, and reflects/focuses it towards the rear of the car. An LED or LED assembly does not emit light in the same pattern as a light bulb and therefore is far less effective when installed such housing. If you want maximum effect with LED you need a housing that is designed for the light pattern of that particular LED or LED assembly.

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