Got the tuner manipulation code with JB 1.22

hiimwayne · 05-09-2009, 12:32 AM

So I brought in my car today to get my annual oil change. While it was there a relative of mine who's a tech there decided to scan my car with the GT1 and clear all codes. The 2DFD code was there. Good thing he was a family member and cleared the codes for me. Looks like JB 1.22 isn't that diagnostically invisible.

BuLoOoSki · 05-09-2009, 12:39 AM

good that you got your codes cleared, but if you look at the BMS disclaimer it clearly states which maps you should use for your mods and octane level in order not to induce a tuner detection code. So if you can explain more on what your mods are, what octane level do you run and the maps you've run it will start making sense.

I havent seen any person throw a tuner detection code if gone by the recommended maps selection. So if your running 91 Octane on Map 6 with just an intake im going to say that you induced the code and its no ones fault.

I've been using the JB3 since it was being beta tested last year before the release and beta tested every map and not thrown a single code with it!

RambleJ · 05-09-2009, 12:48 AM

Also I don't think that is a Tuner code.. I know of these 2 but have not heard of 2DFD..

2D18:
2D18 manipulation cover, maximum air mass
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption
EXPLANATION: Tuner detection code

2D25C:
2D25 Mass Air Flow Excessive - External Tuning Box Detected
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption
EXPLANATION: Tuner detection code

Maybe someone can chime in on what 2DFD code is?

BuLoOoSki · 05-09-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RambleJ

Also I don't think that is a Tuner code.. I know of these 2 but have not heard of 2DFD..

2D18:
2D18 manipulation cover, maximum air mass
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption
EXPLANATION: Tuner detection code
FIX: Delete before service!

2D25C:
2D25 Mass Air Flow Excessive - External Tuning Box Detected
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption
EXPLANATION: Tuner detection code
FIX: Delete before service!

Maybe someone can chime in on what 2DFD code is?

nice catch, i actually didnt read the code properly, i kinda skimmed over it. but you're right, ive never heard of it and the codes you've posted above are what usually are the detection codes!

BuLoOoSki · 05-09-2009, 12:54 AM

just searched for it in the Bavarian Technic Wiki section and couldnt find anything about 2dfd

RambleJ · 05-09-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuLoOoSki

just searched for it in the Bavarian Technic Wiki section and couldnt find anything about 2dfd

I can't locate anything on 2DFD either...

BuLoOoSki · 05-09-2009, 01:16 AM

the code could have been something else probably even not anything to relate with engine/turbos/power. i had 2 codes on my car that I had no idea what they meant, but then found out that one of them meant non functioning seat belt arm (the seat belt arm extender once broke and was replaced but im assuming BMW never cleared the code) and the other was for a burnt rear brake lamp. cant remember the codes though

so i think that your "family member" cleared a code that was probably trying to say that there is something wrong with your car and it wasn't the tuner detection code. too bad its cleared now!

Italia335i · 05-09-2009, 07:38 AM

troll?

thegeneral101 · 05-09-2009, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiimwayne

So I brought in my car today to get my annual oil change. While it was there a relative of mine who's a tech there decided to scan my car with the GT1 and clear all codes. The 2DFD code was there. Good thing he was a family member and cleared the codes for me. Looks like JB 1.22 isn't that diagnostically invisible.

you shouldn't be so quick to conclusions about invisibility. it is your fault that the code was triggered as you were probably running a higher map (like map 6). BMS clearly states (like others have already said in this thread) that some maps trigger codes.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-09-2009, 08:48 AM

The higher the map, the most likely you are to throw a detection code. But with 1.3 BMS improved the invisibility greatly. It is just a never-ending cat and mouse game.

Mike

Terrance28 · 05-09-2009, 08:23 PM

I was thinking the same thing when I was reading his post. The tuning code is 2d25, what is 2dfd?

Septro · 05-09-2009, 08:36 PM

You need to change the title of your thread.. It should've been:

"I just got a 2DFD, what F@#$ is it?" instead of "Got the tuner manipulation code with JB 1.22"

Either you are a troll yourself or someone else will troll your subject line and just yap about how the JB3 throws code. I think you are the former..

05-09-2009, 12:32 AM	#1
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05-09-2009, 12:39 AM	#2
BuLoOoSki Colonel 749 Rep 2,108 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kuwait iTrader: (9)	good that you got your codes cleared, but if you look at the BMS disclaimer it clearly states which maps you should use for your mods and octane level in order not to induce a tuner detection code. So if you can explain more on what your mods are, what octane level do you run and the maps you've run it will start making sense. I havent seen any person throw a tuner detection code if gone by the recommended maps selection. So if your running 91 Octane on Map 6 with just an intake im going to say that you induced the code and its no ones fault. I've been using the JB3 since it was being beta tested last year before the release and beta tested every map and not thrown a single code with it! __________________ 2015 BMW F80 M3: Tractive EDC Suspension / Dinan Anti-Roll Bars / GC Camber Plates / KMP Dual Diff Mount / Girodisc Rotors / GT4 Brake Cooling Kit / PTF Flash Tune / Eisenmann Downpipes / CSF Heat Exchanger / BMS Charge Pipes 2007 BMW E92 335i (SOLD): BMS JB4 / Quaife LSD / Riss Racing DPs / Helix Intercooler / BMS Intake / STETT Charge Pipe / Forge DVs
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05-09-2009, 12:48 AM	#3
RambleJ Colonel 60 Rep 2,014 Posts Drives: F10 535i M-sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Back in teh so cal iTrader: (2)	Also I don't think that is a Tuner code.. I know of these 2 but have not heard of 2DFD.. 2D18: 2D18 manipulation cover, maximum air mass Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed Short circuit or signal interruption EXPLANATION: Tuner detection code 2D25C: 2D25 Mass Air Flow Excessive - External Tuning Box Detected Error will not cause a warning light Error is currently present Test conditions have been completed Short circuit or signal interruption EXPLANATION: Tuner detection code Maybe someone can chime in on what 2DFD code is?
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05-09-2009, 12:54 AM	#5
BuLoOoSki Colonel 749 Rep 2,108 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kuwait iTrader: (9)	just searched for it in the Bavarian Technic Wiki section and couldnt find anything about 2dfd __________________ 2015 BMW F80 M3: Tractive EDC Suspension / Dinan Anti-Roll Bars / GC Camber Plates / KMP Dual Diff Mount / Girodisc Rotors / GT4 Brake Cooling Kit / PTF Flash Tune / Eisenmann Downpipes / CSF Heat Exchanger / BMS Charge Pipes 2007 BMW E92 335i (SOLD): BMS JB4 / Quaife LSD / Riss Racing DPs / Helix Intercooler / BMS Intake / STETT Charge Pipe / Forge DVs
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05-09-2009, 01:16 AM	#7
BuLoOoSki Colonel 749 Rep 2,108 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kuwait iTrader: (9)	the code could have been something else probably even not anything to relate with engine/turbos/power. i had 2 codes on my car that I had no idea what they meant, but then found out that one of them meant non functioning seat belt arm (the seat belt arm extender once broke and was replaced but im assuming BMW never cleared the code) and the other was for a burnt rear brake lamp. cant remember the codes though so i think that your "family member" cleared a code that was probably trying to say that there is something wrong with your car and it wasn't the tuner detection code. too bad its cleared now! __________________ 2015 BMW F80 M3: Tractive EDC Suspension / Dinan Anti-Roll Bars / GC Camber Plates / KMP Dual Diff Mount / Girodisc Rotors / GT4 Brake Cooling Kit / PTF Flash Tune / Eisenmann Downpipes / CSF Heat Exchanger / BMS Charge Pipes 2007 BMW E92 335i (SOLD): BMS JB4 / Quaife LSD / Riss Racing DPs / Helix Intercooler / BMS Intake / STETT Charge Pipe / Forge DVs
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05-09-2009, 07:38 AM	#8
Italia335i Banned 2 Rep 88 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	troll?
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4927 Rep 116,037 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	The higher the map, the most likely you are to throw a detection code. But with 1.3 BMS improved the invisibility greatly. It is just a never-ending cat and mouse game. Mike
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Terrance28 Brigadier General 109 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: Crimson Red E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (17)	I was thinking the same thing when I was reading his post. The tuning code is 2d25, what is 2dfd? __________________ Mods list got too long, lets just say more than enough.
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05-09-2009, 08:36 PM	#12
Septro Banned 77 Rep 1,649 Posts Drives: '08 e90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: C-Bus, OH iTrader: (1)	You need to change the title of your thread.. It should've been: "I just got a 2DFD, what F@#$ is it?" instead of "Got the tuner manipulation code with JB 1.22" Either you are a troll yourself or someone else will troll your subject line and just yap about how the JB3 throws code. I think you are the former..
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