What is this? ZSG?

roburado · 08-02-2006, 09:16 PM

Here's a picture of a gearshift lever seen in a facelifted E60. Could this be ZSG? SMG IV?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ft-latest-pics

Story: http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ft-latest-pics

roburado · 08-03-2006, 04:45 AM

Anyone have a clue?

E90Fleet, any ideas?

Kit523 · 08-03-2006, 04:47 AM

I don't think this is the new SMG, in the new X5 has this shift knob too.
it's the new shift knob only!

climkt · 08-03-2006, 04:50 AM

sorry guys, it looks hideous, revolting. the classic auto gear knob is tonnes better looking than this flight simulator joystick gadget.
at least make it looks nicer like the m3 e46 or e60 m5 gear knob, please!

Kit523 · 08-03-2006, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by climkt

sorry guys, it looks hideous, revolting. the classic auto gear knob is tonnes better looking than this flight simulator joystick gadget.

+1 !!! this thing look so bad ass ugly!! LOL!
the classic gear knob LOOK WAYYYYYY BETTTTTERRRRR

climkt · 08-03-2006, 05:04 AM

The bmw e60/ (undercover new e class ) engineers must be really brave and stupid to facelift the classic gearknob for this geeky looking, misfit gadget.' why fix something that ain't broke?'

NFS · 08-03-2006, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kit523

+1 !!! this thing look so bad ass ugly!! LOL!
the classic gear knob LOOK WAYYYYYY BETTTTTERRRRR

The conclusion at e60.net is that this is a trial version of the new SMG and that the gearshifter has been cobbled together from available parts.

The actual shifter in the new car will be styled more appropriately.

chonko · 08-03-2006, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by climkt

The bmw e60/ (undercover new e class ) engineers must be really brave and stupid to facelift the classic gearknob for this geeky looking, misfit gadget.' why fix something that ain't broke?'

Guys, don't be too quick to judge till you try it.
Just like all things that are new and radical- it takes a bit of getting used to. Just because we are so used to doing certains things a particular way doesn't mean that there isn't a better way. For all we know, it could be a better way of changing gears, or controlling operations.

bavarian19 · 08-03-2006, 10:08 AM

NFS · 08-03-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needforspeed

The conclusion at e60.net is that this is a trial version of the new SMG and that the gearshifter has been cobbled together from available parts.

The actual shifter in the new car will be styled more appropriately.

If you look closely you'll see it's the m5 base with a different (but similar) stick. I think we can expect the base to be better matched to the e60's decor and that it will probably be different to the M5' (it will have DS for a start).

I think the stick will also be improved visually so we can all have out wood / metal inserts etc..

Frosty · 08-03-2006, 11:00 AM

..I bet this is jsut a tep fix for testing hte trans... not a final version one would get in their car...

~Frost

Bimmerista · 08-03-2006, 11:23 AM

I read that it is not the SMG but rather a new generation electronicly controlled automatic six speed, to replace the Getrag and the current ZF. It(the new one) will be manufactured by ZF as well. To engage the lever is pushed up and there are no cogs anymore, its a bit like the 7 series currently.

SoYank · 08-03-2006, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty

..I bet this is jsut a tep fix for testing hte trans... not a final version one would get in their car...

~Frost

Huh?

SoYank · 08-03-2006, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by climkt

sorry guys, it looks hideous, revolting. the classic auto gear knob is tonnes better looking than this flight simulator joystick gadget.
at least make it looks nicer like the m3 e46 or e60 m5 gear knob, please!

That looks like a DIY gone terribly wrong.

shragon · 08-03-2006, 11:41 AM

hahaha, yea, it's pretty hideous looking.

txusa03 · 08-03-2006, 12:41 PM

I think I am getting sick now...

Ryan 330i · 08-03-2006, 12:52 PM

its the new shift knob... its cool, just too bulky and needs to be all black. no silver.

E90Fleet · 08-03-2006, 12:58 PM

As said before, its only partly the new stick

The M5 parts currently used will be replaced by proper parts when they are made

You can see here the new X5 has a proper bottom piece

ALPINE6SPD · 08-03-2006, 01:27 PM

thats the knob for the new 5. How many times do I have to tell people this?

ALPINE6SPD · 08-03-2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roburado

Here's a picture of a gearshift lever seen in a facelifted E60. Could this be ZSG? SMG IV?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ft-latest-pics

Story: http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ft-latest-pics

It cant be smg. SMG doe not have park on it.

enwhykiid · 08-03-2006, 01:34 PM

is this going to be available on the '07 e90?

xG35c · 08-03-2006, 03:16 PM

Looks like the one more of BMW's electronic controls that "return to center" like the turn signal stalk, this time for the Steptronic.
Definitely different, not sure it would be an improvement...

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climkt Bimmer Manual all the way 68 Rep 1,811 Posts Drives: e90 320i manual Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: singapore iTrader: (0)	sorry guys, it looks hideous, revolting. the classic auto gear knob is tonnes better looking than this flight simulator joystick gadget. at least make it looks nicer like the m3 e46 or e60 m5 gear knob, please! Attached Images
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climkt Bimmer Manual all the way 68 Rep 1,811 Posts Drives: e90 320i manual Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: singapore iTrader: (0)	The bmw e60/ (undercover new e class ) engineers must be really brave and stupid to facelift the classic gearknob for this geeky looking, misfit gadget.' why fix something that ain't broke?'
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Frosty Colonel 783 Rep 2,639 Posts Drives: M240i - 2021 - 6MT - Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northern NJ iTrader: (0)	..I bet this is jsut a tep fix for testing hte trans... not a final version one would get in their car... ~Frost __________________ M240i Coupe (6MT) (2021: 6/2021 build ) Accord Coupe (6MT) (2017) 335i Coupe (6MT) (2007: 9/06 build SOLD 8/2016) Prelude (5MT) (1995)
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Bimmerista Major General 83 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	I read that it is not the SMG but rather a new generation electronicly controlled automatic six speed, to replace the Getrag and the current ZF. It(the new one) will be manufactured by ZF as well. To engage the lever is pushed up and there are no cogs anymore, its a bit like the 7 series currently.
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Ryan 330i Major 57 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: '09 E93 335i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Francisco \| LA \| Oregon iTrader: (0)	its the new shift knob... its cool, just too bulky and needs to be all black. no silver. __________________ 2009 E93 335i \| Jet \| Black Dakota \| Grey Poplar \| ZPP \| ZSP \| ZCW \| Step \| Paddles \| i-Drive \| CA \| Sirius \| HD \| Logic7 \| 06FL \| 06NF \| PDC \| OEM Alarm \| LUX Retired: 2007 E92 335i Retired: 2006 E90 330i
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E90Fleet Lieutenant General 1312 Rep 10,185 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	As said before, its only partly the new stick The M5 parts currently used will be replaced by proper parts when they are made You can see here the new X5 has a proper bottom piece Attached Images __________________ BMW if you are reading, I need a job, Please.
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xG35c Lieutenant 36 Rep 433 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Looks like the one more of BMW's electronic controls that "return to center" like the turn signal stalk, this time for the Steptronic. Definitely different, not sure it would be an improvement...
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