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      06-29-2009, 02:14 PM   #1
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Don't know which ECU mod to pick up

Thanks for taking the time to read the thread. I've got a few important things I'm looking to have this mod accomplish.

1. Not be overly powerful (yes, I occasionally share the car with my partner when I need a something bigger than a coupe for work purposes).

2. Deliver a noticeable boost to low end preferably idle to around 3500k. (as I spend 95% of my driving in this range)

3. Isn't insanely complex to install. some of the install videos I saw looked doable, but i guess the less bolts i need to remove the better.....or something to that effect.

As background info, I've had the car since dec of 08. Its a 335i AT coupe, Space gray with black leather, pretty much with everything except i-drive system. I've enjoyed her stock for the past 6 months, she's been great, had only a fuel pump failure last month that got fixed in a matter of a day. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, considering I hear a lot of these tunes fry the weak hpfp. Oh and I just checked, the car has the oil cooler visible from the front tire well (in case that makes a difference).

I've paid attention and noticed my habits and tendencies with the 335. Also having a 328i sedan I must say that the 335 just begs to be driven harder. With that being said, I don't WOT and red line her at every opportunity. I commute A LOT with her, and I usually do about 15 miles of surface streets each way, and I've noticed that I really love the throw back effect of the torque, and seek to enhance it a bit. I know there are crazy tunes out there but I'm not looking to track the car or anything in that category. I would simply like something dependable that's going to preserve the balance of the stock car, while maybe adding a bit more exhilaration once those damn red lights turn green.

I also don't have any idea as to what amount of torque will have what effect. do I want 320ish? 350ish? am I going to whiplash myself with 350 range torque? and is there any way to control the range ? to make LOADS of torque from very low rpms?

Thanks for the input.
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thanks for the reply guys, now I noticed both of you suggested the JB+. So does this device remap the torque and power curve, or does it just take factory settings and amplify them? Meaning basically you have more power at the same exact points as factory.

Also I've read accounts of JB+ causing shaking or rough idle type issues? any input on that?

If I get this JB+ would I run it at the default setting or below the default setting. I'm wondering basically what the range is as far as where you dial set the dial and what the output is?

Thanks again!
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Amplifies if I suppose. It tricks the temperature sensor into thinking it's warmer out than it actually is, so it increases the boost a bit
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procede.

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procede.

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Wow! Extremly informative post there.

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used JB+ or SSTT looks to be ur best bet with what you are looking for..
and JB+ > SSTT.
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JB+ is what you're looking for. Here's a nice used one : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274861
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x10 on JB+, it's the perfect tune for you. Let me know if you have any other questions
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Thanks for taking the time to read the thread. I've got a few important things I'm looking to have this mod accomplish.

1. Not be overly powerful (yes, I occasionally share the car with my partner when I need a something bigger than a coupe for work purposes).
One of the reason i chose the procede is the smoothness in the powerband and how well it drives as compared to my previous tune (JB3) which was more on and off power.

2. Deliver a noticeable boost to low end preferably idle to around 3500k. (as I spend 95% of my driving in this range)
You will definitely notice the lower end torque, especially with the user tq adjustments. I also commute daily and don't go WOT on some days at all, however with any tune u will find power increased noticeably

3. Isn't insanely complex to install. some of the install videos I saw looked doable, but i guess the less bolts i need to remove the better.....or something to that effect.
Honestly the install on the JB3 or the Procede is not that hard at all. I've taken my procede out many times and i've gotten it down to about 25 minutes from start to finish. The only time you will need to take it out is for service

As background info, I've had the car since dec of 08. meaning you still have warranty, the procede is the only tune with built in code reading and clearing functions, meaning nothing more to buy other than the procede unit
Its a 335i AT coupe, Space gray with black leather, pretty much with everything except i-drive system. I've enjoyed her stock for the past 6 months, she's been great, had only a fuel pump failure last month that got fixed in a matter of a day. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, considering I hear a lot of these tunes fry the weak hpfp. the hpfp is problematic regardless of tune or non, thats why bmw extended the warranties on them for 10 years, not because people who tune their cars cause them to fail

Oh and I just checked, the car has the oil cooler visible from the front tire well (in case that makes a difference).

I've paid attention and noticed my habits and tendencies with the 335. Also having a 328i sedan I must say that the 335 just begs to be driven harder. With that being said, I don't WOT and red line her at every opportunity. I commute A LOT with her, and I usually do about 15 miles of surface streets each way, and I've noticed that I really love the throw back effect of the torque, and seek to enhance it a bit. i'm in the same boat I drive about 20+ miles each way to work daily and one of the features of the procede i LOVE is the valet mode. Basically each time i start the car, it is in stock form, then with the included wireless remote which i keep in the ashtray if I want to do spirited driving I can turn the procede unit on to one of 2 maps I have selected and can have some WOT fun. Also good for when your partner drives the car and doesn't care for the added power, it'll be reverted back to stock whenever u shut down the car and start backup

I know there are crazy tunes out there but I'm not looking to track the car or anything in that category. I would simply like something dependable that's going to preserve the balance of the stock car, while maybe adding a bit more exhilaration once those damn red lights turn green. i think i've made my point in the previous posts, but IMO the procede is that perfect balance of stock dependability and full throttle fun. Remember this is comming from someone who owned both a Procede and JB3 and chose to keep the procede in the car

I also don't have any idea as to what amount of torque will have what effect. do I want 320ish? 350ish? am I going to whiplash myself with 350 range torque? and is there any way to control the range ? to make LOADS of torque from very low rpms? The procede does allow u to control how much power the car will be made and is very simple and easy to use. the JB+ can dial in user torque as well (far as i know) however i'm more happy with the procede unit for the code clearing functions and continued support from a well known tuner

Thanks for the input.
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How's that for detailed?
Much better, thanks!
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jb+ until u become a tune whore like the rest of us then trade it in and upgrade to a JB3
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SSTT - brain dead simple, nice power gains, and simple to install... Plus they are dirt cheap used right now, I saw no benefit to going with JB+.
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JB+ or SSTT.Those would be the only choices if i were you. Good luck with what ever you do.
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jb+ until u become a tune whore like the rest of us then trade it in and upgrade to a JB3
that'll take about 2 weeks...
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SSTT - brain dead simple, nice power gains, and simple to install... Plus they are dirt cheap used right now, I saw no benefit to going with JB+.
Hows that? I had switched from the SSTT to the JB+ and felt a very noticable difference and was worth every penny. Granted as soon as I received the JB+ I cranked that bad boy up to 90%...
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Hows that? I had switched from the SSTT to the JB+ and felt a very noticable difference and was worth every penny. Granted as soon as I received the JB+ I cranked that bad boy up to 90%...
From the dynos that I saw, the JB+'s higher boost levels made practically no difference on the octane available in my area. Plus, you're more likely to throw codes at higher boost levels. I don't care about adjustability, I just wanted some decent power - if I wanted more power, I would have gone with a JB3 or Procede. I just didn't see the value in paying extra for a JB+, I'm sure it's great at all - just no benefits over an SSTT for my situation
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From the dynos that I saw, the JB+'s higher boost levels made practically no difference on the octane available in my area. Plus, you're more likely to throw codes at higher boost levels. I don't care about adjustability, I just wanted some decent power - if I wanted more power, I would have gone with a JB3 or Procede. I just didn't see the value in paying extra for a JB+, I'm sure it's great at all - just no benefits over an SSTT for my situation
You do have some points but make sure you know you have not thrown any codes. SSTT's are and have thrown codes as well as the JB+. The proof is posted in this link... Better safe than sorry.
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=254979&page=2
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