Official JB3 1.4 Beta Preview Thread

Kelvin1000 · 08-16-2009, 03:22 PM

Well guys, as you know I have tried a bunch of tunes including Dinan Stage, JB3 1.2, Procede 3 Rev 2 Canbus, and finally back to JB3 1.3.

I finally settled with JB3 1.3 not because of price, features, customer service or any other perk. My decision was based solely on performance. You can see my comparison reviews and my most recent dynos with JB3 1.3 here:

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showth...t=jb3+pre+post

I thought I was more or less done with the software side of the equation and I added RR Downpipes and a Helix FMIC. Both made the JB3 1.3 even better and I thought I could not be happier.

Until now...

Since I have a BT tool and what I consider to be a well calibrated butt dyno, I decided to lend a helping hand in the testing of the Beta 1.4 and after a few weeks of testing (and making Terry's life impossible) I believe that Terry has himself a winner.

JB3 1.4 has been improved significantly in two ways: First, it is a lot smoother than the previous incarnations. The new lagfix and boost targeting logic does an outstanding job in providing a very smooth, instant, linear and controllable power curve at any range in the RPM band. It is a lot easier to live with all the power.

Which brings me to point number two: POWER:

I don't know how he is doing it, but Terry has created a tune that gives you instant power down low and massive torque in the middle while actually adding more of the BRUTAL Top End power that Juicebox is known for. It just keeps the power throughtout the entire power band and rockets to the redline.

I can honestly say that even on Terrible 90 degree weather, the car feels like the power from our little snails never drops off. This must be the feeling we will get once people actually start upgrading these little Turbos. I had just sort of come to accept that these engines make their top power early in the RPM range and felt that the only way to mitigate this would be by upgrading to bigger Turbos. However, the JB3 1.4 makes you forget about these shortcomings and leads you to believe that you actually have a high revving V8 under the hood because of its torque, smoothness and amazing Top End. It is that good.

Congratulations to Terry and the BMS team. I hope they release this version to the public very soon as it is a darn shame that only some of us get to enjoy it. If you have a burner, go get this version right now and post your comments here.

Donald-335i · 08-16-2009, 03:26 PM

nice review bro,

bulldog_yyc · 08-16-2009, 03:34 PM

good review - looking forward to 1.4 final

Louie A · 08-16-2009, 03:53 PM

Great Review -- Ordered a Chip Burner and will be loading V1.4 this week. Looking forward to comparing notes.

NRG · 08-16-2009, 04:57 PM

Nice review! We've come a long way with testing 1.4 and it's def. where it should be right now. R6 plain rocks. I can attest to Kelvin review by saying the 1.4b performs beautifully on my stock coupe running 91-95oct. in 90F with 90% humidity. The power buildup is super strong all the way from bottom to the top and the new "lagfix" algorithm is twice stronger then before.

jaysonbmw · 08-16-2009, 05:00 PM

I Cant Wait for the chip to come out..

rollyn2night · 08-16-2009, 05:41 PM

nice review...I cant wait until I get the jb3 back in my car considering I have been stock for a few months now. Kinda wondering one thing though, you gained about 44whp from the dp's and IC right. Well I will be getting just the catless dp's pretty soon. How much power do you think it will add(anywhere around 30whp)??

enrita · 08-16-2009, 05:45 PM

just burned my Rev 6, going in tomorrow!

NRG · 08-16-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

just burned my Rev 6, going in tomorrow!

Prepare for a next-big-thing after R2!

5soko · 08-16-2009, 06:12 PM

Nice. Keep up the great testing guys! Im sure 1.4 will make its way into our hands offically soon.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 08-16-2009, 06:17 PM

Great review..

I just took the 1.4 Rev6 on the road course/track this morning and it performed amazingly under heavy load and heat. Not a single limp and smooth power all the way to redline. I am super impressed with 1.4 and think its almost done.

Can't wait to be able to sell it to everybody. I am so impressed with this revision that I have to come up with some kind of promo when its released so we can get the JB3 1.4 into everybody's hands!!!

Some pics of the car at the track (a little of topic)

Mike

Ilma · 08-16-2009, 07:05 PM

Looks like you got new rims and a spoiler?

M6 replicas are my fav.

Nice!

ianthegreat · 08-16-2009, 07:28 PM

Looking forward to testing it out :]

Kelvin1000 · 08-17-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollyn2night

nice review...I cant wait until I get the jb3 back in my car considering I have been stock for a few months now. Kinda wondering one thing though, you gained about 44whp from the dp's and IC right. Well I will be getting just the catless dp's pretty soon. How much power do you think it will add(anywhere around 30whp)??

You really need both but I always ran my car on map 7 and together they added over 40whp. I am guessing 25-30 for just downpipes though keeping that power run after run will be more difficult without the FMIC.

Bomis · 08-17-2009, 06:00 AM

Map 7 on rev2 rocks....can't wait to burn rev6...

enrita · 08-17-2009, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomis

Map 7 on rev2 rocks....can't wait to burn rev6...

already burned it for you man

Bomis · 08-17-2009, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

already burned it for you man

Thanks man, you're the best!! And veryyy soon i will recive my helix ic and wavetrac diff...wrooooooooooooooooooom!

Soni · 08-17-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Great review..

I just took the 1.4 Rev6 on the road course/track this morning and it performed amazingly under heavy load and heat. Not a single limp and smooth power all the way to redline. I am super impressed with 1.4 and think its almost done.

Can't wait to be able to sell it to everybody. I am so impressed with this revision that I have to come up with some kind of promo when its released so we can get the JB3 1.4 into everybody's hands!!!

Some pics of the car at the track (a little of topic)

Mike

I should have give it a try yesterday

turbologist · 08-17-2009, 01:53 PM

Any ETA on when the final 1.4rev will be released?

jaza45 · 08-17-2009, 02:15 PM

This is torture, I want a Juicebox so bad, but I need Terry to come out with a speed de-limiter, cuz Im stuck at 140mph and I want to use all that power...

645Nm · 08-17-2009, 02:21 PM

I have been going nuts for weeks now with the 1.4 beta maps.

1.3 was okay but did not have the grunt of the procede or AA maps.
BUT 1.4 is spot on in delivering the power right on the money. I was not into the explanation that the 1.3 maps were smooth and all nice...i was looking for at least ONE of the maps to give the kind of raw power you get with the flashes. But let me hasten to say that 1.3 especially map 8 gave me huge power on the dyno; but i did not FEEL it on the street.

Look,
1.4 is simply crazy and addictive. all the new maps in fact. Maps 4 & 6 are just fun and great for daily driving. Ass kicking maps are from 8 upwards.

See the revs run wild on map 7...nice stuff.

racerfan · 08-17-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Great review..

I just took the 1.4 Rev6 on the road course/track this morning and it performed amazingly under heavy load and heat. Not a single limp and smooth power all the way to redline. I am super impressed with 1.4 and think its almost done.

Can't wait to be able to sell it to everybody. I am so impressed with this revision that I have to come up with some kind of promo when its released so we can get the JB3 1.4 into everybody's hands!!!

Some pics of the car at the track (a little of topic)

Mike

Those wheels look like 20's on your ride. looking good.

08-16-2009, 03:22 PM	#1
Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	Official JB3 1.4 Beta Preview Thread Well guys, as you know I have tried a bunch of tunes including Dinan Stage, JB3 1.2, Procede 3 Rev 2 Canbus, and finally back to JB3 1.3. I finally settled with JB3 1.3 not because of price, features, customer service or any other perk. My decision was based solely on performance. You can see my comparison reviews and my most recent dynos with JB3 1.3 here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showth...t=jb3+pre+post I thought I was more or less done with the software side of the equation and I added RR Downpipes and a Helix FMIC. Both made the JB3 1.3 even better and I thought I could not be happier. Until now... Since I have a BT tool and what I consider to be a well calibrated butt dyno, I decided to lend a helping hand in the testing of the Beta 1.4 and after a few weeks of testing (and making Terry's life impossible) I believe that Terry has himself a winner. JB3 1.4 has been improved significantly in two ways: First, it is a lot smoother than the previous incarnations. The new lagfix and boost targeting logic does an outstanding job in providing a very smooth, instant, linear and controllable power curve at any range in the RPM band. It is a lot easier to live with all the power. Which brings me to point number two: POWER: I don't know how he is doing it, but Terry has created a tune that gives you instant power down low and massive torque in the middle while actually adding more of the BRUTAL Top End power that Juicebox is known for. It just keeps the power throughtout the entire power band and rockets to the redline. I can honestly say that even on Terrible 90 degree weather, the car feels like the power from our little snails never drops off. This must be the feeling we will get once people actually start upgrading these little Turbos. I had just sort of come to accept that these engines make their top power early in the RPM range and felt that the only way to mitigate this would be by upgrading to bigger Turbos. However, the JB3 1.4 makes you forget about these shortcomings and leads you to believe that you actually have a high revving V8 under the hood because of its torque, smoothness and amazing Top End. It is that good. Congratulations to Terry and the BMS team. I hope they release this version to the public very soon as it is a darn shame that only some of us get to enjoy it. If you have a burner, go get this version right now and post your comments here.
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NRG Lieutenant Colonel 36 Rep 1,658 Posts Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC iTrader: (5)	Nice review! We've come a long way with testing 1.4 and it's def. where it should be right now. R6 plain rocks. I can attest to Kelvin review by saying the 1.4b performs beautifully on my stock coupe running 91-95oct. in 90F with 90% humidity. The power buildup is super strong all the way from bottom to the top and the new "lagfix" algorithm is twice stronger then before. __________________ Retired: 2005 N52 E90 330i Sport 6AT Retired: 2007 N54 E92 335i Sport 6AT Current: 2012 M57 E70 X5 xDrive35D
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rollyn2night Lieutenant 12 Rep 428 Posts Drives: 07 E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NJ/NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 07 e92 335i [0.00]	nice review...I cant wait until I get the jb3 back in my car considering I have been stock for a few months now. Kinda wondering one thing though, you gained about 44whp from the dp's and IC right. Well I will be getting just the catless dp's pretty soon. How much power do you think it will add(anywhere around 30whp)??
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5soko Brigadier General 338 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	Nice. Keep up the great testing guys! Im sure 1.4 will make its way into our hands offically soon.
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4927 Rep 116,037 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	Great review.. I just took the 1.4 Rev6 on the road course/track this morning and it performed amazingly under heavy load and heat. Not a single limp and smooth power all the way to redline. I am super impressed with 1.4 and think its almost done. Can't wait to be able to sell it to everybody. I am so impressed with this revision that I have to come up with some kind of promo when its released so we can get the JB3 1.4 into everybody's hands!!! Some pics of the car at the track (a little of topic) Mike Attached Images
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Ilma Colonel 185 Rep 2,842 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mississauga iTrader: (0)	Looks like you got new rims and a spoiler? M6 replicas are my fav. Nice!
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Bomis Captain 63 Rep 989 Posts Drives: BMW E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden iTrader: (1)	Map 7 on rev2 rocks....can't wait to burn rev6... __________________ EURO E92 M3 2008 6MT Interlagos ///*Fully Loaded!* Evolve-R ECU Flash/Gintani Sport Exhaust/MS Stg2 Intake Kit/H&R Springs/MS 18/15 mm spacers/Bmw Perf. Grills/Gloss Black side gills/LCI Tails/LUX V3's/RD license plate leds
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jaza45 Banned 61 Rep 1,121 Posts Drives: 2008 LSB E90 335I Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MIAMI iTrader: (14)	This is torture, I want a Juicebox so bad, but I need Terry to come out with a speed de-limiter, cuz Im stuck at 140mph and I want to use all that power...
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645Nm only in it for the torque - awuleth'umshini wami 50 Rep 425 Posts Drives: sapphire black 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nomad iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i sedan [0.00] 2005 120D [0.00] 2007 335i sedan [0.00]	I have been going nuts for weeks now with the 1.4 beta maps. 1.3 was okay but did not have the grunt of the procede or AA maps. BUT 1.4 is spot on in delivering the power right on the money. I was not into the explanation that the 1.3 maps were smooth and all nice...i was looking for at least ONE of the maps to give the kind of raw power you get with the flashes. But let me hasten to say that 1.3 especially map 8 gave me huge power on the dyno; but i did not FEEL it on the street. Look, 1.4 is simply crazy and addictive. all the new maps in fact. Maps 4 & 6 are just fun and great for daily driving. Ass kicking maps are from 8 upwards. See the revs run wild on map 7...nice stuff. __________________
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